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respectmen -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 5:13:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: respectmen


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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Ok well then... i guess it just gives people something to complain about then.



Of course women get some special license to complain about the opposite sex. I find the shameless hypocrisy amazing. The exact people who ridicule me for being a complainer are prime culprits of complaining themselves or they back up other female complainers and condone their complaining.

You just can't fix stupid. These people actually believe that women have some special pass that men don't to fucking whine all they like.


It's more about a person tailoring their interactions to having just the ones the prefer, but take it as you will.

Just like the OP. He had a different idea of how the arrangement should go just because there was sexual contact. It's not terribly unheard of for clients to believe the sessions mean more than for the person being paid. I'm not a pro domme but it's got to be the same phenomenon as some people experience when engaging in casual play. More often than not, it's going to be the bottom who has feelings of attachment when those same feelings aren't reciprocated. How many threads have we seen over the years of "how could he/she have done these things that I enjoyed so much and not feel anything for me?"




Lp, what you quoted from me has nothing to do with what the OP said.the fact of the matter is that many people seem to think men aren't entitled to complain period while women get this special magical pass to complain all they want.




respectmen -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 5:16:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

[image]http://i.imgur.com/Xx6YPjV.jpg[/image]

female privilege?

yes its just another "feminist" meme, but consent is the focus.


People keep throwing around this acussation as some type of weak defense against a male arguing a female centered point of view.

No one in here is implying what you just expreased. I challenge you. Quote anything from me that indicates this. If you can't, it proves my point. It proves that you're a liar.




Lucylastic -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 5:50:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
bit of advice for ya to take tammy


I hadn't considered this possibility before.

I wonder how dear, old, MOOBS is doing?



I think he is here:)
If it walks like a moob, talks like a moob and acts like a moob... its moobs




dudeinblack01 -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 6:52:53 PM)

walked away for dinner, came back to same discussion. clients are clients and deserve what they pay for. No matter how they identify. if someone wants to be used, and can find someone wants to use them, consent given, let yo freak flag fly. I'm a straight male dom and I respect women. I objectify my girls because they like it and giving them what they like is what I enjoy




dudeinblack01 -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 7:04:01 PM)

is bitching at each other all anyone does? Any one proud of their subs? Or their subdom? How do you experience sub space? Do you experience sub space?




tamaka -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 7:13:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dudeinblack01

is bitching at each other all anyone does? Any one proud of their subs? Or their subdom? How do you experience sub space? Do you experience sub space?


I live in subspace when i'm with Master. Even when i am talking to Him on the phone. For me it is kind of like a meditative state... but more complex than that. It's like living in our own world within a bigger world which i am hardly aware of the bigger world around us. Like living simultaneously in another dimension. It's hard to explain.




NoirMetal -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 8:33:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
bit of advice for ya to take tammy


I hadn't considered this possibility before.

I wonder how dear, old, MOOBS is doing?



I think he is here:)
If it walks like a moob, talks like a moob and acts like a moob... its moobs

It's quite tragic to watch an individual and it's socks come unhinged as it's virtual D/s fantasy world is challenged by those who actually do it.

Then again,we are people-not archetypes from a bad script.




LisaSadistic -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 9:00:55 PM)

Wait, is this the same "Nick" who keeps making socks on FetLife to spew the same misogynist BS? Is that who I've been trying to reason with this whole time?




Lucylastic -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 9:06:15 PM)

yeah Lisa, sorry to say, hes been posting here for years under different names, his tells are enormous




NoirMetal -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 9:07:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LisaSadistic

Wait, is this the same "Nick" who keeps making socks on FetLife to spew the same misogynist BS? Is that who I've been trying to reason with this whole time?

That is why I was advising to ignore it-we have a certified nutjob here Lisa. Dropped you a line.




LadyPact -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 10:00:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dudeinblack01
is bitching at each other all anyone does? Any one proud of their subs? Or their subdom? How do you experience sub space? Do you experience sub space?

Are you maybe a bit confused about how threads work?

Even if it weren't for people on different parts of the discussion, the topic is supposed to be related to the original post. Not different topics like 'has a person experienced sub space" or "share good experiences about pride in their subs/Doms". Those are different subjects.

