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Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:20:34 PM   
RivkasTaken


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Are there ever days where you doubt your gender identity?

I identify as a CIS Female, but feel more like a guy half the time. I don't feel like I am male or should be male all the time, but there are moments where I have flickers of doubt. Am I just overthinking things? I've never been the most feminine of women. Half the time I feel more like a man with a vagina instead of a penis. It doesn't help that I have more Male hormone in my system than most women do, due to a hormonal disorder

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:29:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you hasve a hormonal disorder, shouldn't you be talking to your doctor rather than strangers on the internet??

If you have a higher level of testosterone in your system, you should consider tasking hormone therapies to correct the imbalance.
Your doctor should be your first port of call - not a kink website.


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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:43:51 PM   
RivkasTaken


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Status: offline 		I am currently working with my doctor. I am on her prescribed treatment. She has no experience with gender identity questions, she directed me toward the internet.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:49:35 PM   
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How do you know you have more male hormones, and if so why are you not doing anything to correct this? Surely there is an underlying reason for that that should be addressed first, one way or another?

I have had hormonal imbalances due to PCOS, but they've never made me feel anything other than a woman. I can't comment about feeling anything other than female, as I've never felt anything else, but had I done, I think I'd be seeking help from my DR first.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:52:11 PM   
RivkasTaken


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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:54:47 PM   
needlesandpins


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Having screwed up hormones is not the same thing as gender identity. If your Dr doesn't know anything about this, and has to refer you to the internet, I think you ought to change your DR.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 1:58:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RivkasTaken
I'm not 100% sure where this thread should go so please bare with me.

Are there ever days where you doubt your gender identity?

I identify as a CIS Female, but feel more like a guy half the time. I don't feel like I am male or should be male all the time, but there are moments where I have flickers of doubt. Am I just overthinking things? I've never been the most feminine of women. Half the time I feel more like a man with a vagina instead of a penis. It doesn't help that I have more Male hormone in my system than most women do, due to a hormonal disorder

Not really no. There is no disassociation between my physical body and how I see my "self".

I am rather curious though, what do you mean "feel more like a man" since just like women they come in all stripes. I mean... I don't behave much like a "man". I don't own a horse. I have no chaps. I don't like guns, sports, cars, or most of the other typical male focuses. I like interior decorating and I love talking about relationships. I've often quipped that I'd make a really great gay guy if only I was attracted to men. But still, I like my body which is obviously different than what you're reporting.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 2:08:11 PM   
longwayhome


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Status: offline 		Only you can know how you feel about your gender identity.

High levels of male hormones can women feel a whole range of things from incredibly horny to incredibly unwell.

Although we sometimes try to make them into the font of all human knowledge or life coaches, doctors are not priests or philosophers. A doctor cannot tell you what gender identity you should adopt, only the potential effects of whatever hormone levels you might have. Even then what hormones do to your body is very complex and not a simple matter.

I suspect your friends might know and understand more about you than your doctor. Confiding in them if you can could give you more insight than a medical professional. Furthermore someone who can actually see your eyes is likely to be more responsive to your needs than fellow posters on these Boards.

All the best on your journey of discovery.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 2:08:39 PM   
LisaSadistic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

quote:

ORIGINAL: RivkasTaken
I'm not 100% sure where this thread should go so please bare with me.

Are there ever days where you doubt your gender identity?

I identify as a CIS Female, but feel more like a guy half the time. I don't feel like I am male or should be male all the time, but there are moments where I have flickers of doubt. Am I just overthinking things? I've never been the most feminine of women. Half the time I feel more like a man with a vagina instead of a penis. It doesn't help that I have more Male hormone in my system than most women do, due to a hormonal disorder

Not really no. There is no disassociation between my physical body and how I see my "self".

I am rather curious though, what do you mean "feel more like a man" since just like women they come in all stripes. I mean... I don't behave much like a "man". I don't own a horse. I have no chaps. I don't like guns, sports, cars, or most of the other typical male focuses. I like interior decorating and I love talking about relationships. I've often quipped that I'd make a really great gay guy if only I was attracted to men. But still, I like my body which is obviously different than what you're reporting.


I feel the exact same way. I've never been a girly girl, and I suspect that I might have high T, but I've never been tested. But every time I check, yup, vagina is still there. Still female.

It's OK to be yourself, and to feel however you feel. Just because you don't fit into stereotypes doesn't mean that you're not a woman. You're as much a woman as any other woman I'm not even sure why your hormones need to be messed with unless they're causing a health problem.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 2:18:08 PM   
longwayhome


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Status: offline 		I'd certainly echo the thought that it's OK to be yourself, and to feel however you feel.

As a man I'm not big on girly girls but I do regard them as women, if that's how they see themselves.

What gender identity you feel that you have and how you feel about it are questions for you only.

Hopefully you have some open-minded fellow human-beings as friends who you can work these things through with.

Whatever conclusion you come to, and however fluid or otherwise you feel your identity might be, there are no right or wrong answers, only answers that are right or wrong for you.



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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 2:33:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		and your gender is what OP? hell have your wife call me and i will ask her as you sit in the next room and shit your pants
Pant shiiters I do not like so have your fuking bitch call me...and she can declare me god



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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 3:45:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Only you can know how you feel about your gender identity.

High levels of male hormones can women feel a whole range of things from incredibly horny to incredibly unwell.

Although we sometimes try to make them into the font of all human knowledge or life coaches, doctors are not priests or philosophers. A doctor cannot tell you what gender identity you should adopt, only the potential effects of whatever hormone levels you might have. Even then what hormones do to your body is very complex and not a simple matter.

I suspect your friends might know and understand more about you than your doctor. Confiding in them if you can could give you more insight than a medical professional. Furthermore someone who can actually see your eyes is likely to be more responsive to your needs than fellow posters on these Boards.

