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MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/17/2017 8:00:53 PM)


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Of course Republicans and Democrats on the actual committee that Devin Nunes used to chair, who have actually SEEN the surveillance documents continue to say that our President, Newt Gingrich, and the whole Fox echo chamber are full of shit.

Click here for article.


Far left NBC and far left CNN, unnamed sources... [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

Had it been Bush / Cheney spying on the Obama campaign you wouldn't be going out of your way to find partisan propaganda websites that make excuses and cover the spying up, or claim that it's okay for a president to spy on opposition political campaigns

You would be screaming for blood


Can you point to a single NBC story that has been proven to be factually incorrect?


I didn't think so.

Republicans say they are full of shit. Democrats say they are full of shit. The entire House Intelligence committee says they are full of shit. All this right-wing hysteria over nonsense.




BoscoX -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/17/2017 8:19:16 PM)

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Of course Republicans and Democrats on the actual committee that Devin Nunes used to chair, who have actually SEEN the surveillance documents continue to say that our President, Newt Gingrich, and the whole Fox echo chamber are full of shit.

Click here for article.


Far left NBC and far left CNN, unnamed sources... [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

Had it been Bush / Cheney spying on the Obama campaign you wouldn't be going out of your way to find partisan propaganda websites that make excuses and cover the spying up, or claim that it's okay for a president to spy on opposition political campaigns

You would be screaming for blood


Can you point to a single NBC story that has been proven to be factually incorrect?


What I wrote was "propaganda"

And I gotta say, DAMN - it you aren't aware by now that television news is mostly propaganda you need to start paying attention because that is a very basic and widely acknowledged fact

As for some of their most blatant propaganda - start with the Billy Bush tape. NBC held the infamous 'Grab 'em by the pussy' tape for years and years, then released it just prior to the election in an obvious bid to put the Hillary campaign over the top

Then flip over to Saturday Night Live, and watch as the network "hilariously" portrays Sean Spicer as a 'faggot' or a dyke, or whatever you choose to call their smear campaign portrayal

From there, take your pick

They don't report the news, they create it




BoscoX -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/17/2017 8:24:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

Of course Republicans and Democrats on the actual committee that Devin Nunes used to chair, who have actually SEEN the surveillance documents continue to say that our President, Newt Gingrich, and the whole Fox echo chamber are full of shit.

Click here for article.


Far left NBC and far left CNN, unnamed sources... [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

Had it been Bush / Cheney spying on the Obama campaign you wouldn't be going out of your way to find partisan propaganda websites that make excuses and cover the spying up, or claim that it's okay for a president to spy on opposition political campaigns

You would be screaming for blood


Can you point to a single NBC story that has been proven to be factually incorrect?


I didn't think so.

Republicans say they are full of shit. Democrats say they are full of shit. The entire House Intelligence committee says they are full of shit. All this right-wing hysteria over nonsense.


You would be singing a different tune had the Bush / Cheney team used Homeland Security to "wiretap" the Obama campaign

The screams from the Soros-financed riots, the media hyped howls of outrage would still be echoing in the streets today

But you are too partisan to even acknowledge that reality, much less respond to the assertion




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/17/2017 8:42:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

Of course Republicans and Democrats on the actual committee that Devin Nunes used to chair, who have actually SEEN the surveillance documents continue to say that our President, Newt Gingrich, and the whole Fox echo chamber are full of shit.

Click here for article.


Far left NBC and far left CNN, unnamed sources... [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

Had it been Bush / Cheney spying on the Obama campaign you wouldn't be going out of your way to find partisan propaganda websites that make excuses and cover the spying up, or claim that it's okay for a president to spy on opposition political campaigns

You would be screaming for blood


Can you point to a single NBC story that has been proven to be factually incorrect?


I didn't think so.

Republicans say they are full of shit. Democrats say they are full of shit. The entire House Intelligence committee says they are full of shit. All this right-wing hysteria over nonsense.


You would be singing a different tune had the Bush / Cheney team used Homeland Security to "wiretap" the Obama campaign



Not if the Obama campaign was colluding with the Russians to undermine U.S. foreign policy.

But since we now know that this is all right wing hysteria, and there is nothing at all to suggest Obama had ANYTHING to with this. It is a moot point.




BoscoX -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/17/2017 9:00:45 PM)


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Not if the Obama campaign was colluding with the Russians to undermine U.S. foreign policy.

