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"As of 2016 by far the largest form of grid energy storage on grids is dammed hydroelectricity, with both conventional hydroelectric generation as well as pumped storage."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_energy_storage

Oh, and I wasn't talking about stored energy. Down in the basement of every energy company in the U.S. Is a group of people trying to balance their loads. They buy and sell electricity back and forth 24/7. The best source of extra energy is the coal plants. The extra energy mostly used in my area is bought from a coal plant in Montana for instance.

The worst source for extra energy is coal plants. And I dont give a glimmer of a fuck where you live, most of your energy does not come from a single coal plant in Montana, those auctions are minute by minute, hour by hour. I been in those rooms, not many in the basement, I have programmed those computers. Since that is the lifeblood of the power companies, that grid, forecasting and runs into the multimillion dollars an hour even in a town the size of fergus falls mn its about a million an hour, bad beats of a quarter million dollars are not uncommon. No, they are paid well, and that distribution and forecasting room is quite comfortable, well lit (if you want it) and snacks and diversions betwixt times aplenty. They probably work a very intense 20 minutes an hour, 10 before and 10 near the end of it, and the rest of the time who knows, they are on facebook or collarme or watching tv or reading the WSJ, or talking on the phone with the girlfriends.

Oh jees, doctor, ffl, youngest master Sargent in army history, computer programmer to power companies. Why you've done everything. Ya right. You'll full of shit. Cite a source or take your meds mental patient.

Oh, jeeze there you are been a felchgobbler living out of your mothers basement all your life.

I bet you know the age of putinjizz to the minute by taste and texture alone.

Here is another one of the inSanity-Wilbur circlefelch. http://alternativemediasyndicate.com/2017/03/24/gop-senator-ralph-shortey-hit-child-prostitution-charges/

I was never a master sergeant btw. thats the sort of rank you would have gotten if you would have stayed cooking in the service instead of the dishonorable discharge you got for felching and your retardation, out of boot camp had you not been a fucking toiletlicking coward in the first place.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


Google how long tesla batteries last.

If you had bothered to follow your own advice you would not have posted the moronic shit that follows.

You have to swap out the batteries every 125,000 miles at $30,000 a pop.


the battery is guaranteed for 8 years and unlimited mileage dumbass.
The replacement cost is $12,000 after the guarantee is expired.



Read the fine print dumbass


http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096801_tesla-model-s-battery-life-how-much-range-loss-for-electric-car-over-time

It’s an especially worrisome question for Model S owners, for two reasons:
First, the list price of a replacement 85-kWh battery pack is a whopping $44,000.
(That cost would presumably be reduced by the trade-in value of the old pack, a number that has not been publicly revealed as far as I know.)

That "fine print" (the core) would seem to invalidate your opinion

Second, it’s a little-noticed fact that Tesla’s eight-year “infinite-mile” battery-pack warranty doesn’t actually guarantee any particular level of capacity.
It only guarantees that the battery will work properly to propel the car.

Notice the quote from mr. musk.
Notice also the level of degradation from the chart.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

https://electrek.co/2016/06/06/tesla-model-s-battery-pack-data-degradation/

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Battery capacity can be affected by several factors like frequent full capacity charging, periods of time uncharged and fast-charging

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Tesla’s vehicles come with a 8 years/unlimited miles battery warranty, the loss of battery energy or power over time due to normal battery usage is not covered under this warranty. The data points above would represent normal capacity loss over normal use.

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CEO Elon Musk once referred to a battery pack Tesla was testing in the lab. He said that the company had simulated over 500,000 miles on it and that it was still operating at over 80% of its original capacity.

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"As of 2016 by far the largest form of grid energy storage on grids is dammed hydroelectricity, with both conventional hydroelectric generation as well as pumped storage."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_energy_storage

Oh, and I wasn't talking about stored energy. Down in the basement of every energy company in the U.S. Is a group of people trying to balance their loads. They buy and sell electricity back and forth 24/7. The best source of extra energy is the coal plants. The extra energy mostly used in my area is bought from a coal plant in Montana for instance.

