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Nnanji -> RE: Reports finds immigrants commit less crime than US-born citizens (3/20/2017 12:11:40 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
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Sadly, it hasnt drifted well into some americans minds, such as those trump fans attacking lesbians, hindus, even attacking and killing them.
one story here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/19/a-california-waiter-refused-to-serve-4-latina-women-until-he-saw-proof-of-residency/?utm_term=.6394eb4878d4
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/hate_in_america_a_list_of_racism_bigotry_and_abuse_since_the_election.html
Im posting a left wing sight but the links are real
I have looked into the first story (because a friend posted it on facebook) and it seems that the restaurant had/has a discount given to the residents of Huntington Beach. So the waiter was asking for proof that they qualified for the discount.
As far as the second story you linked to, the SPLC promotes hate, so I have a hard time taking them seriously. Also, someone using a "naughty term" on facebook or twitter does not rise to the level of crime. Yep, they may be a douchebag, but that is not a crime.
so you are ignoring violence because of the SPLC
not surprised
So mental patient sock, you ignore Fox News, Breightbart and any number of news sites that don't spout kool aid. Tell me what is reasonable about you?
Im no ones sock, sock.
no I gave the Cato institute in the original post, which has nothing to do with the left.
Once again you jump in asscheeeks flapping before you have read the topic.
here, so you dont have to hunt it down, it is the OP
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Reports find that immigrants commit less crime than US-born citizens
Immigrants commit crimes and are incarcerated at a much lower rate than U.S. citizens, according to two separate studies released this week.
A study by The Sentencing Project, a criminal justice research and advocacy group, found that "foreign-born residents of the United States commit crime less often than native-born citizens."
Another study, by the libertarian Cato Institute, compares incarceration rates by migratory status, ethnicity and gender.
"All immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than natives relative to their shares of the population," the Cato study reads.
On the campaign trail and as president, Donald Trump has portrayed illegal immigration as a dual risk: an economic threat and a source of increased crime.
Under President Trump's 2018 budget request, the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) budget would grow by $3 billion to fund his proposed border wall and executive orders on immigration.
When he launched his presidential bid, Trump said that illegal immigrants “are bringing crime.” And in speeches, he frequently mentions individuals whose loved ones have been killed by illegal immigrants.
"It's all enforcement-only, following the rhetoric of Trump that he used in the campaign and continues to use, making immigrants at fault for everything, from crime to the economy," said Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.).
But the two studies don’t point to immigrants posing more of a threat of crime than citizens born in the U.S.
Among people aged 18-54, 1.53 percent of natives are incarcerated, as are 0.85 percent of undocumented immigrants and 0.47 percent of documented immigrants, according to the Cato study of comparative incarceration rates.
The Cato study found that there are about 2 million U.S-born citizens, 123,000 undocumented immigrants and 64,000 documented foreign citizens in U.S. jails.
If natural-born citizens were incarcerated at the same rate as undocumented immigrants, "about 893,000 fewer natives would be incarcerated," read the study. Similarly, if native citizens were incarcerated at the same rate as documented immigrants, 1.4 million fewer would be in prison.
The Sentencing Project study even goes so far as to suggest that increased immigration "may have contributed to the historic drop in crime rates" since 1990.
While the study is "not definitive in proving causation," it links crime trends — 730 violent crimes per 100,000 citizens in 1990 compared to 362 per 100,000 in 2014 — and immigration trends in the same period. According to the study, there were 3.5 million undocumented immigrants in the country in 1990, and 11.1 million in 2014.
The reports can be found here
https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/immigration_brief-1.pdf
http://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Immigration-and-Public-Safety.pdf
try that again?
Its not my problem Aylee didnt use the whole quote.
It is your problem that I quoted the Cato institute and you shat all over yourslf
Keeping in mind Number 6 below.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/10155/9-things-you-need-know-about-illegal-immigration-aaron-bandler
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1. Federal, state and local governments keep data involving illegal immigration and crime out of the public purview. Fox News reported in 2015 that a source from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said "that comprehensive statistics on illegal immigrant crime are not available from the federal government, and suggested contacting county, state and federal jail and prison systems individually to compose a tally, a process that would encompass thousands of local departments."
Former Department of Justice attorney J. Christian Adams also told Fox News that some states do readily track illegal immigration and crime, but they withhold the specific numbers from the public out of fear of backlash from the federal government or for political purposes.
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2. Available evidence suggests that illegals are more likely to commit crimes than the rest of the population. Fox News sorted through myriad "local, state and federal statistics" and found that "illegal immigrants are three times as likely to be convicted of murder as members of the general population and account for far more crimes than their 3.5-percent share of the U.S. population would suggest."
The percentage of illegals committing the number of crimes are as follows, according to Fox News:
13.6 percent of those sentenced for all committed crimes in the country
12 percent of murder sentences
16 percent of trafficking sentences
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4. Illegal immigrants accounted for nearly 75 percent of federal drug sentences in 2014. This is according to the United States Sentencing Commission, which also found that illegals were involved in nearly 17 percent of drug-trafficking sentences and over 33 percent of federal sentences overall.
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. A disproportionate amount of illegals are in state prisons. Peter Kirsanow, a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and a lawyer, reviewed statistics from the Government Accountability Office and Pew Research Center and compared the number of illegals and non-illegals imprisoned for murder-related offenses in a 2015 National Review piece. Some of his findings:
There were 68.57 illegal aliens imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in Arizona, compared to 54.06 citizens and legal noncitizens imprisoned for every 100,000 citizens and legal noncitizens.
There were 97.2 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in California, compared to 74.1 citizens and legal noncitizens imprisoned per 100,000 citizen and legal noncitizens.
There were 54.85 illegals imprisoned for every 100,00 illegals in Florida, compared to 67.8 legal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 legal immigrants.
There were 168.75 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in New York, compared to 48.12 legal immigrants imprisoned for every 100,000 legal immigrants.
There were 54.54 illegals imprisoned for every 100,000 illegals in Texas, compared to 65.43 legal immigrants .
Kirsanow acknowledged that while comparing murder incarceration rates isn't a perfect measurement, "it’s difficult to contend that illegal aliens are more law-abiding than legal residents — at least when it comes to major crimes." But the more disturbing fact was that "approximately 2,430 illegal aliens are in prison just for homicide-related offenses" in California alone.
"If one assumes that each illegal alien so imprisoned was responsible for just one homicide-related offense, that amounts to about a couple thousand major crimes that, arguably, wouldn’t have occurred but for the actors’ unlawful presence in the United States," Kirsanow notes. "That translates to thousands of American citizens (and others) across the country slaughtered by individuals who shouldn’t have been here in the first place."
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6. Tens of thousands of criminal illegals have been released by ICE and are at large in the country. In 2015, ICE released almost 20,000 illegals that committed 64,000 crimes that involve "12,307 drunken driving convictions, 1,728 cases of assault, 216 kidnappings and more than 200 homicide or manslaughter convictions," according to the Washington Times. It's even worse when one considers the fact that the Obama administration released "86,000 illegal immigrants who have committed over 231,000 crimes in just the past two and a half years," according to Independent Journal Review.
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