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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 10:22:27 AM   
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Thank you, Aylee . . . your words are worth reposting. Eric (I can't breathe) Garner was attacked by five or six cops in Staten Island.




Right. Killed by agents of big government enforcing welfare state tax code

You mean the Mil. Indust, Comp. and corporate welfare and tax credit tax code...I agree.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 10:27:24 AM   
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Your thoughts?



1. This is happening in cities and towns all over. I cannot remember the name of the guy that ended up dead, but he was selling single cigarettes. Well, NY City has extremely high taxes on packs of cigarettes (as revenue enhancement), so people go a state over, purchase lower taxed cigarettes and sell them as singles. This irritates NY City because they are losing tax revenue. So they fine people on top for selling and buying single cigarettes. Policies are made which (by design possibly) create a black market. Then they can go after the small timers on the black market.

In the cases being discussed in the article, fines are raised to unpayable levels. People do not pay them. Pay fail to go to court. More fines and fees are added. Warrants are issued. More people end up in jail which needs more money to operate. Fines are raised to provide this money. Now, why can't community service be done to pay off fines for those who cannot afford them?

2. I really think that you should add Civil Asset Forfeiture as a form of this corruption. Unless tired by a jury of your peers and found guilty, assets should not be taken from you. I do understand confiscating drug money or whatever. But it should go into "evidence" and if no charges are filed or no guilty verdict, it needs to be returned. The same with property like cars and buildings.

Thank you, Aylee . . . your words are worth reposting. Eric (I can't breathe) Garner was attacked by five or six cops in Staten Island.I don't see how you



And there was no conviction because the DA grossly overcharged.

I don't see how you can possibly know the reason; the strangler was cleared by secret grand jury proceedings which resulted in "no bill." Even "cleared"is not a proper term. The city awarded the widow $2.4M in a settlement. That says a lot about not wanting to air the dirty linen in public.

Selling "loosies" should not carry a death penalty. You accept that, right?


Selling loosies should not be a crime. They went for murder. there was misconduct on the part of the first officer, but murder was ridiculous.

"It was clearly voluntary manslaughter" Geo. Will Wash. Post. They had to know they will killing him and...they killed him.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 10:48:21 AM   
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Ferguson was typical of a municipality run by decades of democratic party policy. The tax base moves away from the wonky social government policies. Seeing funds evaporate; the government goes for alternative funding in a manner that suggests a hostile occupation. The infrastructure is ignored in favor of more and more politician aggrandizing capitol projects.

The path to failed cities is paved in good liberal intentions.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 11:42:07 AM   
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Thank you, Aylee . . . your words are worth reposting. Eric (I can't breathe) Garner was attacked by five or six cops in Staten Island.




Right. Killed by agents of big government enforcing welfare state tax code

You mean the Mil. Indust, Comp. and corporate welfare and tax credit tax code...I agree.


Those cops were working for Nanny Bloomberg

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 11:49:07 AM   
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Ferguson was typical of a municipality run by decades of democratic party policy. The tax base moves away from the wonky social government policies. Seeing funds evaporate; the government goes for alternative funding in a manner that suggests a hostile occupation. The infrastructure is ignored in favor of more and more politician aggrandizing capitol projects.

The path to failed cities is paved in good liberal intentions.

I hear what you are saying and I have heard it before. I respect that you have an opinion but it appears to be a sweeping generality just maybe confusing cause and effect. You might inquire for example as to what caused the migration of blacks into what was an affluent white suburb. Here is an article that might give you some further insight.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 11:51:40 AM   
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Thank you, Aylee . . . your words are worth reposting. Eric (I can't breathe) Garner was attacked by five or six cops in Staten Island.




Right. Killed by agents of big government enforcing welfare state tax code

You mean the Mil. Indust, Comp. and corporate welfare and tax credit tax code...I agree.


Those cops were working for Nanny Bloomberg

Oh, how confused they were. . . they were hired to protect the citizens. And we all know the danger of selling loosies in Staten Island.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 11:54:50 AM   
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Selling "looselies" should not carry a death penalty. You accept that, right?



No extremist "liberal" alt left tax laws should be enforced, ever. If people want to smoke, let them smoke. Try to be liberals, rather than leftists

New York State has a Supreme Court to judge the fairness of a tax. I thought the Right believed in the Rule of Law.

What is a "liberal?" What is a "leftist?"




Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Make up your fucking mind, your trolling is tiresome

Sayeth the "pot"

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

Right

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 1:31:30 PM   
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They don't need crap from white people... all they would get from me is directions to their polling place. They are victims of no one but themselves. Through their vote they can take control of their community. They just need to do it.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 2:12:48 PM   
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They don't need crap from white people... all they would get from me is directions to their polling place. They are victims of no one but themselves. Through their vote they can take control of their community. They just need to do it.

The Police Chief resigned. A recall petition on the Mayor failed. Bunch of names were disqualified. Hopefully, the next election will decide. Apparently, the Federal Justice Dept report had an effect. I am not so sure the mayor is as important as the police chief. Thanks, Butch.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 3:19:57 PM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

K.


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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 4:24:45 PM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

K.



"fat beer swilling" is sooooo yesterday.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 4:26:18 PM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

"fat beer swilling" is sooooo yesterday.

Funny how fast things change.

K.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 4:39:46 PM   
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Indeed.

Billy Beer was so long ago, but seems like only yesterday.

Such a fad, and then . . . poof!


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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 8:02:54 PM   
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Indeed.

Billy Beer was so long ago, but seems like only yesterday.

Such a fad, and then . . . poof!

I see the emp[ty cans are on ebay for anywhere from a dollar to about $25.
That is the kind of poof we could all use.





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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 8:11:39 PM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

"fat beer swilling" is sooooo yesterday.

Funny how fast things change.

K.

Well, I took your criticism to heart. Your complaining?

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 8:17:40 PM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

"fat beer swilling" is sooooo yesterday.

Funny how fast things change.

K.
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Well, I took your criticism to heart. Your complaining?


Okay VML, as I've said before, sometimes you are funny. Good one.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 8:19:35 PM   
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VML, it's you that crews up the "quote fonts. How do you do that?

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/14/2017 8:44:39 PM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

"fat beer swilling" is sooooo yesterday.

Funny how fast things change.

Well, I took your criticism to heart. Your complaining?

I'll concede the point, Vincent. That's a fair call.

K.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/15/2017 6:31:12 AM   
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Fine, have it your way. Tackle that fat motherfucker for making a buck

Oh, and being fat compounds his guilt????

You mean it only works for "fat beer swilling" gun owners?

"fat beer swilling" is sooooo yesterday.

Funny how fast things change.

Well, I took your criticism to heart. Your complaining?

I'll concede the point, Vincent. That's a fair call.

K.


Thank you, K.

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RE: The Rule of Law - 3/15/2017 7:04:24 AM   
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VML, it's you that crews up the "quote fonts. How do you do that?


Perhaps with help from his screw up crew?

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