If you would like to see people discuss those things, start a different thread with the different topic.

Good luck.




LadyPact -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 10:10:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
Lp, what you quoted from me has nothing to do with what the OP said.the fact of the matter is that many people seem to think men aren't entitled to complain period while women get this special magical pass to complain all they want.

You're doing a bang up job with the thread drift. [:-]

If you look at it, what is the OP's major complaint? It's that the price went up. Prices going up isn't specific to one gender or another.

The secondary complaint was 'zomg, how can this person not think sexual contact is a magical experience'? The very same complaint that is often heard by females, so there's no free pass there, either.





respectmen -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 10:51:21 PM)

Needles


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However, your bitch fits have been entirely on female entitlement, and how women treat men as sub humans because of men being a certain way, and how if men are a certain way on a kink site well women should actually expect this and put up with it.


Not even close. My complaint in this certain area in discussion has been about prejudice. Making unjustified and unfair judgements on men based on one bloody email.

Before you go spouting off with the same old crap, the same old shaming tactic that people use in an attempt to discredit a male complaining, no, I don't mean women should just fuck any guy who approaches them. I don't expect women to be easy. What I do expect women to be is have a realistic view on men instead of slamming us with your prejudice bullshit.

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You also seem to forget something really fricking vital in this whole thing here. It really is especially different for women on their own. There are, regardless of your tiny perception, predatory men out there, there are men out there that don't have the first clue what they are doing, and when you are single with children, you have them to take in to consideration too, even if it is no strings attached.


Yes I understand that and I'm in no denial at all that there are creepers out there. But seriously lady, how blacks were treated (the worse era of it)....it still is that way but in a much smaller extent...is the equivalent to how men are treated compared to women. I don't mean slavery and most of the bad stuff that happened. What I exclusively mean, just one factor, is how people deem blacks as potential criminals until proven otherwise. Or if someone does something that looks suspicious but not factual, people more likely would think a black is guilty over a white. Replace blacks with men and whites with women and you can see the same type of picture in that certain aspect. Men are fucking guilty, period!

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Notice how there is only tamaka ever on your side? no-one else agrees with you.


Do you notice the punishing irony in this lol? You are claiming 99 percent of men or the vast majority of men do it wrong? So therefore, that amount of men on this site disagree with you! That is a far larger number than 1. the female population on this site (as there are more men than women) 2. the small handful of people here who have made it a hobby to mock me at any chance they have. They are usually feminists and/or female firsters that always side with women in discussions. That's the main thing they all have in common.

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For instance, on your silly Lesbian note, because it is really petty, and dumb, simply because you failed to apply this SEXUALITY to your own agenda, but what happens to your silly little agenda when it's a Domme doing this to a woman? because women pay other women for pro sessions too, and are treated no differently to men.

Now this may also knock your keyboard socks off, but what happens when it's men on men? Because shock fricking horror, gay men also pay male Doms to session, and they are still treated exactly the same way as women would treat them.


Huh? You thought this does any damage to my argument? It makes you win somehow? Okay, let me wake you out of this fantasy dream.

The same applies, it's no different. Regardless what gender the domme/dom is and what the sub is, it's still the same. Just like how the same standards should apply to men who only want a fetish delivery system. You seem to want double standards for whatever reason. That's my beef about this! Such as he's wrong for treating women less than human but a pro domme isn't wrong for treating males less than human.

I have no problem with pro dommes existing, even that I don't agree with their doings. They are perfectly entitled to exist as much as men who just want a fetish delivery system.

Pro dommes do it for money, men looking for a fetish delivery system do it for pleasure. So basically, my only beef about it is that men looking for a fetish delivery system usually get slammed in these forums while pro dommes get protected and people stick up for them.

There shouldn't be a double standard. There should be one standard for all. That's simply my problem. It's really as simple as that. All I ask people is to stop being a fucking stupid hypocrite and consider men looking for a fetish delivery system the same as you consider pro dommes.

That aren't hard, right?

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You see, this is where you fail to Adult, because you just don't get how it all works. No-one owes anyone anything special when it's paid for, or someone just wants their own kink relief. You're the one that keeps saying that it should when it comes to women. I've put my views over, which everyone else seems to understand, except for you, and tamaka.