The worst source for extra energy is coal plants. And I dont give a glimmer of a fuck where you live, most of your energy does not come from a single coal plant in Montana, those auctions are minute by minute, hour by hour. I been in those rooms, not many in the basement, I have programmed those computers. Since that is the lifeblood of the power companies, that grid, forecasting and runs into the multimillion dollars an hour even in a town the size of fergus falls mn its about a million an hour, bad beats of a quarter million dollars are not uncommon. No, they are paid well, and that distribution and forecasting room is quite comfortable, well lit (if you want it) and snacks and diversions betwixt times aplenty. They probably work a very intense 20 minutes an hour, 10 before and 10 near the end of it, and the rest of the time who knows, they are on facebook or collarme or watching tv or reading the WSJ, or talking on the phone with the girlfriends.

Oh jees, doctor, ffl, youngest master Sargent in army history, computer programmer to power companies. Why you've done everything. Ya right. You'll full of shit. Cite a source or take your meds mental patient.

Oh, jeeze there you are been a felchgobbler living out of your mothers basement all your life.

I bet you know the age of putinjizz to the minute by taste and texture alone.

Here is another one of the inSanity-Wilbur circlefelch. http://alternativemediasyndicate.com/2017/03/24/gop-senator-ralph-shortey-hit-child-prostitution-charges/

I was never a master sergeant btw. thats the sort of rank you would have gotten if you would have stayed cooking in the service instead of the dishonorable discharge you got for felching and your retardation, out of boot camp had you not been a fucking toiletlicking coward in the first place.

Lol. Totally proven to know nothing yet claim everything 99% of the time.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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"As of 2016 by far the largest form of grid energy storage on grids is dammed hydroelectricity, with both conventional hydroelectric generation as well as pumped storage."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_energy_storage

Oh, and I wasn't talking about stored energy. Down in the basement of every energy company in the U.S. Is a group of people trying to balance their loads. They buy and sell electricity back and forth 24/7. The best source of extra energy is the coal plants. The extra energy mostly used in my area is bought from a coal plant in Montana for instance.

The worst source for extra energy is coal plants. And I dont give a glimmer of a fuck where you live, most of your energy does not come from a single coal plant in Montana, those auctions are minute by minute, hour by hour. I been in those rooms, not many in the basement, I have programmed those computers. Since that is the lifeblood of the power companies, that grid, forecasting and runs into the multimillion dollars an hour even in a town the size of fergus falls mn its about a million an hour, bad beats of a quarter million dollars are not uncommon. No, they are paid well, and that distribution and forecasting room is quite comfortable, well lit (if you want it) and snacks and diversions betwixt times aplenty. They probably work a very intense 20 minutes an hour, 10 before and 10 near the end of it, and the rest of the time who knows, they are on facebook or collarme or watching tv or reading the WSJ, or talking on the phone with the girlfriends.

Oh jees, doctor, ffl, youngest master Sargent in army history, computer programmer to power companies. Why you've done everything. Ya right. You'll full of shit. Cite a source or take your meds mental patient.

Oh, jeeze there you are been a felchgobbler living out of your mothers basement all your life.

I bet you know the age of putinjizz to the minute by taste and texture alone.

Here is another one of the inSanity-Wilbur circlefelch. http://alternativemediasyndicate.com/2017/03/24/gop-senator-ralph-shortey-hit-child-prostitution-charges/

I was never a master sergeant btw. thats the sort of rank you would have gotten if you would have stayed cooking in the service instead of the dishonorable discharge you got for felching and your retardation, out of boot camp had you not been a fucking toiletlicking coward in the first place.

Lol. Totally proven to know nothing yet claim everything 99% of the time.

You havent proven anything ever wilbur, except that you felchgobble hogsheads of putinjizz and are a retard, with no knowledge of anything whatsoever, and that you love to demonstrate that constantly, with every post.

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http://www.innotap.com/

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/apr/23/business/fi-enron23

here, read this one retard, pay particular attention to Otter Tail Power.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/hepg/Papers/2015/A%20Brown%20and%20R%20Salter%20.%20WB.%202013.pdf

Now, you got a tongue full of felch and slobber, Wilbur and your little tiny peener in your hand, Wilbur and tell me about all the shit you know, felchgobbler.

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1st is software to bid and forecast for energy auctions. Learn to read, retard.
2nd is about Enron and its (probably only turn down of wrong doing) in an auction bidding scam. Learn to read retard.
3rd yeah..........let it go. You cant read retard.