But since we now know that this is all right wing hysteria, and there is nothing at all to suggest Obama had ANYTHING to with this. It is a moot point.



Bullshit

I have already proved to you that both Hillary and Obama colluded with the Russians, one for political gain and the other for financial gain. This, while no such thing has been proven about President Trump

Except in your opinion blogs, which you quote but are too embarrassed of them to link to them

You ignore the facts whenever they are inconvenient to your prejudged, hyper partisan, blinkered worldview

If the facts don't fit your predetermined far left template, then you simply refuse to see them





Lucylastic -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/17/2017 9:10:27 PM)

youve proven you are a sharia sheep sean, but you certainly havent proven anything regarding anyone in the prev admin.
not an iota




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/18/2017 4:33:00 AM)

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Not if the Obama campaign was colluding with the Russians to undermine U.S. foreign policy.

But since we now know that this is all right wing hysteria, and there is nothing at all to suggest Obama had ANYTHING to with this. It is a moot point.



Bullshit

I have already proved to you that both Hillary and Obama colluded with the Russians, one for political gain and the other for financial gain. This, while no such thing has been proven about President Trump

Except in your opinion blogs, which you quote but are too embarrassed of them to link to them

You ignore the facts whenever they are inconvenient to your prejudged, hyper partisan, blinkered worldview

If the facts don't fit your predetermined far left template, then you simply refuse to see them





1. You proved NOTHING. (And I mean literally nothing). You repeated a quote that Obama said to the Russian FM that he would have more flexibility after the election. You cited the Rosotom Uranium mining deal, in which the State Department was one of 9 agencies approving it. Yes, IMO, it was pure corruption on Hillary's part. (Certainly not undermining foreign policy). If you want to say that Hilary was corrupt. I agree. Next! (Or is that in my "predetermined far left template"???)

2. You keep citing these non-existent opinion blogs. I don't read opinion blogs. I was just citing very WIDELY reported fact, that I have known about for months. My words are MY words (not the words of some opinion blog).

3. Your Newsbusters site is rather amusing. It does nothing to refute ANYTHING. Rather, it is a laundry list of right wing, snowflake, whining about coverage. As I said, earlier... You cannot point to a single factually incorrect story from NBC, CNN, or anyone else. All you can do is whine about the coverage.

"SNL is being mean to my idol, Sean Spicer..... Wahhhhh"




BoscoX -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/18/2017 7:58:47 AM)


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Not if the Obama campaign was colluding with the Russians to undermine U.S. foreign policy.

But since we now know that this is all right wing hysteria, and there is nothing at all to suggest Obama had ANYTHING to with this. It is a moot point.



Bullshit

I have already proved to you that both Hillary and Obama colluded with the Russians, one for political gain and the other for financial gain. This, while no such thing has been proven about President Trump

Except in your opinion blogs, which you quote but are too embarrassed of them to link to them

You ignore the facts whenever they are inconvenient to your prejudged, hyper partisan, blinkered worldview

If the facts don't fit your predetermined far left template, then you simply refuse to see them





1. You proved NOTHING. (And I mean literally nothing). You repeated a quote that Obama said to the Russian FM that he would have more flexibility after the election. You cited the Rosotom Uranium mining deal, in which the State Department was one of 9 agencies approving it. Yes, IMO, it was pure corruption on Hillary's part. (Certainly not undermining foreign policy). If you want to say that Hilary was corrupt. I agree. Next! (Or is that in my "predetermined far left template"???)

2. You keep citing these non-existent opinion blogs. I don't read opinion blogs. I was just citing very WIDELY reported fact, that I have known about for months. My words are MY words (not the words of some opinion blog).

3. Your Newsbusters site is rather amusing. It does nothing to refute ANYTHING. Rather, it is a laundry list of right wing, snowflake, whining about coverage. As I said, earlier... You cannot point to a single factually incorrect story from NBC, CNN, or anyone else. All you can do is whine about the coverage.

"SNL is being mean to my idol, Sean Spicer..... Wahhhhh"


Try again when you can finally manage to act like an adult, and recognize your own rabid partisanship

You and everyone else on the far, far left would still be raging today, if your opinion blogs had preached to you that "That mean old George Bush and Dick Cheney spied on Barack Obama's campaign for John McSame"




Nnanji -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/18/2017 8:20:59 AM)


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What facts are there? Speculation by L. O'Donnell and a like-minded panel are now facts?


