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Preach that coal, its a growth industry.

Typewriters and VHS have been treated rather shabbily by the 'free-market' too. Do something, nutsuckers.

Stalin and Mao etc seized and centralized control over every sector of their respective economies and millions died as a direct result, today's Democrats endeavor to follow those same exact footsteps

With women, children, minorities and the elderly always hit hardest

So, VHS, typewriters and coal. Or millions will die as a direct result.

You dont think that in Stalin and Mao's case it was that they ordered millions of executions then? We are looking for a little more exacting footsteps and a lot less factless nutsucker felchgobbling.

Thanks for the pants shitting though, thats how we know you are still breathing, snowflake.

The pants shitting occurs among the alt left trolls upon seeing the real poll results, after months of fake news poll editorials masked as hard news and their fake news poll predictions

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Preach that coal, its a growth industry.

Typewriters and VHS have been treated rather shabbily by the 'free-market' too. Do something, nutsuckers.

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Preach that coal, its a growth industry.

Typewriters and VHS have been treated rather shabbily by the 'free-market' too. Do something, nutsuckers.

great point mnottertroll---now just add in the part where the coal is being replaced by a product that is less expensive with better quality.

and if youre really good, you'll also point out how the government got involved in hurting the typewriter and vhs industries.

otherwise, just let that impotency shine through!

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Preach that coal, its a growth industry.

Typewriters and VHS have been treated rather shabbily by the 'free-market' too. Do something, nutsuckers.

great point mnottertroll---now just add in the part where the coal is being replaced by a product that is less expensive with better quality.

and if youre really good, you'll also point out how the government got involved in hurting the typewriter and vhs industries.

otherwise, just let that impotency shine through!

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Some here will be surprised to hear me say that solar energy is a viable option for individual homes to get them off the grid. However, on a large scale such as towns or cities, solar energy isn't very practical. Fossil fuels will be with us for a long time. Battery-powered cars might work but how far can they go till the battery runs out our need recharging? For long trips gasoline or diesel engines are the most efficient. And finally, ask yourself if you will be first in line to board a solar powered airplane or wind powered airplane.

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• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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You 'll be surprised that 19 % of a whole country's electrical power is supplied by wind and solar energy now, and growing.
The first solar powered airplane has completed a round the globe trip.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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You 'll be surprised that 19 % of a whole country's electrical power is supplied by wind and solar energy now, and growing.
The first solar powered airplane has completed a round the globe trip.

According to the Wiki, Germany's renewable energy sector provided over 25% of power requirements at the beginning of 2012. In 2011, PV energy production was 16% of the total renewable energy production, and wind was 40%. 56% of 25%, is 14%. Your 19% claim is likely more current, so I'm not really arguing that. Even at 19% of the total, how much of that is wind, and how much is solar? In the Wiki data, solar was 2/7, or 28.6% of the mix. At a combined 19%, if the mix is the same, you're talking about 5.44% of total energy production coming from solar.

Something tells me that MBC's claim isn't refuted by your claims at all.

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I posted a bunch of stuff on Germany's power sources in the "17 republicans" thread.

the articles didn't paint a rosy picture.

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I posted a bunch of stuff on Germany's power sources in the "17 republicans" thread.
the articles didn't paint a rosy picture.

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You 'll be surprised that 19 % of a whole country's electrical power is supplied by wind and solar energy now, and growing.

(Correct me if I'm wrong but....I believe he was kinda leaning on that whole 100% concept....sumpin tells me he'd probably even attest to your submittal if we could even see 65%).

The first solar powered airplane has completed a round the globe trip.

(So far they've had some difficult as to how to keep a reasonable supply of peanuts available for guests yet....and then there's that whole...."guests" issue as well).

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(Ya'll are aware {I'm certain} that not only does competition cause falling prices but that....EVERY time oil/coal and other "fuels" take the stage....Solar will (by default) "try harder".....yeah? Anyone not "get" this? Add in to this that if we dumped EVERY energy dollar we have in to solar {or wind or tides} that the demand curve {read: Costs} would push those prices HIGHER!!!!! ERGO....the BEST thing {anyone} can do as to lowering the price of solar {or wind....or tides or...} would be to PUSH fuel energy....in short....the BEST thing that could POSSIBLY happen as to solar pricing....would be to PUSH the alternatives...or...in this vernacular....the status quo).

This is Econ 101 folks.

(I'm here all week).

Econ 101, right.

So, if on board with that, then how to explain that government coddling of fossil fuel companies and innumerable subsidies and tax preferences and numerous wars fought and foreign intrusions of and domestic transportation hijacked by fossil fuel interests financed by the government for benefit of the fossil energy sector and their singular interest is any better or worse than if same support be given to non-fossil energy companies, minus all the wars and intrusions and resultant terrorism and world disturbance inherent therein?

If we want things to be fair or equitable on the playground, and, -as per Econ 101-, consider the full costs across the board, then let's have it out.

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Oh, and another thing from someone who has taken Econ 101 and Econ 404; the fossil fuel industry is about as far away from anything remotely resembling 'free market' as one could possibly imagine.

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~FR~

So, for the posters with knee jerk reactions and no reading . . .the article isn't about the status quo -- it's about the dynamic situation.

Things are changing.

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I dont know, but now that coal is the great shit for nutsuckers and you are bringing it back, you might create some buggy whip manufacturing jobs.

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You 'll be surprised that 19 % of a whole country's electrical power is supplied by wind and solar energy now, and growing.

(Correct me if I'm wrong but....I believe he was kinda leaning on that whole 100% concept....sumpin tells me he'd probably even attest to your submittal if we could even see 65%).

The first solar powered airplane has completed a round the globe trip.

(So far they've had some difficult as to how to keep a reasonable supply of peanuts available for guests yet....and then there's that whole...."guests" issue as well).

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(Ya'll are aware {I'm certain} that not only does competition cause falling prices but that....EVERY time oil/coal and other "fuels" take the stage....Solar will (by default) "try harder".....yeah? Anyone not "get" this? Add in to this that if we dumped EVERY energy dollar we have in to solar {or wind or tides} that the demand curve {read: Costs} would push those prices HIGHER!!!!! ERGO....the BEST thing {anyone} can do as to lowering the price of solar {or wind....or tides or...} would be to PUSH fuel energy....in short....the BEST thing that could POSSIBLY happen as to solar pricing....would be to PUSH the alternatives...or...in this vernacular....the status quo).

This is Econ 101 folks.

(I'm here all week).

Econ 101, right.

So, if on board with that, then how to explain that government coddling of fossil fuel companies and innumerable subsidies and tax preferences and numerous wars fought and foreign intrusions of and domestic transportation hijacked by fossil fuel interests financed by the government for benefit of the fossil energy sector and their singular interest is any better or worse than if same support be given to non-fossil energy companies, minus all the wars and intrusions and resultant terrorism and world disturbance inherent therein?

If we want things to be fair or equitable on the playground, and, -as per Econ 101-, consider the full costs across the board, then let's have it out.

uhmmm....it's all covered quite well....(above).