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needlesandpins -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 11:32:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

So the OP is being criticised for having standards yet we are all suposed to accept women having standards....such as female standards not being met with 99 percent of men in this website.

I think judging women for being fatsos is mild compared to thinking 99 percent of a gender isn't good enough for you.


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LadyPact -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 11:47:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal
You only have to give notice if you have a rental agreement. Guests can be told to vacate at any time.

Part of the problem with the thread. This part isn't clear, so I'm going with it could have been either. (Guest or rent agreement.) Plus, I'm not as good with what would define a rental agreement. It isn't always formal lease but I couldn't say what less formal things apply.

I'm also going from the angle of, if she did pay rent, it would be nice if he honored the agreement they had for the term. Either that, or if she paid several months in advance, give her that money back as she'll need it for expenses such as deposit and first months rent.





needlesandpins -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 11:50:39 AM)

OP

Have you ever thought that by being 100lb over weight, and eating crap all the time that you are the one making it impossible for her to stick to any goals? I mean, if you yourself can't exert any control over what you eat in front of her, and lose weight yourself, over 3 times as much as you want her to lose, then why the expectation on her?

30lb and I have to wonder what her starting weight is. Do you not have any feelings for her at all? If not, and that was always the way it was going to be, then why on earth did you allow her to develope feelings for you? That's just plain cruel. If you do have feelings for her, why the hell is it totally dependent on a mere 30lb of weight?

We have RM constantly bleating on, and crying all over these forums about how shallow women are, and yet here you are being excessively shallow about 30lb of body when you admit that you could stand to lose at least 100lb, and yet she loves you for who you are.

Before you even think of moving anyone else in to your home, I think you better seriously think about the boundaries of your NON RELATIONSHIP first. I mean, WTF do you think you're going to do with a new woman if she dares to put a bit of weight on?

Needles




NoirMetal -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 11:52:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal
You only have to give notice if you have a rental agreement. Guests can be told to vacate at any time.

Part of the problem with the thread. This part isn't clear, so I'm going with it could have been either. (Guest or rent agreement.) Plus, I'm not as good with what would define a rental agreement. It isn't always formal lease but I couldn't say what less formal things apply.

I'm also going from the angle of, if she did pay rent, it would be nice if he honored the agreement they had for the term. Either that, or if she paid several months in advance, give her that money back as she'll need it for expenses such as deposit and first months rent.



I'm in accord with some of the other posters however. I'd have to find a lot more value than just the body to let someone that intimately into my life. It can take as much as a year to lose 30 pounds, and the individual really needs to be healthy for themselves. Same reason I run from wounded birds, and "forever children." I'll never be strong enough to bear the full weight of two.




stef -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 12:01:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

You only have to give notice if you have a rental agreement. Guests can be told to vacate at any time.

Not necessarily. When I was living in California (2002), the law was that after living in a rental property for 30 days or more, a houseguest is legally considered a tenant-at-will, and required following the eviction process if you wanted to boot them out against their will.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 12:39:32 PM)

Stef is right about California law, and it can under some circumstances be even fewer than 30 days. Be careful who you let sleep over and for how long.




WhoreMods -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 12:46:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
WTF do you think you're going to do with a new woman if she dares to put a bit of weight on?

Whine about how difficult it is to get rid of her, obvs.




needlesandpins -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 12:51:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
WTF do you think you're going to do with a new woman if she dares to put a bit of weight on?

Whine about how difficult it is to get rid of her, obvs.


Holy crap, we're going to need a whole string section of tiny Violins!

Needles




respectmen -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 1:09:27 PM)

But but but this woman consented to partake in this, how is this wrong?

I'm comparing this to the argument in the other thread with pro dommes being accepted to treat men less than human because the said men agreed to it.




WhoreMods -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 1:18:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

But but but this woman consented to partake in this, how is this wrong?

Did she?
The OP hasn't said a single word that supports this thesis. He said that he wants a sub to move out because she hasn't lost any weight, not that he'd got involved with her on the understanding that this would happen.




stef -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 1:20:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

But but but this woman consented to partake in this, how is this wrong?

Did she?
The OP hasn't said a single word that supports this thesis. He said that he wants a sub to move out because she hasn't lost any weight, not that he'd got involved with her on the understanding that this would happen.

You're attempting to bring logic and reason in to one of Nicky's cryfests. That simply will not do.




WhoreMods -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 1:23:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

But but but this woman consented to partake in this, how is this wrong?

Did she?
The OP hasn't said a single word that supports this thesis. He said that he wants a sub to move out because she hasn't lost any weight, not that he'd got involved with her on the understanding that this would happen.

You're attempting to bring logic and reason in to one of Nicky's cryfests. That simply will not do.

My bad.




LadyPact -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 2:09:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal
I'm in accord with some of the other posters however. I'd have to find a lot more value than just the body to let someone that intimately into my life. It can take as much as a year to lose 30 pounds, and the individual really needs to be healthy for themselves. Same reason I run from wounded birds, and "forever children." I'll never be strong enough to bear the full weight of two.

