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Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 12:17:01 AM   
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Trump wiretap claims: White House softens stance on unproven tweets

Unsubstantiated claims by US President Donald Trump that he was wiretapped by Barack Obama were not meant literally, the White House press secretary says.

Sean Spicer said Mr Trump had broadly meant "surveillance and other activities" when he made the allegation in a tweet earlier this month.

He also suggested the president was not accusing his predecessor specifically

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39262158

In his tweet Mr Trump said: "Just found out that Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower just before the victory."

He added: "Is it legal for a sitting President to be 'wire tapping' a race for president?"
Despite repeated requests, the White House has not given any evidence for the claim.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 2:35:52 AM   
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There seems now to be a definite pattern of this emerging from the white house.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 5:18:47 AM   
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Sewer rat barbie was my favourite flub of the day, altho spicey spice was a close second with his "air ""quotes" (yes that WAS intentional)



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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 6:01:42 AM   
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Spicey Spice? Surely you mean Spicey Potatohead.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 6:12:23 AM   
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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 6:37:24 AM   
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rumps just deflecting from the fact that it hasn't been 100 days yet and he's already proven he was all the leadership skills of a garden slug....

he's proven he hadn't read any of the healthcare plan he said he'd repeal on day one (NOT!) and dumb as boss-ho-x on the so-called better replacement's ineffectiveness.....hell, so far it only replaces "affordable" with "American" and 20+million people on or off health care.  

he's appointed people to positions only to have them not wanna get on his crazy train of fools,....really now,...if ur going to appoint someone don't u bother to check FIRST if their even interested in the job????  Evidently not president rump.

so now.....the dumber-than-bush president with the bad comb-over, has gotten so frustrated with his own fuckups he has dragged his predecessor into his bullshit to try to get his group of just as dumb hicks  to not pay attention to how fucked up the next 6 years are going to be.....geez...his press mouthpiece cant do anything but lie further for him.....that's fucked up too.


about the only wiretap that should of happened is one where somebody used jumper cables to shock the GOP's brain back to life.....IF it ever was to start with....

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 8:31:07 AM   
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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 10:49:16 AM   
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FR

Seen on social media: "They spy on you through your microwaves because they know it's the one place you can't put tin foil."

Thanks DC, that's revealing and so comforting. Because that also means the microwave oven is a 'conspiracy free' zone because you simply cannot use tin foil.

Yet another demonstration of how technology makes life so simple.

Oh wait, that means they can't be using my microwave to spy on me and yes, because there is...no tin foil.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 10:54:38 AM   
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FR

Seen on social media: "They spy on you through your microwaves because they know it's the one place you can't put tin foil."



This would be funny except that people's TVs are spying on them.

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/02/07/vizio-caught-spying-on-customers-through-their-tvs/

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The popular TV maker Vizio began in 2014 to incorporate software into its TV sets to collect information about our viewing habits on a second-by-second basis. Then, working with a data analytics company, they were able to associate that data with very detailed and specific personal information of the viewers. Yes, Vizio sold you a TV set and turned around and spied on you as a thank you for your business!
Vizio installed the software on 11 million TV sets without ever asking for permission or informing their owners that they were collecting the data. After a lawsuit was filed by the FTC and the state of New Jersey, Vizio settled and paid a fine of $2.2 million.



And in Germany, some people are destroying dolls.

https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2017/02/20/these-dolls-were-classified-as-hidden-espionage-devices-in-one-country/


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Since My Friend Cayla has the potential to steal the information of the children who play with it, she is a no-no in Germany. The doll has been removed from the market by the Federal Network Agency, and parents who have already purchased Cayla are actually expected to destroy her. Seem a little extreme? Maybe not when it comes to small children.


Consumerist explains how the toy operates:

They connect via Bluetooth to a mobile phone app, usually belonging to a parent, and then from there access the internet in order to interact with kids and answer their questions. To accomplish that feat, the apps record and collect conversations between the toys and the kids, and use speech-to-text protocols to turn kids’ questions into searchable queries.

When users first set up the app for their toy, they may be sharing data you don’t want shared. Cayla in particular asks for multiple pieces of personal information — the child’s name, their parents’ names, their school name, their hometown, among other questions — so it can converse more naturally. The app also allows for location setting, and both the Cayla and i-Que apps collect users’ IP addresses.

If that doesn't creep you out, maybe this will: the information is then transmitted to the servers at the headquarters of Nuance Communications, the company that provides Cayla with her voice-parsing services.


I am not so sure about the whole "internet of things."

I suppose that the microwave MIGHT be spying on you if it is connected to the internet.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 11:04:39 AM   
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Unsubstantiated claims by US President Donald Trump that he was wiretapped by Barack Obama were not meant literally, the White House press secretary says.

Sean Spicer said Mr Trump had broadly meant "surveillance and other activities" when he made the allegation in a tweet earlier this month.

He also suggested the president was not accusing his predecessor specifically

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 4:46:14 PM   
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I saw this on o'reilly last night:

(oh no comrades, fox news!)

"Former Dem Rep Comes to Trump's Defense on Wiretap Claim: Obama Admin Did The Same Thing to Me"

(on no comrades, townhall!)

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Former Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich said Monday that people shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss President Trump’s claim of being wiretapped. The reason? It happened to him.

In an interview with Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly on Monday, Kucinich recalled how a phone call from a foreign leader to his congressional office was tapped in 2011—a fact he learned of after leaving office.