All the best on your journey of discovery.


excellent post LWH

Ive never felt like a man, Im just me, mentally and physically female, with hormone issues, but I dont know how "being a man" feels...if that makes sense.
I can empathise with it, but i can never know or can I< its not something Ive thought about for a long time

I hate shopping with a passion,
I pee in the shower occasionally(I practised for a long time just to say I could) I clean it, I can pee in it if I want.
Im a woman who likes strapons, but its not being a man, its being me enjoying my submissive. yes control is there but that isnt male
Food for thought, thankyou.
I wish you well, and good luck
I hope you find someone who can help you medically and a good person to help with the confusion you feel (either professionally or privately.


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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 4:56:06 PM   
RivkasTaken


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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 4:57:24 PM   
RivkasTaken


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

and your gender is what OP? hell have your wife call me and i will ask her as you sit in the next room and shit your pants
Pant shiiters I do not like so have your fuking bitch call me...and she can declare me god





I don't understand

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 4:59:56 PM   
JeffBC


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ORIGINAL: LisaSadistic
I feel the exact same way. I've never been a girly girl, and I suspect that I might have high T, but I've never been tested. But every time I check, yup, vagina is still there. Still female.

I guess I don't really attach to my body much at all. I'm a pretty cerebral type. So my plumbing isn't of much significance to me. Yeah, I have a cock but if I felt that I expressed more freely as female than male then I'd do that.

quote:

It's OK to be yourself, and to feel however you feel. Just because you don't fit into stereotypes doesn't mean that you're not a woman.

Heh, I'd go further. It's pretty much critical to be your actual self and few of us fit into stereotypes. I am what I am and I'm no more interested in conforming to vanilla stereotypes than I am BDSM ones. I am no more a "real man" than I am a "True Master". Both are ridiculous constructs in my mind.

What I wish is that our society as a whole would stop telling other people what they should be or how they should act so long as those actions are not harmful to everyone else. Note: "Harm" in this sentence does not mean "I'm offended".


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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 5:09:23 PM   
DesFIP


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ORIGINAL: RivkasTaken


quote:

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and your gender is what OP? hell have your wife call me and i will ask her as you sit in the next room and shit your pants
Pant shiiters I do not like so have your fuking bitch call me...and she can declare me god





I don't understand


Just put him on block like the rest of us. It's rare any of his posts make sense.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 5:09:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RivkasTaken


quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

and your gender is what OP? hell have your wife call me and i will ask her as you sit in the next room and shit your pants
Pant shiiters I do not like so have your fuking bitch call me...and she can declare me god





I don't understand


Don't try. He's being naughty, and we'll make him sit on the naughty step for a time out

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 5:12:21 PM   
needlesandpins


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

quote:

ORIGINAL: LisaSadistic
I feel the exact same way. I've never been a girly girl, and I suspect that I might have high T, but I've never been tested. But every time I check, yup, vagina is still there. Still female.

I guess I don't really attach to my body much at all. I'm a pretty cerebral type. So my plumbing isn't of much significance to me. Yeah, I have a cock but if I felt that I expressed more freely as female than male then I'd do that.

quote:

It's OK to be yourself, and to feel however you feel. Just because you don't fit into stereotypes doesn't mean that you're not a woman.

Heh, I'd go further. It's pretty much critical to be your actual self and few of us fit into stereotypes. I am what I am and I'm no more interested in conforming to vanilla stereotypes than I am BDSM ones. I am no more a "real man" than I am a "True Master". Both are ridiculous constructs in my mind.

What I wish is that our society as a whole would stop telling other people what they should be or how they should act so long as those actions are not harmful to everyone else. Note: "Harm" in this sentence does not mean "I'm offended".



I like this post so much

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 5:18:39 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Op, my recommendation is to call a LBGTQ group and ask for a referral to a therapist who is experienced in gender dysmorphia. In the meantime, Suggest you look up gender fluid and see if this resonates.

I have a higher T level than average, and shoulders like a linebacker, but that doesn't make me confused about my gender. If your feelings predate the hormonal issue, then I don't think they're related. Little kids know what gender they are, when one says their gender doesn't match their parts, they know what they're talking about.

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RE: Gender Identity - 3/24/2017 5:43:19 PM   
tamaka


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ORIGINAL: LisaSadistic


quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

quote:

ORIGINAL: RivkasTaken
I'm not 100% sure where this thread should go so please bare with me.

Are there ever days where you doubt your gender identity?

I identify as a CIS Female, but feel more like a guy half the time. I don't feel like I am male or should be male all the time, but there are moments where I have flickers of doubt. Am I just overthinking things? I've never been the most feminine of women. Half the time I feel more like a man with a vagina instead of a penis. It doesn't help that I have more Male hormone in my system than most women do, due to a hormonal disorder

Not really no. There is no disassociation between my physical body and how I see my "self".

I am rather curious though, what do you mean "feel more like a man" since just like women they come in all stripes. I mean... I don't behave much like a "man". I don't own a horse. I have no chaps. I don't like guns, sports, cars, or most of the other typical male focuses. I like interior decorating and I love talking about relationships. I've often quipped that I'd make a really great gay guy if only I was attracted to men. But still, I like my body which is obviously different than what you're reporting.


I feel the exact same way. I've never been a girly girl, and I suspect that I might have high T, but I've never been tested. But every time I check, yup, vagina is still there. Still female.

It's OK to be yourself, and to feel however you feel. Just because you don't fit into stereotypes doesn't mean that you're not a woman. You're as much a woman as any other woman I'm not even sure why your hormones need to be messed with unless they're causing a health problem.



So basically,
You're a woman
Who feels like a man
Who wants to sadisticly dom men
And wants the men to treat her like a woman
Because she feels like a man.

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