I'm not looking at the weight issue as much as some of the other posters are. I think that issue, as a specific, has potential to spiral the thread out of control, rather than the general issue of wanting to dismiss the s-type/want her out of the house thing.

Unfortunately, I have to admit that I was dumb enough to do this at one time. Different angle. I was told at the time that one of the factors was the person was looking at losing his (and his family's) medical insurance coverage. (I never really knew and still don't if that was actually true.) I was told he had secured a full time position in my area. (I had no way to verify that at the time and that definitely turned out not to be true.) I wasn't terribly big on the idea but eventually, I said ok. I did set it up as a rental agreement situation that was very modest and affordable on the other person's part. (Room and board, three hundred dollars a month. Pretty decent deal for anybody in the USA.) That had to be renegotiated at a later date and increased because it was costing my husband and I to have the person stay with us, which I didn't find acceptable. It was never a thing where my husband and I said we were going to financially support the individual.

As the months went on, the problems just continually increased. A number of incidents about disobedience and bad behavior. Dishonestly about a number of things. Manipulation tactics. Interference with my relationship between my husband and myself. Taking things that didn't belong to him. Inability to remain employed. (It was one of the conditions.) Things like tasks not being done to my standards. Just ridiculous things that nobody would put up with from somebody staying with them. I was reprimanding and punishing way more than anybody should ever have to. I was completely unhappy.

I say this because, literally, I've had to do this. I couldn't tell you what the last thing I punished the individual was for, but if I recall correctly, I really did break the punishment paddle on his @ss, and told the person he would get my further decision on the matter the following day. (My stance on punishment isn't necessarily it's done and over. It is also the time that both parties should consider whether the dynamic is viable or not.) When my husband was able to be present, the three of us sat at my kitchen table. The individual was told I was finished with the dynamic and he had through when his contribution to household cost was paid to leave. I cried some frustration tears for failing as a Dominant for about fifteen minutes, took a nap, and that was it. I have never once missed the person, regretted my decision, or felt bad about the person not being in my life. In fact, I was immediately happier that very same day.

I didn't have to worry about any of the stuff about the person being entitled to stay past that. The other person had his own residence elsewhere, name wasn't on any documents, no utilities, or much that could prove residence. I'm already married, so no common law concerns. The person didn't leave with less than what he came with.

The other part about things the individual did after he left, is probably better for another day. A lot of people on the forums are familiar with the stalking, outing, harassment, and twenty other things that would make people go pale. It wasn't a big secret to people in my local community, my family, or people on the forums. It's just a little long of a story to tell and I'm off to work.





NoirMetal -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 2:12:13 PM)

Understand,have had similar situations through poor vetting on my part.

No one rides for free.




NoirMetal -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 2:24:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

So the OP is being criticised for having standards yet we are all suposed to accept women having standards....such as female standards not being met with 99 percent of men in this website.

I think judging women for being fatsos is mild compared to thinking 99 percent of a gender isn't good enough for you.


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Gah,you are setting off my 2% brony needles.




needlesandpins -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/21/2017 2:41:29 PM)

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Needles




JeffBC -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/24/2017 12:17:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WMDom26CA
3. I've tried everything possible but she hasn't lost one pound!!


I've been quite successful in removing weight from my wife on and off as I saw fit. If you have not then one of two things is true. Either your submissive has a physical condition (way over-reported but still a real thing), or else you failed utterly (way more likely). Here's a little thought experiment for you. Let's assume you gave her nothing to eat whatsoever for 4 days. Such a thing isn't even remotely at the limits of human endurance for a healthy human. Are you seriously saying she would lose no weight? Ultimately physics comes into play here. If energy is being expended then it has to come from somewhere (no matter what Tesla thought LOL).

For me this was trivially easy (although annoyingly labor intensive). I just did a lot of research, figured out an appropriate caloric budget for her with the weight loss progress I wanted. Then between us we measured and documented every scrap of anything that went into her mouth. Not surprisingly, physics prevailed and she lost weight more or less along the predicted trajectory. What is the "everything" that you tried?

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5. How do I get her out?

You say, "You are no longer welcome in my house. You have x number of weeks to arrange an alternative. Please start making preparations." How is that hard?

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I'm currently seeking for another female submissive to move in. Hopefully she can kick her out.

*blink*




peppermint -> RE: How To Dismiss A Submissive (3/24/2017 1:28:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

You only have to give notice if you have a rental agreement. Guests can be told to vacate at any time.


Once a "guest" has been in your home for a time, the guest becomes a tenant with legal rights. I don't think the OP said how long she's been living with him, but it doesn't sound as if it is just a couple weeks. You don't need to have a formal rental agreement for a person to be considered a tenant instead of a guest.

I have a friend dealing with a long term guest who needs to go. She talked to the sheriff to see what she can do. Thirty days notice, in writing is required to get rid of her long term guest.

Actually, the OP is sadly lacking in any dominant qualities if he can't talk with someone he gladly invited to his home. It just sounds as if he is unable to communicate effectively. So sad. I don't really feel sorry for him that he is unable to deal with his own life.




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