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WickedsDesire -> May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 4:00:32 AM)

UK Prime Minister Theresa May has announced plans to call a snap general election on 8 June.


Unelected UK Prime Minister Theresa May has announced plans to call a snap general election on 8 June.

She the un elected Englishire jackal said Britainshire needed certainty, stability and strong leadership following the EU referendum.

Explaining the decision, Mrs May said: "The country is coming together but Westminster is not." (WTF)

There will be a Commons vote on the proposed election on Wednesday - Labour have said they will vote with the government.

The prime minister unelected jackal needs Parliament's the circus backing to hold a vote before the next scheduled date of 2020.

"I have only recently and reluctantly come to this conclusion. Since I became prime minister I've said there should be no election until 2020, but now I have concluded that the only way to guarantee certainty and security for the years ahead is to hold this election and seek your support for the decisions we must take."

In a statement outside Number 10, Mrs May said Labour had threatened to vote against the final Brexit agreement, the Liberal Democrats had stated they wanted to "grind the business of government to a standstill", the SNP had said they would vote against the negotiations and "unelected" members of the House of Lords had vowed "to fight us every step of the way".

So does that mean the unelected jackals reasons for not wishing to grant a handsome Scottishire jackals Independence referendum were the usual pack of lies.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 4:20:18 AM)

Such a tainted and biased PoV WD.

Let me re-write that for you with a little modicum of truth....
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

UK Prime Minister Theresa May has announced plans to call a snap general election on 8 June.


UnelectedElected by government UK Prime Minister Theresa May has announced plans to call a snap general election on 8 June.

She the un government elected Englishire jackalPrime Minister said Britainshire needed certainty, stability and strong leadership following the EU referendum.

Explaining the decision, Mrs May said: "The country is coming together but Westminster is not." (being Scottish, I don't understand. WTF)

There will be a Commons vote on the proposed election on Wednesday - Labour have said they will vote with the government.

The prime minister unelected jackal needs Parliament's the circus backing to hold a vote before the next scheduled date of 2020.

"I have only recently and reluctantly come to this conclusion. Since I became prime minister I've said there should be no election until 2020, but now I have concluded that the only way to guarantee certainty and security for the years ahead is to hold this election and seek your support for the decisions we must take."

In a statement outside Number 10, Mrs May said Labour had threatened to vote against the final Brexit agreement, the Liberal Democrats had stated they wanted to "grind the business of government to a standstill", the SNP had said they would vote against the negotiations and "unelected" members of the House of Lords had vowed "to fight us every step of the way".

So does that mean the unelected jackalsmembers of parliament reasons for not wishing to grant a handsome Scottishire jackals Independence referendum were the usual pack of liesunreal expectations.




WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 4:39:05 AM)

Naughty devil there was no bias in my writing, never is you know - if you wished to be absolutely pedantic the only bias in that writing is the word handsome…all words changed were clearly highlighted and link given to the original article – and not from a particularly biased website, or one of em fake/bias news sites many people seem to draw their information from these days

Now, your rewrite is a biased piece of work – are you telling me it was Theresa May or elected Members of (UK) Parliament who said no to a Scottish referendum - despite it being the wish of the Scottish parliament who are incidentally are elected by proportional representation - and what reasons did she(may) give? guffaws
Oh and that Independence referendum will be going ahead – heh do you get the vote down there for that one?


WTF = what the fek, even I know that one. Irony and humour aside I can actually write the article with bias – then you can resend that post, well as long as you remove your lying line and i will overlook the un-elected aspect too and its mportance as that will completely lose most Americans and indeed most British folks....and who said i couldnt be more than nice - that reminds me where did I put that bucket of piranhas.


Heh so why did she call the election, really? guffaws



WhoreMods -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 4:46:30 AM)

Maybe she's hoping that some of the Scots who've ran out of patience with the SNP over the last couple of years will vote out a few of Salmond's stooges and replace them with conservative MPs? There's been quite a bit of talk about a big conservative push north of the border, believe it or not, and they only need to elect one to double their share of Holyrood, don't they?
[;)]



PeonForHer -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 4:55:23 AM)

FR
At this point, all I can say is 'Oh, bollocks'. Brexit was 'out of the frying pan, into the fire'. Where to after that ... is there a furnace nearby?



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:00:00 AM)

For those in bubble verse
Scotland share of the UK parliament is 59 Mp's from the total of 650. Of those 59 MPs the political parties have the following share:
SNP 56
Labour 1 guffaws guffaws
LibDem 1 who are these guys again? sniggers
Conservative 1 guffaws

Ah Holyrood= Scottish Parliament, is different. 129 members known as Members of the Scottish Parliament (MSPs) But because we have proportional representation then you get a more accurate balance.