WEll, derp, Id rather see what O donnell actually said, not how breitbart spins it..
dumbarse.
those are the facts, what he said, as opposed to spin.
sorry you dont get that.
I said clearly at the beginning of the post
see the conspiracy via msnbc


jumped on the ass bus again.


Right. Because O'Donnell never spins things...sort of like Maddow...or Don Lemon.



Her bizarre looney conspiracy theory copy & paste fits perfectly into her jello-brained faggot meme cartoon world where news and information is found on propagandized comedy shows

Of course, then she expects one of her leftie boys to come and finish her arguments for her as she's generally unable to think of anything other than an insult.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (4/18/2017 6:25:29 PM)

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Try again when you can finally manage to act like an adult, and recognize your own rabid partisanship

You and everyone else on the far, far left would still be raging today, if your opinion blogs had preached to you that "That mean old George Bush and Dick Cheney spied on Barack Obama's campaign for John McSame"



I KNOW you know better than this. Yet you keep saying it.

1. You keep calling me a rabid, hyper-partisan. I am as far the opposite of that as I could be. I am disgusted with the Democratic party, and their commitment to Hilary Clinton over country (and their embracing of blind liberalism). If I ever became a partisan, it would be as a Republican (a John Kasich, (maybe Ron Paul?) Republican). Unfortunately, the Republican party has been taken over by Corporatist hyper-partisan Assholes (e.g. Mitch McConnell), Far right ideologues (e.g. Jim Jordon), Alt-right assholes (e,g, Steve King), or just outright complete dumbasses (e.g. Louie Gohmert, and often (but not always) John McCain). (oh and let's not forget the idiotic Neocons (e.g. Lindsey Graham, John McCain). To call me "Far Left" is ridiculous in the truest sense of the word

2. I have no idea of what opinion blogs you speak. I simply don't read them.




bounty44 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 5:39:32 AM)

"Susan Rice Refuses to Testify Before Congress"

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Former National Security Advisor during the Obama administration, Susan Rice, will not testify before a Senate subcommittee regarding Russian activities during the 2016 presidential election, according to Fox News. [oh no comrades, townhall AND fox news!]

According to a letter sent to the Senate by Rice’s lawyer, she refused to testify because the senior Democrat on the subcommittee was not involved in the invitation.

“Senator Whitehouse has informed us by letter that he did not agree to Chairman Graham’s invitation to Ambassador Rice, a significant departure from the bipartisan investigations extended to other witnesses,” Rice’s lawyer wrote in the letter first reported by CNN. “Under these circumstances, Ambassador Rice respectfully declines Senator Graham’s invitation to testify.”

However, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Rice should reconsider her decision not to testify.

"I think she ought to consider it," Feinstein told MSNBC on Wednesday.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2017/05/03/susan-rice-refuses-to-testify-before-congress-n2321960




bounty44 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 5:42:20 AM)

some very helpful information in the larger scheme of things:

"More Spying and More Lying"

(oh no comrades some townhall plaster!)

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Late last week, President Donald Trump told CBS News that domestic surveillance of American citizens should be the "No. 1" topic of inquiry until we can find out "what the hell is going on" with it. Also late last week, the National Security Agency -- the federal government's 60,000-person-strong domestic spying agency -- announced that it would voluntarily hold back on its more aggressive uses of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

That section permits the NSA to capture communications between foreigners and Americans without a warrant from any court, even though the NSA has its own secret court that has granted well over 99 percent of applications for spying brought to it.

Yet the NSA has convinced the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that when it captures the communications of a foreigner and an American and those communications refer to a third person who is an American, Section 702 extends the authority for warrantless spying to that third person, as well. And it extends to any person whom the third person is talking about -- and so forth, out to the sixth level of communication.

If you do the math, this NSA-concocted, Section 702-generated, secret FISA court-approved logic permits warrantless spying on nearly everyone in the United States. So why did the NSA announce that it will pull back on the way it utilizes Section 702 as the basis for its mass spying?

Here is the back story.

FISA was written in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, which involved illegal domestic spying. The purpose of FISA was to insert the judiciary between the NSA and its targets so as to ensure that there would be a consistent legal basis for the spying. What was that basis?

