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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 12:12:18 PM   
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Worse, a lot of his base knows he's lying, and cuts him a lot of slack for it.

That's how little integrity people expect from their government these days.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 1:57:55 PM   
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Yep. That's a particularly pernicious form of the damage caused by constantly lowering the bar. Entropy erodes philosophies and ideologies as well as everything with a physical existence.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 2:26:52 PM   
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Worse, a lot of his base knows he's lying, and cuts him a lot of slack for it.

That's how little integrity people expect from their government these days.


It's war. The alt left is at war, we recognize that. Nothing matters to the left, nothing Obama or Hillary did or said moved a needle anywhere. Benghazi, Arab Spring, the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt... Syria, the IRS scandal, Operation Fast & Furious. Passing Obamascam in the dead of the night without letting anyone see it or debate it, after promising open government and accountability. Paid rioters assaulting citizens at campaign events, leftists assaulting old people at the GOP conventions as far back back as the Bush years. On and on. None of it mattered to you slimy bastards

Now we are supposed to believe your snake tears over this or that, things are suddenly supposed to matter again. You think you can turn it off and on like a light switch

It doesn't work that way. Trump fights back, that's what matters to us now. Not taking it anymore. Disassembling the Obama years and turning the clock back to freedom and capitalism, patriotism and Americana

"You can come along for the ride but you need to sit down and shut up in the back of the bus" - Barack Obama

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 2:32:57 PM   
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Yeah. At war. All by themselves.

It's a war in your own head. If you're looking for the cause, go back to Newt Gingrich deciding no compromise would be the way to govern, proving instead it's a way to halt any governance and bring the approval rating of Congress into the teens. The fucking teens!

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 2:40:10 PM   
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I have not read the Times article but it is aligned to what I think/observed. But they fell woefully short of calling the mad lying fuk of hideous orange aspect a complete Judas monster

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 2:46:44 PM   
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Yeah. At war. All by themselves.

It's a war in your own head. If you're looking for the cause, go back to Newt Gingrich deciding no compromise would be the way to govern, proving instead it's a way to halt any governance and bring the approval rating of Congress into the teens. The fucking teens!


Assign blame to George Washington like your black lobby victims. Assign blame to all whites generally. Nobody cares what insanity you leftist twits subscribe to

Newt Gingrich had zip zero zilch nada to do with the Obama years. This is exactly the issue, caught bloody red handed your corrupt masters can still do no wrong - "It was Newt Gingrich's fault".

And now you really expect us to give a rats ass about anything Trump does, when he has done nothing wrong, especially in comparison to your lord god dear leader motherfuckers

You are like third graders. Kindergartners, or worse.

You are totally insane


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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 5:13:28 PM   
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Right. It was all going so smoothly before Obama. Dems and Reps joined hands and sang Kubaya at the start of every session, then got busy working out bipartisan solutions to all our nation's challenges.

Reality has left the building. And your consciousness.


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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 5:49:13 PM   
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Right. It was all going so smoothly before Obama. Dems and Reps joined hands and sang Kubaya at the start of every session, then got busy working out bipartisan solutions to all our nation's challenges.

Reality has left the building. And your consciousness.




More kindergarten level reasoning. Blame someone else for your own behavior

How did Newt Gingrich force the Obama administration to involve itself in any of the serious scandals I posted above. How does Newt Gingrich make any of the Obama scandals okay, any of the violence leftists have been perpetrating okay

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 6:00:54 PM   
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More demonstration of non-existent reading comprehension.

If anyone ever points a gun to your head and says "Stick to the topic, or you die," say your prayers immediately. You won't be here long.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 6:11:46 PM   
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More demonstration of non-existent reading comprehension.

If anyone ever points a gun to your head and says "Stick to the topic, or you die," say your prayers immediately. You won't be here long.


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Bitches like a sharp menstruating twat about sticking to the topic while simultaneously derailing the topic



Another massive Obama scandal is breaking right now, Obama spied on Trump and his family for over a year. Used the NSA to gain political advantage. Our government, Democrats at the top levels, illegally spied on American citizens - and it had nothing to do with Russia

All of Obamas scandals mean literally nothing to "liberals". MAJOR, MAJOR scandals - nothing.

Yet you really expect us to join your hysteria about Trump, over nothing

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/3/2017 6:26:52 PM   
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Data vs. Hysteria.

That's the trouble when you reject data for "alternative facts."

Watch your blood pressure. It's the silent killer.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 6:18:12 AM   
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Excerpt from today's editorial:

Trump has no experience in politics; he’s never previously run for office or held a government position. So perhaps he was unaware that one of the hallmarks of the American system of government is that the president’s power to “fix” things unilaterally is constrained by an array of strong institutions — including the courts, the media, the permanent federal bureaucracy and Congress. Combined, they provide an essential defense against an imperial presidency.