Scottish National Party 63
Scottish Conservative & Unionist Party 31
Scottish Labour 23
Scottish Green Party 6
Scottish Liberal Democrats 5
No Party Affiliation 1



susie -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:04:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR
At this point, all I can say is 'Oh, bollocks'. Brexit was 'out of the frying pan, into the fire'. Where to after that ... is there a furnace nearby?


I think there will be a whole lot of people saying "oh, bollocks" today.



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:04:59 AM)

i was reading today the Conservatives have a 20 point lead on labour. Due to the UK barmy electoral system this would translate to about a 3 digit majority in the Houses of Parliament.

20 point lead ffs what are you English jackals playing at down there guffaws

is a bit of a mess this whole BREXIT thingy, How dsliked is that labour guy whats his name corben or something

It would be far more fun if Sturgeon triggered - declared article 30 under the Scotland act. besides our MSPs have already passed a motion to open dialogue regarding triggering a second Independence referendum....Fuk it I bet we do it ourselves guffaws guffaws open revolt

What did Theresa May say to that guffaws



WhoreMods -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:23:50 AM)

My bad, WD: I'd confused the Scots contingent of the mother of all parliaments with Holyrood.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:25:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Naughty devil there was no bias in my writing, never is you know - if you wished to be absolutely pedantic the only bias in that writing is the word handsome…all words changed were clearly highlighted and link given to the original article – and not from a particularly biased website, or one of em fake/bias news sites many people seem to draw their information from these days

Granted. I also view the BBC to be a lot less biased than many others.
But, the words you wrote were very biased.
And many outside of the UK can't view BBC articles unles they get posted on the .COM portion of the website.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Now, your rewrite is a biased piece of work – are you telling me it was Theresa May or elected Members of (UK) Parliament who said no to a Scottish referendum - despite it being the wish of the Scottish parliament who are incidentally are elected by proportional representation - and what reasons did she(may) give? guffaws

You, like many Scottish jackals, fail to realise that you have NO SAY in your Independence Referendum without the approval of the Westminster parliament.
You can't have your referendum without us English granting you permission to have one.
And no, we don't have to give you any reason whatsoever.
If the PM of the day doesn't give you permission, your only option is to go to war with the rest of the UK.
It doesn't matter if 100% of Scotland wants it, you are only about 5 million people and a very small part (less than 8%) of the 65+ million that makes up the uk; majority wins here whether you like it or not.

And yes, PM May was elected by the conservative MP's; that's how they work in a leadership battle.
The fact that Hollyrood has been given permission for you to have your elections as you do, is purely down to the English government who has granted that privilege.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Oh and that Independence referendum will be going ahead – heh do you get the vote down there for that one?

It won't be recognised by the rest of the UK - whether you win or lose, it won't count for nothing.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
WTF = what the fek, even I know that one. Irony and humour aside I can actually write the article with bias – then you can resend that post, well as long as you remove your lying line and i will overlook the un-elected aspect too and its mportance as that will completely lose most Americans and indeed most British folks....and who said i couldnt be more than nice - that reminds me where did I put that bucket of piranhas.

There was no lie in my correction of your biased post.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Heh so why did she call the election, really? guffaws

As far as I can tell, it's an ideal time and opportunity to possibly gain a bigger majority.
At least that's what the political pundits are reporting so far.


ETA -
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
It would be far more fun if Sturgeon triggered - declared article 30 under the Scotland act. besides our MSPs have already passed a motion to open dialogue regarding triggering a second Independence referendum....Fuk it I bet we do it ourselves guffaws guffaws open revolt

What did Theresa May say to that guffaws


Again, article 30 doesn't give the Scotts permission to call a referendum.
It just allows you to ask if you can have one.
If the PM says NO, that's the end of it.

And according to many being interviewed as I type this, many in Scotland don't want another election or a referendum vote.
So, it seems you are in a minority. [:D]



WhoreMods -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:27:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
The fact that Hollyrood has been given permission for you to have your elections as you do, is purely down to the English government who has granted that privilege.

The Scottish Tony Blair, in fact.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:32:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
The fact that Hollyrood has been given permission for you to have your elections as you do, is purely down to the English government who has granted that privilege.

The Scottish Tony Blair, in fact.

Down to the PM of the day - regardless of nationality.
If it weren't for the English government, you wouldn't have that privilege.

You can blame all your woes on King James VI of Scotland who signed away all your rights to the English parliament in 1606.