The Supreme Court has long characterized domestic spying as surveillance, and it has characterized surveillance as either a "search" or a "seizure" of communications. The Fourth Amendment requires judicially issued warrants for all government searches and seizures, and it mandates that those search warrants be based on probable cause of wrongdoing on the part of the person whom the government wishes to surveil and that the warrants themselves specifically describe the place to be searched or the person or thing to be seized.

Yet government lawyers, who have no opposition standing next to them when they appear in the FISA court, have convinced the court that the constitutional requirement of probable cause only applies to the government when it is engaging in law enforcement, not when it seeks intelligence data. So when the NSA asks the FISA court for authority to conduct surveillance, the FISA court complies, and it does so with warrants that do not specifically describe the place to be searched or the person or thing to be seized. These warrants typically authorize spying by ZIP codes or area codes or street addresses or telecommunications companies' customer lists.

What the NSA does not tell the FISA court is that its requests for approvals are a sham. That's because the NSA relies on vague language in a 35-year-old executive order, known as EO 12333, as authority to conduct mass surveillance. That's surveillance of everyone -- and it does capture the content of every telephone conversation, as well as every keystroke on every computer and all fiber-optic data generated everywhere within, coming to and going from the United States.

This is not only profoundly unlawful but also profoundly deceptive. It is unlawful because it violates the Fourth Amendment. It is deceptive because Congress and the courts and the American people, perhaps even the president, think that the FISA court has been serving as a buffer for the voracious appetite of the NSA. In reality, the NSA, while dispatching lawyers to make sophisticated arguments to the FISA court, has gone behind the court's back by spying on everyone all the time.

In a memo from a now-former NSA director to his agents and vendors, leaked to the public, he advised capturing all data from everyone all the time. This produces information overload, as there is more data than can be analyzed; each year, it produces the equivalent of 27 times the contents of the Library of Congress. Therefore, safety -- as well as liberty -- is compromised.

The recent mass killings in Boston, San Bernardino and Orlando were all preceded by text messages and cellphone conversations between the killers and their confederates. The NSA had the digital versions of those texts and conversations, but it had not analyzed them until after the killings -- because it has and has had too much data to analyze in a critical and timely manner.

So, why did the NSA announce that it is pulling back from its customary uses of Section 702? To give the false impression to members of Congress that it follows the law. Section 702, the great subterfuge, expires at the end of this year, and the NSA, which has spied on Donald Trump since before he was president, fears the debate that will accompany the efforts to renew it -- hence its softening public tone.

The genius of the Fourth Amendment is that it serves as a two-edged sword. By requiring probable cause before judges can issue warrants to agents for surveillance, the amendment both protects the privacy of those uninvolved in wrongdoing by leaving them alone and compels federal agents to focus their appetite for intelligence and their need for evidence on only those they legitimately feel may have done wrong.

In the meantime, Trump knows that he has been the victim of overzealous and unlawful surveillance, and we can expect during the debate over renewal of Section 702 that he will have a more sober and constitutional view of all this than his predecessors have; and that may bring about more freedom and more safety.


https://townhall.com/columnists/judgeandrewnapolitano/2017/05/04/more-spying-and-more-lying-n2321645




bounty44 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 5:43:22 AM)

double post...




mnottertail -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 6:07:27 AM)

http://intelligence.house.gov/fisa-702/
https://fas.org/irp/news/2013/06/nsa-sect702.pdf