Yet in his first weeks at the White House, President Trump has already sought to undermine many of those institutions. Those that have displayed the temerity to throw some hurdle in the way of a Trump objective have quickly felt the heat.

Consider Trump’s feud with the courts.

He has repeatedly questioned the impartiality and the motives of judges. For example, he attacked the jurists who ruled against his order excluding travelers from seven majority Muslim nations, calling one a “so-called judge” and later tweeting:

Just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. If something happens blame him and court system. People pouring in. Bad!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 5, 2017
It’s nothing new for presidents to disagree with court decisions. But Trump’s direct, personal attacks on judges’ integrity and on the legitimacy of the judicial system itself — and his irresponsible suggestion that the judiciary should be blamed for future terrorist attacks — go farther. They aim to undermine public faith in the third branch of government.

The courts are the last line of defense for the Constitution and the rule of law; that’s what makes them such a powerful buffer against an authoritarian leader. The president of the United States should understand that and respect it.

Other institutions under attack include:

1) The electoral process. Faced with certified election results showing that Hillary Clinton outpolled him by nearly 3 million votes, Trump repeated the unsubstantiated — and likely crackpot — assertion that Clinton’s supporters had duped local polling places with millions of fraudulent votes. In a democracy, the right to vote is the one check that the people themselves hold against their leaders; sowing distrust in elections is the kind of thing leaders do when they don’t want their power checked.

2) The intelligence community. After reports emerged that the Central Intelligence Agency believed Russia had tried to help Trump win, the president-elect’s transition team responded: “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.” It was a snarky, dismissive, undermining response — and the administration has continued to belittle the intelligence community and question its motives since then, while also leaking stories about possibly paring and restructuring its ranks. It is bizarre to watch Trump continue to tussle publicly with this particular part of the government, whose leaders he himself has appointed, as if he were still an outsider candidate raging against the machine. It’s unnerving too, given the intelligence services’ crucial role in protecting the country against hidden risks, assisting the U.S. military and helping inform Trump’s decisions.

3) The media. Trump has blistered the mainstream media for reporting that has cast him in a poor light, saying outlets concocted narratives based on nonexistent anonymous sources. In February he said that the “fake news” media will “never represent the people,” adding ominously: “And we’re going to do something about it.” His goal seems to be to defang the media watchdog by making the public doubt any coverage that accuses Trump of blundering or abusing his power.

4) Federal agencies. In addition to calling for agency budgets to be chopped by up to 30%, Trump appointed a string of Cabinet secretaries who were hostile to much of their agencies’ missions and the laws they’re responsible for enforcing. He has also proposed deep cuts in federal research programs, particularly in those related to climate change. It’s easier to argue that climate change isn’t real when you’re no longer collecting the data that documents it.

In a way, Trump represents a culmination of trends that have been years in the making.

Conservative talk radio hosts have long blasted federal judges as “activists” and regulators as meddlers in the economy, while advancing the myth of rampant election fraud. And gridlock in Washington has led previous presidents to try new ways to circumvent the checks on their power — witness President George W. Bush’s use of signing statements to invalidate parts of bills Congress passed, and President Obama’s aggressive use of executive orders when lawmakers balked at his proposals.
What’s uniquely threatening about Trump’s approach, though, is how many fronts he’s opened in this struggle for power and the vehemence with which he seeks to undermine the institutions that don’t go along.

It’s one thing to complain about a judicial decision or to argue for less regulation, but to the extent that Trump weakens public trust in essential institutions like the courts and the media, he undermines faith in democracy and in the system and processes that make it work.

Trump betrays no sense for the president’s place among the myriad of institutions in the continuum of governance. He seems willing to violate long-established political norms without a second thought, and he cavalierly rejects the civility and deference that allow the system to run smoothly.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 6:32:38 AM   
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Down to posting editorials now, from the MSM that has been at war against Republicans since before Nixon. You're one of the 20% of the population (or whatever) who still trusts those lying leftist bastards...

They are as trustworthy as a rusty tin can lid might be for use as a scalpel while performing delicate brain surgery

(I've got your editorial right here)



And I'm gonna call it, MSM 101 - what a coincidence

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RUSH ARCHIVE: I just want to give voice to it, and it is the way the Drive-Bys set the table every day no matter what. I call it the media hot take, which is the first reaction to any new bit of news. I’m gonna present this in non-chronological order just to illustrate the point. But when somebody discovered or learned or what have you, that Melania Trump hasn’t moved into the White House, “That doesn’t look good.” Mike Pence and his wife have rules about public appearances. “That’s not a normal look. That’s not a good look.” Trump has put a lot of highly successful businesspeople in his cabinet. “That doesn’t look good. That looks bad.”