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:38:25 AM)

My words were equally biased (well i call that humour and irony etc but no matter) rendering it a non biased..Scottishire Englishire & jackals were used fairly. She was also unelected - as was Smith - you believe i would say anything different no matter the "party"

And we can certainly carry out that election without Theresa May Consent "UK parliaments consent" (really they all said no did they - not one of them were asked so stop being a lying fuk or idiot)


Heh Freedomworf1 gonna tell me what the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 is? guffaws guffaws

or who said Theresa May's election U-turn

"The next General Election should be in 2020." " I am not going to call a snap election" and so onguffaws guffaws

The words of Theresa May who has just executed an enormous political reversal.
For months she and her team have played down the prospect of an early poll.
The reasons were simple. They didn't want to cause instability during Brexit negotiations.
They didn't want to go through the technical process of getting round the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 5:54:36 AM)

I knew what you meant..sometimes i forget to types "MSPs" which is easily confused with "MPs"

Good joke though and true too. But Labour are not doing so well here nowadays. Ive always disliked that about the labour party in that to get a majority in the UK they did so by relying on 45 50 MPs ish from Scotland. How they have fallen. I never liked them carting out the Union card to hide their real reasons and self motivations.

Wonder what Nicola will say to all this :)



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 6:05:10 AM)

I am not doing a new thread for this one - besides it belongs here

Sturgeon: May election move 'huge miscalculation'

Nicola Sturgeon has described Theresa May's plans for a snap general election as a "huge political miscalculation".
Ms Sturgeon said the move was an "extraordinary u-turn" by Mrs May, but that she relished the prospect of campaigning against the Tories.
The prime minister wants to have an election on 8 June - arguing that it will give the country certainty and stability following the EU referendum.
There will be a Commons vote on the proposed election on Wednesday.

The prime minister is expected to win the support of the required two-thirds of MPs, which she needs to call an election before the next scheduled date of 2020, with no opposition parties indicating they will oppose the move.

The SNP won 56 of Scotland's 59 seats at the general election in 2015, with the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats winning one each.
Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said her party was ready, organised and optimistic about winning more seats this time. guffaws guffaws back to whoremods joke


And for what its worth A Vote of no Confidence should have been called



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 6:11:58 AM)

Jeremy Corbyn welcomes early general election



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 6:46:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

My words were equally biased (well i call that humour and irony etc but no matter) rendering it a non biased..Scottishire Englishire & jackals were used fairly. She was also unelected - as was Smith - you believe i would say anything different no matter the "party"

It is clear that you have no idea how leadership elections are done WD.

The labour party usually use a general vote of registered Labour voters.
You can only vote if you are a paying member of the Labour party.

Hollyrood is done via Proportional Representation.
Yet strangely enough, MSP's are still on a constituent seat-by-seat basis.

The Conservative party leaders are elected by conservative members of parliament.
The general public don't get a say in the voting.

Personally, I actually prefer the PR way of doing things - 1 vote per person and tally the totals for each member standing for election.
This crazy first-past-the-post system means that minority parties have a distinct disadvantage.


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
And we can certainly carry out that election without Theresa May Consent "UK parliaments consent" (really they all said no did they - not one of them were asked so stop being a lying fuk or idiot)

Actually, no, you can't - not if you want it to count.

Article 30: The governments have agreed to promote an Order in Council under Section 30 of the Scotland Act 1998 in the United Kingdom and Scottish Parliaments to allow a single-question referendum on Scottish independence to be held before the end of 2014. The Order will put it beyond doubt that the Scottish Parliament can legislate for that referendum.

This was agreed for the 2014 referendum with permission from the UK parliament.
I didn't spot anything within Article 30 that allowed for more referendums beyond that which took place in 2014.

Salmond run it and blew it BIG time with no 'plan B'.
He made assumptions even when told by the Bank of England that he wouldn't be allowed to use the British Pound as currency. Idiot.

Fishface was insistent that she had the means to stay in the EU when the rest of the UK left.
The EU told her straight.... You can't because you don't qualify.
Yet she still fooled most of Scotland that it was possible.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire


Heh Freedomworf1 gonna tell me what the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 is? guffaws guffaws

That's simple.
Cockroach decided to implement a fixed 5-year term for governments.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
or who said Theresa May's election U-turn

"The next General Election should be in 2020." " I am not going to call a snap election" and so onguffaws guffaws

The words of Theresa May who has just executed an enormous political reversal.
For months she and her team have played down the prospect of an early poll.
The reasons were simple. They didn't want to cause instability during Brexit negotiations.
They didn't want to go through the technical process of getting round the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

It's a simple process to get around the fixed term regulations.
A simple vote in the house of commons and get a 66% majority to carry the motion.
Not difficult to understand - even for you. [:D]

Many a government have done massive U-turns.
It's nothing new.
This is very minor by comparison to some that have been performed in the past.
And, no doubt, it won't be the last.