Heres what this has to do with the toiletlicking and felchgobbling you are doing. Nobody in the entire United States of America, except a small town in Montana get their electricity delivered to the specifically by a small coal fired plant in montana.

None of these guys are in a dank basement.

I know you dont get it, you are felchgobbling factless shit and listening to the putinjizz electrical shorts in your withered brainstem. As you see, overages are not produced by coal.

So your little factless felchgobbling points are dismissed in the same retardation you are.

The real world operates very differently, you dont know how it works as has been demonstrated

electric power trading station
https://www.google.com/search?q=energy+auction+floors&rlz=1C1NHXL_enUS726US726&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFtdK63a7TAhVi1oMKHVOTA74Q_AUICSgC&biw=1024&bih=487#tbm=isch&q=electric+power+trading+floor&imgrc=AvlI4AFyaYAj6M:

https://www.google.com/search?q=energy+auction+floors&rlz=1C1NHXL_enUS726US726&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFtdK63a7TAhVi1oMKHVOTA74Q_AUICSgC&biw=1024&bih=487#tbm=isch&q=wholesale+electrical+trading+floor&imgrc=oEsgG1wvk0pONM:

in their dank basements in a coal fired plant in montana......................you are a bafoon and a maroon.

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Montana has five existing coal-fired power plants, the largest being Pennsylvania Power’s Colstrip power plant in south central Montana. Proposals for new coal fired power facilities have diminished with rising environmental concerns and a requirement that all new coal-fired power facilities sequester 50% of their carbon emissions.
Current Coal Plants in Montana

Pennsylvania Power Colstrip Complex, 2,314 MW
Corette, 163 MW
Lewis and Clark Station, 50 MW
Hardin, 116 MW
Thompson Falls, 16 MW
Pennsylvania Power’s Colstrip plant is the second largest coal-fired power plant west of the Mississippi...

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Oh, and I wasn't talking about stored energy. Down in the basement of every energy company in the U.S. Is a group of people trying to balance their loads. They buy and sell electricity back and forth 24/7. The best source of extra energy is the coal plants. The extra energy mostly used in my area is bought from a coal plant in Montana for instance.

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Base model tesla model s start at $62,000.
Look on ebay and craigs list to find fully equipped tesla model s in the 50-60 k range.



Base model is under 40K.


You are full of shit.


I'm fairly confident you've attempted to emphasize that point more than multiple times in the past.

Base Tesla is still, regardless of your opinion about my mental capacity....under 40 grand.

Cite please

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hey troll:

"Confirmed: The $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Was Unveiled in March 2016"

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UPDATE, February 2016: We're getting close to the March 2016 mark when Elon Musk told the world that Tesla would reveal the Model 3, it's new, more affordable take on the electric car. But Musk now says the event at the end of next month may not, in fact, be a full reveal. Musk promised only "the first pictures of the Model 3," meaning some of the details about the much-anticipated EV could remain in a dark deeper into 2016.

Musk also confirmed, in a Feb. 9 interview with Bloomberg, that the Model 3 will meet its promised price tag of $35,000, and that's before government incentives that could drive it significantly lower.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12983/35000-tesla-model-iii-coming-in-2017/

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Tesla has said that by the end of next year it will build 500,000 new Model 3 compacts, expected to sell for around $40,000.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2017/04/13/tesla-pickup-truck/100426804/

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Tesla has received more than 370,000 preorders for the Model 3, which will cost $40,000 to $45,000, depending on a customer’s specs.

http://www.wmay.com/2017/04/14/all-eyes-on-tesla-as-it-faces-its-biggest-hurdle-yet/

so the price went up a little from the "promised" price of UNDER 40k to ~40k----which effectively makes cervix correct, and you wrong, and then of course this:

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If I disagree with another poster I will deliniate my disagreement with validation from reputable sources. When proved wrong I admit it and thank the poster for disabusing me of my ignorance. I have been proved wrong in less than a half dozen cases with more than 20,000 post.

you could have found that information yourself in just a couple of minutes of looking as opposed to sticking by your untenable position of 62k---as if tesla was only making one model and cervix wasn't talking about that??

so if you try to hang your hat on the "model s" distinction, youre going to look all the more a fool.

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Yup, you are a retard.