Oh I do know very well how it works, little girl. I never ever fucking claimed that a domme owes a man anything special. I also never ever claimed that women owe a man who wants a fetish delivery system what he wants. Please back up your claims by quoting something I said that indicates this. If you can't, this shows that you're a liar....just like Lucy and the rest who keep making these silly childish claims.




respectmen -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 11:11:38 PM)

Tamaka said:

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Why don't you just hide your profile then. If you're not looking, you don't want anyone, and your inbox is only causing you distress.


What's been expressed so much in these forums is when a male points out a male issue, people jump in and say "what are you doing about it"...in a means to invalidate the said man in complaining about it in this forum.

Yet women get to whinge about getting unwanted emails WHILE NOT DOING ANY FUCKING THING ABOUT IT WHILE THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN IN A FEW MOUSE CLICKS. Hilarious aren't it?[:D]




respectmen -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 11:38:59 PM)

Lisa said:

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Wait, is this the same "Nick" who keeps making socks on FetLife to spew the same misogynist BS? Is that who I've been trying to reason with this whole time?


She's calling others a misogynist and yet she's a female supremacist who believes 99 percent of men are horrible people. Why do so many people totally miss the irony? [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]




LadyPact -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/23/2017 11:42:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
What's been expressed so much in these forums is when a male points out a male issue, people jump in and say "what are you doing about it"...in a means to invalidate the said man in complaining about it in this forum.

Yet women get to whinge about getting unwanted emails WHILE NOT DOING ANY FUCKING THING ABOUT IT WHILE THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN IN A FEW MOUSE CLICKS. Hilarious aren't it?[:D]

Check box. Hit "delete unread".

Yep. It works.






NoirMetal -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/24/2017 2:13:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: dudeinblack01

is bitching at each other all anyone does? Any one proud of their subs? Or their subdom? How do you experience sub space? Do you experience sub space?


I live in subspace when i'm with Master. Even when i am talking to Him on the phone. For me it is kind of like a meditative state... but more complex than that. It's like living in our own world within a bigger world which i am hardly aware of the bigger world around us. Like living simultaneously in another dimension. It's hard to explain.

Domination is the art of getting a woman to see things your way. But you have to see things her way first. A developed dom/sub connection is all about intimacy and not being fearful of rejection. The bubble that forms around you both protects the energy flow from dissipation, and it heterodynes as it circulates back and forth.




needlesandpins -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/24/2017 8:45:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Needles


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However, your bitch fits have been entirely on female entitlement, and how women treat men as sub humans because of men being a certain way, and how if men are a certain way on a kink site well women should actually expect this and put up with it.


Not even close. My complaint in this certain area in discussion has been about prejudice. Making unjustified and unfair judgements on men based on one bloody email.

Before you go spouting off with the same old crap, the same old shaming tactic that people use in an attempt to discredit a male complaining, no, I don't mean women should just fuck any guy who approaches them. I don't expect women to be easy. What I do expect women to be is have a realistic view on men instead of slamming us with your prejudice bullshit.

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You also seem to forget something really fricking vital in this whole thing here. It really is especially different for women on their own. There are, regardless of your tiny perception, predatory men out there, there are men out there that don't have the first clue what they are doing, and when you are single with children, you have them to take in to consideration too, even if it is no strings attached.


Yes I understand that and I'm in no denial at all that there are creepers out there. But seriously lady, how blacks were treated (the worse era of it)....it still is that way but in a much smaller extent...is the equivalent to how men are treated compared to women. I don't mean slavery and most of the bad stuff that happened. What I exclusively mean, just one factor, is how people deem blacks as potential criminals until proven otherwise. Or if someone does something that looks suspicious but not factual, people more likely would think a black is guilty over a white. Replace blacks with men and whites with women and you can see the same type of picture in that certain aspect. Men are fucking guilty, period!

quote:

Notice how there is only tamaka ever on your side? no-one else agrees with you.


