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Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

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The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful.
The world has never been more interconnected with such speed of communications. The UN provides a place to pause and air grievances.
It is helpful to remember that any UN action can be stopped by the vote of only one of five major contributor nations. However, here is a list of forty-eight UN accomplishments published in 2012.
[:)]

Please cite credible proof that the UN has prevented a "third major power war."

What sort of credible proof would you require to prove a negative?
Twenty years elapsed between WW1 and WW2. Seventy-two years have passed since the last major powers war. Pretty good so far, hey?
So, can you prove that the forum of the United Nations was not instrumental in maintaining the peace?

LMAO! In other words, no, you can't support your assertion with any proof.

Thanks, Vincent.

FFS, it could almost be said that the increase in global CO2 that started around that time prevented a third world war.

The UN intervention in Korea in 1950 stopped a major powers war. How did it not?

Did I miss the mission statement of the increase in global CO2 emission? Was that a coordinated activity intent on stopping WW3? Is there even a scintilla of causal relationship between greenhyouse gas emission and World War?

The proof is in the pudding. There has been no major powers war since the UN was formed.

greenhouse gases . . . [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

Well that proves it. There's been no alien invasion from outer space either. So, good on the UN [sm=celebrating-smileys.gif]

You used to contribute meaningful comments to our discussions. Not so much now that you are using crayons.

I still contribute meaningful comments. Showing everyone the absurdity of someone else's comment is meaningful. However, in the spirit to which you meant your comment, let me just say that I treat people as they treat me. So, I wonder why your comment of this type is solely directed at me. Perhaps you'll reign in some of your comrades and I can get back to being civil?

The UN was established in the hopes of preventing WW3. That is serious business. Your reference to space invaders was as irrelevant as the previous reference to CO2. Would have been fine if we were at a Comicon. Granted that sometimes it seems that we are.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

I think we are having a hard enough time these days trying to promote democracy, reduce poverty and educate our own these days. America First.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

I think we are having a hard enough time these days trying to promote democracy, reduce poverty and educate our own these days. America First.

The rest of the world can pay their share now. We are 20 trillion in debt, well beyond broke

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Actually, no. Your statement was that since there has been no WWIII obviously the UN was working. I pointed out the falicy of that argument with my space invader comments. In my opinion, MAD has been much more instrumental in no WWIII than has been the corrupt snake pit of the UN. It's a perfectly reasonable response to you.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

I think we are having a hard enough time these days trying to promote democracy, reduce poverty and educate our own these days. America First.

The rest of the world can pay their share now. We are 20 trillion in debt, well beyond broke

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

You personally scream the loudest about the how much you despise the United States spreading democracy though

An hilarious contradiction,

And something that makes your support of the US remaining a the main contributor to the UN very suspect

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

The UN still exists so that a select few can make money through bribes and kick backs. Let's all remember Sadam's oil for money scam with the UN. The last thing the UN advocates is democracy and any money that ends up in education has been skimmed first by members of the UN and then the despots they are in league with around the world.

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Up to and including deposing democratically elected leaders and replacing them with theocrats, military dictators or Royal families who think it's still the fourteenth century.

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Actually, no. Your statement was that since there has been no WWIII obviously the UN was working. I pointed out the falicy of that argument with my space invader comments. In my opinion, MAD has been much more instrumental in no WWIII than has been the corrupt snake pit of the UN. It's a perfectly reasonable response to you.

I gave a nod to nuclear power as well as the UN by writing this:

"The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful."

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."
http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

It is the stated goal of the United States to promote democracy in the world. The reduction of poverty and the expansion of education are means to that end. So, you are wrong, tamaka.

I think we are having a hard enough time these days trying to promote democracy, reduce poverty and educate our own these days. America First.

The rest of the world can pay their share now. We are 20 trillion in debt, well beyond broke

Yep. And if private citizens want to donate to related charities, they can. I am sure Vincent donates 50% of his income to charities because he cares sooooooooo much. Put up or shut up. (Actually, do both).

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Actually, no. Your statement was that since there has been no WWIII obviously the UN was working. I pointed out the falicy of that argument with my space invader comments. In my opinion, MAD has been much more instrumental in no WWIII than has been the corrupt snake pit of the UN. It's a perfectly reasonable response to you.

I gave a nod to nuclear power as well as the UN by writing this:

"The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful."

Okay, so you accept MAD. But I see nothing the UN does, unless the U.S. Is doing it while wearing blue helmets, that means anything. It's entirely corrupt.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Actually, no. Your statement was that since there has been no WWIII obviously the UN was working. I pointed out the falicy of that argument with my space invader comments. In my opinion, MAD has been much more instrumental in no WWIII than has been the corrupt snake pit of the UN. It's a perfectly reasonable response to you.

I gave a nod to nuclear power as well as the UN by writing this:

"The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful."

Okay, so you accept MAD. But I see nothing the UN does, unless the U.S. Is doing it while wearing blue helmets, that means anything. It's entirely corrupt.

What governing body in this world made of human beasties is not corrupt? I never said purity was a goal either.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Actually, no. Your statement was that since there has been no WWIII obviously the UN was working. I pointed out the falicy of that argument with my space invader comments. In my opinion, MAD has been much more instrumental in no WWIII than has been the corrupt snake pit of the UN. It's a perfectly reasonable response to you.

I gave a nod to nuclear power as well as the UN by writing this:

"The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful."

Okay, so you accept MAD. But I see nothing the UN does, unless the U.S. Is doing it while wearing blue helmets, that means anything. It's entirely corrupt.

What governing body in this world made of human beasties is not corrupt? I never said purity was a goal either.

Well, then, as I see it we agree on several things. What we wouldn't agree upon, I'd guess, as a leftie ( said affectionately) that you believe in giving more power and control to that, which ever, corrupt, impure government entity. While, my personal inclination is to starve all/any governmental entity of both power and money. I don't have a problem at all with keeping the UN functioning as a puppet show displaying corruption and greed. I'd just prefer it somewhere else. Perhaps the Hagg with the world court, another little farse. We can send diplomats there rather than have the corruption here. Or, we can just leave them alone.