As of the end of 2015, Montana held nearly one-fourth of the nation's demonstrated coal reserve base and was the sixth-largest coal-producing state. It produced 4.7% of U.S. coal in 2015 and distributed coal to seven other states

Hydroelectric power provided almost one-third of Montana's net electricity generation in 2015 and wind energy provided most of the rest of the state's renewable generation.

Montanans use about half of the electricity generated in the state.90 The rest is sent to other western states by high-voltage transmission lines. Generating more electricity for sale in other states is seen as an economic opportunity for Montana, but current transmission lines are congested, and new capacity must be built to expand sales. Most of Montana is part of the Western Interconnection grid serving western states and Canadian provinces.91 Several transmission projects are being developed to increase capacity to move electricity from both conventional and renewable sources out of Montana to states in the west and southwest.

(from your link)


You are too retarded (and we are not arguing, you have no facts to argue) to understand that in upstate NY, you dont get a fucking milliwatt of electricity from no coal fired plant in Montana.

Nnanji (not wilbur) who lives in upstate NY. LOL, you changed your sock profile again wilbur, back to california, wilbur.

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Oh, and I wasn't talking about stored energy. Down in the basement of every energy company in the U.S. Is a group of people trying to balance their loads. They buy and sell electricity back and forth 24/7. The best source of extra energy is the coal plants. The extra energy mostly used in my area is bought from a coal plant in Montana for instance.

They are not in basements and Montana is one million people. And they dont ship shit to CA in any case it is used up in Oregon. They produce twice the electricity they need. They are just getting into the southwest, and ship and have shipped the electricity west. 11 states and 2 canadian provinces in their grid. You receive no more electricity from them than would spark a lighter.


http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/united-states-of-america/americannationalelectricitygrid.shtml
Pay particular attention to map 3 wilbur. If you dont get it, have someone explain it to you who is slightly less retarded than you are. I can see you do not undertand anything requiring facts or intellect.

You are dismissed, go over in the corner by your felching dish and lay down.

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Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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did the troll thank you? according to his own words, he's supposed to do that when someone "disabuses him" of his ignorance.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"The Sad Truths of Internet Trolls"

Having difficulty substantiating your ignorant post?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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Yup, you are a retard.

As of the end of 2015, Montana held nearly one-fourth of the nation's demonstrated coal reserve base and was the sixth-largest coal-producing state. It produced 4.7% of U.S. coal in 2015 and distributed coal to seven other states

Hydroelectric power provided almost one-third of Montana's net electricity generation in 2015 and wind energy provided most of the rest of the state's renewable generation.

Montanans use about half of the electricity generated in the state.90 The rest is sent to other western states by high-voltage transmission lines. Generating more electricity for sale in other states is seen as an economic opportunity for Montana, but current transmission lines are congested, and new capacity must be built to expand sales. Most of Montana is part of the Western Interconnection grid serving western states and Canadian provinces.91 Several transmission projects are being developed to increase capacity to move electricity from both conventional and renewable sources out of Montana to states in the west and southwest.

(from your link)


You are too retarded (and we are not arguing, you have no facts to argue) to understand that in upstate NY, you dont get a fucking milliwatt of electricity from no coal fired plant in Montana.

Nnanji (not wilbur) who lives in upstate NY. LOL, you changed your sock profile again wilbur, back to california, wilbur.

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Oh, and I wasn't talking about stored energy. Down in the basement of every energy company in the U.S. Is a group of people trying to balance their loads. They buy and sell electricity back and forth 24/7. The best source of extra energy is the coal plants. The extra energy mostly used in my area is bought from a coal plant in Montana for instance.

They are not in basements and Montana is one million people. And they dont ship shit to CA in any case it is used up in Oregon. They produce twice the electricity they need. They are just getting into the southwest, and ship and have shipped the electricity west. 11 states and 2 canadian provinces in their grid. You receive no more electricity from them than would spark a lighter.


http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/national_energy_grid/united-states-of-america/americannationalelectricitygrid.shtml
Pay particular attention to map 3 wilbur. If you dont get it, have someone explain it to you who is slightly less retarded than you are. I can see you do not undertand anything requiring facts or intellect.

You are dismissed, go over in the corner by your felching dish and lay down.

However, as I'm in California and not upstate N.Y., you're full of shit and arguing my point. Now you are dismissed, go do what ever disgusting thing you do.