Do you notice the punishing irony in this lol? You are claiming 99 percent of men or the vast majority of men do it wrong? So therefore, that amount of men on this site disagree with you! That is a far larger number than 1. the female population on this site (as there are more men than women) 2. the small handful of people here who have made it a hobby to mock me at any chance they have. They are usually feminists and/or female firsters that always side with women in discussions. That's the main thing they all have in common.

quote:

For instance, on your silly Lesbian note, because it is really petty, and dumb, simply because you failed to apply this SEXUALITY to your own agenda, but what happens to your silly little agenda when it's a Domme doing this to a woman? because women pay other women for pro sessions too, and are treated no differently to men.

Now this may also knock your keyboard socks off, but what happens when it's men on men? Because shock fricking horror, gay men also pay male Doms to session, and they are still treated exactly the same way as women would treat them.


Huh? You thought this does any damage to my argument? It makes you win somehow? Okay, let me wake you out of this fantasy dream.

The same applies, it's no different. Regardless what gender the domme/dom is and what the sub is, it's still the same. Just like how the same standards should apply to men who only want a fetish delivery system. You seem to want double standards for whatever reason. That's my beef about this! Such as he's wrong for treating women less than human but a pro domme isn't wrong for treating males less than human.

I have no problem with pro dommes existing, even that I don't agree with their doings. They are perfectly entitled to exist as much as men who just want a fetish delivery system.

Pro dommes do it for money, men looking for a fetish delivery system do it for pleasure. So basically, my only beef about it is that men looking for a fetish delivery system usually get slammed in these forums while pro dommes get protected and people stick up for them.

There shouldn't be a double standard. There should be one standard for all. That's simply my problem. It's really as simple as that. All I ask people is to stop being a fucking stupid hypocrite and consider men looking for a fetish delivery system the same as you consider pro dommes.

That aren't hard, right?

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You see, this is where you fail to Adult, because you just don't get how it all works. No-one owes anyone anything special when it's paid for, or someone just wants their own kink relief. You're the one that keeps saying that it should when it comes to women. I've put my views over, which everyone else seems to understand, except for you, and tamaka.


Oh I do know very well how it works, little girl. I never ever fucking claimed that a domme owes a man anything special. I also never ever claimed that women owe a man who wants a fetish delivery system what he wants. Please back up your claims by quoting something I said that indicates this. If you can't, this shows that you're a liar....just like Lucy and the rest who keep making these silly childish claims.




Right, so much of what you've written here is just bullshit, and you know it.

Your entire bitch fitting argument has been about the fact that that men should get what they want. Every time one of us slams you down you back track just a little further with 'no that's not what I meant'.

You kept claiming originally that women should give men what they wanted, that actually yes, we should be the fetish delivery system men want, and that indeed if men are paying for it then why shouldn't they get all the whistles and bells too that come with a relationship.

Comparing my statement about women having to be careful about who they meet to a racist remark about Blacks, WOW, really weak!

You're even agreeing with tamaka that we're supposed to hide our profiles, or tailor them to stop the douche bags from mailing us with their bullshit, because again you think that's OUR fault, and not their shitty behaviour.

Again, bad reflection on your thought processes.

Keep back tracking quick enough, and you may just figure out how to time travel enough to get back to the past where your mum can do a better job of raising you.

Needles




needlesandpins -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/24/2017 9:44:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Needles


Oh I do know very well how it works, little girl. I never ever fucking claimed that a domme owes a man anything special. I also never ever claimed that women owe a man who wants a fetish delivery system what he wants. Please back up your claims by quoting something I said that indicates this. If you can't, this shows that you're a liar....just like Lucy and the rest who keep making these silly childish claims.



As you specifically asked though, and I have a little time to spare;


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

OP, she's not treating you as a human. She's treating you as a financial delivery system. She must be criticised and looked down upon in these forums for not wanting a relationship with you.


And because I simply can not be bothered to copy and paste all your other posts to here, but your absolute train wrecking whinge festing, 'I don't know how to adult' thread about a woman offering for you to cut her lawn has to be your biggest example to date. In fact choose any thread you post in within this board, and it's all much of the same, it's just that you don't see it that way, because it's your little whinge fest agenda.

Needles




WhoreMods -> RE: Don't They Enjoy It? (3/24/2017 10:05:16 AM)

This one here? It's an absolute classic.




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