"I had a resolution in the House to try to stop the war and [Saif el-Islam Qaddafi, son of Libya’s former President Moammar Qaddafi and a high-ranking official in the country’s government] called me to talk about it," Kucinich said.

"I cleared the discussion with House attorneys and a member of Congress is not supposed to be listened to by the executive branch," he added. "The Director of National Intelligence under President Obama was tracking my resolution and I didn't find out until two years after I had left Congress."

Kucinich had learned of the secret recording in 2015 when reporters from the Washington Times approached him about it, wanting confirmation that it was indeed him on the tape.

“At the time I was leading efforts in the House to challenge the Obama administration’s war against Libya. The Qaddafi government reached out to me because its appeals to the White House and the State Department to forestall the escalating aggression had gone unanswered,” Kucinich wrote in column on FoxNews.com.

He also said he doesn’t know if his call with the Libyan official was the only one recorded during his time in office.

“I have never gone public with this story, but when I saw the derision with which President Trump’s claims were greeted—and notwithstanding our political differences—I felt I should share my experience,” he wrote.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2017/03/14/former-dem-rep-comes-to-trumps-defense-on-wiretap-claim-obama-admin-did-the-same-thing-to-me-n2298681


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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 5:13:04 PM   
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Loved kellyannes suggestion that Obama had bugged the microwaves.


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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 5:51:36 PM   
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Loved kellyannes suggestion that Obama had bugged the microwaves.




Had Bush been president when the latest CIA scandal broke your faux red-faced outrage would have been the stuff of faux legends

But the affirmative action president was in charge so it's "nothing to see here" as always

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/14/2017 7:25:56 PM   
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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 2:42:36 AM   
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Im sure there is a more high-tech term for it now as we dont use wires anymnore.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 4:06:29 AM   
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Wow, you really are 100% on board with this new Putin alliance, I see.

Well that being the case, we might as well get the cultural acclimation ball rolling here, for you and all the others in our new "'Friends of Vladimir Club."

I've been a big fan of Prokofiev and Shostakovitch for years, but that's probably a bit rich for newcomers (and none of it cartoonishly simple enough for the simpletons at hand, here), so we'll start out with something that all the new 'komrade's kids' can clap their hands to. Just please promise not to try singing, thank you.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 6:39:37 AM   
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(oh no comrades, !)

(on no comrades, !)


Wow, you really are 100% on board with this new Putin alliance, I see.

Well that being the case, we might as well get the cultural acclimation ball rolling here, for you and all the others in our new "'Friends of Vladimir Club."

I've been a big fan of Prokofiev and Shostakovitch for years, but that's probably a bit rich for newcomers (and none of it cartoonishly simple enough for the simpletons at hand, here), so we'll start out with something that all the new 'komrade's kids' can clap their hands to. Just please promise not to try singing, thank you.

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Maybe they could start off with some Mussorgsky? They can build up to actual orchestral recordings by listening to the ELP version of Pictures At An Exhibition...

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 6:42:05 AM   
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Had Bush been president when the latest CIA scandal broke your faux red-faced outrage would have been the stuff of faux legends

But the affirmative action president was in charge so it's "nothing to see here" as always
Have kind of a short memory, do you? Have you forgotten? Bush was wiretapping everyone.
;-)

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 6:56:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Had Bush been president when the latest CIA scandal broke your faux red-faced outrage would have been the stuff of faux legends

But the affirmative action president was in charge so it's "nothing to see here" as always
Have kind of a short memory, do you? Have you forgotten? Bush was wiretapping everyone.
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That was the alt left hysteria at the time, "Bushitler" blah blah blah

Everyone is Hitler... Hitlers everywhere. We get it

You need to learn how to read for comprehension though. Reread what I wrote, pay careful attention to the "when the latest CIA scandal broke" part this time



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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 8:12:13 AM   
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I've been a big fan of Prokofiev and Shostakovitch for years, but that's probably a bit rich for newcomers (and none of it cartoonishly simple enough for the simpletons at hand, here), so we'll start out with something that all the new 'komrade's kids' can clap their hands to. Just please promise not to try singing, thank you.

Troika



Maybe they could start off with some Mussorgsky? They can build up to actual orchestral recordings by listening to the ELP version of Pictures At An Exhibition...


You know what's funny?

I'd heard a couple of items written for orchestra transcribed for and played on piano, on the classical music station. I didn't think much of the efforts. "Why did they do that?" etc. So any case I was well familiar with the orchestrated versions of Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Infanta an Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition, and I thought those were the original forms. So then I hear the piano versions later and I say "oh, what idiot did that?"

The original composers, as it turns out. Of course almost all classical music and a decent bit of pop music are composed on the keyboard first, then orchestrated or arranged else wise. But I had it in my head that the two I named above started public life as orchestrated pieces, since I'd heard them that way at least five years before I came to know the actual original versions, though I didn't know that latter point upon first hearing. As it turns out, both pieces were actually written for piano and only got orchestrated some years later.

Doh! oops!, etc. Stupid judgemental me. It's okay, I got over it.

No question the orchestrated versions are better (Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky being the one we hear most often), but once I got my head on straight about it, hearing one person attack the entire Exhibition thing on solo piano is pretty impressive too.

I got to hear Vladimir Ashkenazy conducting The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra with his own orchestration of Exhibition, and I was paid to be there.

Too bad my former livelihood caused almost perpetual insomnia, but that was definitely one of the high points.

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