Trump talked to businesses about keeping jobs in the U.S. before he was sworn in. “That looks bad.” Trump didn’t want to keep the Obama outdoor play set at the White House because there aren’t any little kids running around. “That certainly doesn’t look good for the children.” Ivanka Trump was photographed sitting at her father’s desk in the Oval Office. “That had to be wrong!” Trump tweets before sunrise. “That’s not normal.” Trump tweets that he believes he’s been illegally surveilled. “That doesn’t look good. That’s not right.” We get it. Whatever the story is — they set the stage before they even get into the opinion of the story by characterizing it as “That doesn’t look good.”

RUSH: Okay. So I did that basically off the top of my head, improv, it was just something that struck me the night before, the day before. So the crack team in Cookieville decided to find evidence of this, and, lo and behold, we have been able to put together another montage. We must have five or six of these montages. The first one was gravitas, Dick Cheney being chosen vice president for George W. Bush. We have lots of people in this montage, and this proves my observational skills and my point.


PHIL MATTINGLY: It just doesn’t look good. There’s no really other way to put it.
JASON CHAFFETZ: Well, it doesn’t look good.
STEPHEN HAYES: Certainly the process doesn’t look good.
ERIC SWALWELL: It doesn’t look good.
ROB SCHMITT: It just looks bad.
GERALDO RIVERA: It looks bad for the President. Very sloppy. Very heavy-handed.
LISA BOOTHE: (laughter) It sure doesn’t look good today.
JOSH ROGIN: It looks bad. It looks very bad.
JOHN KING: Again, uh, it looks bad.
MATTHEW ROSENBERG: We don’t know what they discussed, but this doesn’t look good.
DAGEN MCDOWELL: It is about the optics, and the way things look. It looks bad.
JIM WALSH: Like you, I am troubled by this, and I think it looks bad.
JUAN WILLIAMS: Obviously on the surface it just doesn’t look good.
EBONI WILLIAMS: It’s the appearance of impropriety. It just doesn’t look good.
JACKIE KUCINICH: It doesn’t look good. At the end of the day, that’s what we are faced with.
JACK KINGSTON: It doesn’t mean the game’s over but it doesn’t look good for the home team.
RUSH: There you have it, another montage uncovered by me and our observational skills.


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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 6:34:04 AM   
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And yet you're still unable to refute any of the points.

You've got attacks and red herrings. Nothing else. As usual.

Very boring. Sad.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 6:37:41 AM   
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And yet you're still unable to refute any of the points.

You've got attacks and red herrings. Nothing else. As usual.

Very boring. Sad.


The "points" have all been hashed out and refuted a thousand times. That's an old fake news omelette, probably had it ready to run whenever some good news broke out for Team Trump

Such as the Rice expose, proving that President Trump was entirely correct regarding Obama's wiretapping him

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 6:48:25 AM   
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I see it's a comprehension problem.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 6:53:57 AM   
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I see it's a comprehension problem.


The problem is, there are still one or two moronic twats out there who still believe in the lying MSM and blindly fawn over every propaganda article they put out

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 7:16:49 AM   
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It's got to be hard to continue to be a partisan hack in this environment. Neither major party has any clear message, and when your party controls Congress and the White House and STILL can't enact an agenda, it's gotta hurt trying to prop up that failure 24/7.

Fwiw, I don't know anyone who takes MSNBC seriously, no more than anyone reads Mother Jones or the New Yorker and expects a conservative slant. You are the only person I know who takes Breitbart seriously. FOX facilitates between being news and being a conservative mouthpiece.

But when we're looking at facts, data, actual events, the source doesn't make them go away.

That's the trouble with reality. It insists on continuing to be real.

Even the GOP leadership knows this is a clusterfuck.

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 7:27:51 AM   
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Unlike Obama, this president is doing exactly what he promised to do, even the far left AP had to admit that

And that's why people like you and the editors at the LA Times, all of the Obama sycophants are firing both barrels nonstop trying to slow his charge

But he just keeps going

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RE: LA Times Editorial Board runs scathing series on Trump - 4/4/2017 7:32:24 AM   
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His EOs will be overwritten in short order.

But he is not doing what he promised to do in the main.

Just the nutsucker shit. All the other shit he lied about he has done the opposite of.

The whitehouse is felchgobbling and nutsucking the story.

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/89ae8247abe8493fae24405546e9a1aa/Article_2017-04-03-US--Trump-Undoing%20Obama/id-c4fa9fa659394514aa645a7cfd3c31ed

nothing destructive about the policies but the destruction is coming from nutsuckers.

If by drain the swamp he means get them all in the administration so they all can be impeached, imprisoned, tried for treason and so on, then hes keeping that promise.

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