So...........no

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12333.html

sec 2.3

.3Collection of Information. Agencies within the Intelligence Community are authorized to collect, retain or disseminate information concerning United States persons only in accordance with procedures established by the head of the agency concerned and approved by the Attorney General, consistent with the authorities provided by Part 1 of this Order. Those procedures shall permit collection, retention and dissemination of the following types of information:
(a) Information that is publicly available or collected with the consent of the person concerned;
(b) Information constituting foreign intelligence or counterintelligence, including such information concerning corporations or other commercial organizations. Collection within the United States of foreign intelligence not otherwise obtainable shall be undertaken by the FBI or, when significant foreign intelligence is sought, by other authorized agencies of the Intelligence Community, provided that no foreign intelligence collection by such agencies may be undertaken for the purpose of acquiring information concerning the domestic activities of United States persons;
(c) Information obtained in the course of a lawful foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, international narcotics or international terrorism investigation;
(d) Information needed to protect the safety of any persons or organizations, including those who are targets, victims or hostages of international terrorist organizations;
(e) Information needed to protect foreign intelligence or counterintelligence sources or methods from unauthorized disclosure. Collection within the United States shall be undertaken by the FBI except that other agencies of the Intelligence Community may also collect such information concerning present or former employees, present or former intelligence agency contractors or their present or former employees, or applicants for any such employment or contracting;
(f) Information concerning persons who are reasonably believed to be potential sources or contacts for the purpose of determining their suitability or credibility;
(g) Information arising out of a lawful personnel, physical or communications security investigation;
(h) Information acquired by overhead reconnaissance not directed at specific United States persons;
(i) Incidentally obtained information that may indicate involvement in activities that may violate federal, state, local or foreign laws; and
(j) Information necessary for administrative purposes.
In addition, agencies within the Intelligence Community may disseminate information, other than information derived from signals intelligence, to each appropriate agency within the Intelligence Community for purposes of allowing the recipient agency to determine whether the information is relevant to its responsibilities and can be retained by it.


So..........no

Alt-right nutsuckers are shitting their pants and unhinged.

LOL. Felchgobbling is their stock in trade.




bounty44 -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 6:25:39 AM)

from my post:

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That's because the NSA relies on vague language in a 35-year-old executive order, known as EO 12333, as authority to conduct mass surveillance.


all you did was provide the language in the executive order, without addressing the charge of how the NSA uses the language in the order, that is, what vagueness might exist that is exploitable for their purposes.

maybe some more "felchgobbles" will make up for your inability to reason??

and never mind that you ignored the rest of the substantive parts of the post...

you really suck at this don't you?








Lucylastic -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 6:47:00 AM)

I bet she does not offer testimony for immunity.

And I bet all the Repubs OR Dems will not flail and ignore questions from the press or constiutuents about it or recuse themselves, like the Scrotus and members are doing with the Flynn clusterfuck(Nunes, Sessions, Chaffetz etc)




Lucylastic -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 7:06:13 AM)


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What facts are there? Speculation by L. O'Donnell and a like-minded panel are now facts?


WEll, derp, Id rather see what O donnell actually said, not how breitbart spins it..
dumbarse.
those are the facts, what he said, as opposed to spin.
sorry you dont get that.
I said clearly at the beginning of the post
see the conspiracy via msnbc


jumped on the ass bus again.


Right. Because O'Donnell never spins things...sort of like Maddow...or Don Lemon.



Her bizarre looney conspiracy theory copy & paste fits perfectly into her jello-brained faggot meme cartoon world where news and information is found on propagandized comedy shows

Of course, then she expects one of her leftie boys to come and finish her arguments for her as she's generally unable to think of anything other than an insult.

and yet, you have added nothing but insults, including non topic insults.
as usual.




BoscoX -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 7:12:04 AM)

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"Susan Rice Refuses to Testify Before Congress"

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Former National Security Advisor during the Obama administration, Susan Rice, will not testify before a Senate subcommittee regarding Russian activities during the 2016 presidential election, according to Fox News. [oh no comrades, townhall AND fox news!]

According to a letter sent to the Senate by Rice’s lawyer, she refused to testify because the senior Democrat on the subcommittee was not involved in the invitation.

“Senator Whitehouse has informed us by letter that he did not agree to Chairman Graham’s invitation to Ambassador Rice, a significant departure from the bipartisan investigations extended to other witnesses,” Rice’s lawyer wrote in the letter first reported by CNN. “Under these circumstances, Ambassador Rice respectfully declines Senator Graham’s invitation to testify.”

However, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Rice should reconsider her decision not to testify.

"I think she ought to consider it," Feinstein told MSNBC on Wednesday.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/justinholcomb/2017/05/03/susan-rice-refuses-to-testify-before-congress-n2321960


Same story on Politico:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/03/susan-rice-testify-237947

By the alt lefts own standards that can mean only one thing - jail all Democrats until the end of time




mnottertail -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 7:12:56 AM)

By the felchgobblers own standards, the Il Douchovitch administration is guilty to the last man.




BoscoX -> RE: Far Left CNN Unhinged Over New Susan Rice Scandal (5/4/2017 7:22:01 AM)


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By the felchgobblers own standards, the Il Douchovitch administration is guilty to the last man.


ManiacalMysery calls this repetitive childish gibberish "sharp" [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]




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