Remember cockroach said he'd see the Brexit vote through to the end??
Then he changed his mind and said he'd carry it until the conservative party annual meeting.
And out of the blue, he resigned but said he'd stay on as an MP.
Now look: within a matter of days he's gone from PM to not even an MP!!


As for this call for a snap election - I'm all for it.
Fishface says it's a massive miscalculation by PM May.
That would be her personal PoV; May obviosly disagrees.

We'll have to see when the time comes.
Like the doom and gloom preaching of the remoaners and MSP's.
We aren't doing too badly and exports are doing very well tyvm. [:D]
Shame that Scotland's main export is to the UK - not much for the EU.



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 8:36:55 AM)

I am long on the record regarding our electoral process for the UK, and also Scotland. Its not my fault most people in Britain don't understand how they work, or how the leaders are elected, or what the hell the jackals are voting for in an election.

Gleaned from my ramblings are many things, so many over the epochs.

eg 56 out of 59 MPs is not a fair reflection for the Houses of Parliament. Do you see any undue bias in that statement?

The 66% going explain that to me and why it is part of the act, and that's actually a pretty brand spanking new act vagaries of that 66%, in that instance, I have no idea why that was added.

A vote of no confidence should have been called in this instance – all the parties are in-fighting with each other, and their opposite counterparts in the other parties. Its a fuking mess.

Now, I concede there is a valid argument the 66% rule should(‘ve) apply to the Scottish Independence and the BREXIT referendum.

Salmond didnt blow anything - your "English owned" press were screaming like the wee bitches they are with their fake news and lying fukery. And the biggest card they played was Scotland would not be part of the EU if they chose independence, and yet here we are a couple of years later. But look I don’t see how we can win more than the current 56 from 59 MPs. Not that 59/59 would make an iota of a difference.

Now you want me to start getting smart with some of the errant waffle you typed. Or would you like me to point out every hypocrisy and lying fukery of what is occurring in the UK

1. Hollyrood is done via Proportional Representation.
Yet strangely enough, MSP's are still on a constituent seat-by-seat basis
Bollocks - we use this system. Additional_Member_System

2. Actually, no, you can't - not if you want it to count. So is that a yes we can?
3. The EU told her straight – do you mean certain countries like oo France and Spain – any reason they said that Coughs Basques & Catalans. And what is the rest of the EU saying now after the brexit shambles?
4. Fishface was insistent that she had the means to stay in the EU when the rest of the UK left. Bollocks – but she tried, and up until today still tried, to negotiate with May regarding this issue and other malarkey. And you have a time -continuity fukup when all these elections held. Scotland 2016 bexit 2017 grrr
5. Shame that Scotland's main export is to the UK - not much for the EU. Invalid scaremongering – heh who is the bulk of Englands trade with. That aside Scotland exits the UK or the UK exists Europe trade will not suddenly hault

Other than that no real issues with anything else you typed

Coackroach resigning - first thing he actually did I admired. Is his wee bitch enabler still about ive lost track.

Fish face has a point – this is BREXIT round two. Now, I know Labour are not getting in again ever with an over all majority. But there is a real danger this will be a hung parliament. Which is what I am forecasting a hung parliament (right now)with the SNP holding the balance of power. And that’s despite clown one party having a 20 point lead for now. Although they will play that card in England because I can tell you half the English jackals hate the Scottish as much as they do the EU.

Like you I favour proportional representation
Note - 5 year term should have been absolutely fixed with the vote of no confidence being the singular exception

BREXIT round two and things may well go tits up for May and she has a ~20 point lead for now. That is what I see, probably what fish face see...but I must balance this up with this how much do the English hate Corben guy how un electable is he?



WhoreMods -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 9:50:24 AM)

May's probably hoping to legitimise herself as PM so that she can claim a mandate to be prime minister: Major and Brown both made a big thing of doing so after being appointed by a cabinet reshuffle/party leader storming off in a snit rather than an election, didn't they?
Either that or she's hoping the election will be such a fiasco she gets a no confidence vote and will be able to stand down, sticking somebody else with the blame for taking us out of Europe: she still hasn't done the job she took over from pork C3P0 Cameron to do because he didn't want to be remembered for doing it yet, has she?



WickedsDesire -> RE: May to seek snap election June 8th (4/18/2017 10:01:55 AM)

The last 5 polls median report a 17 point lead. Not even a 8% swing is required and us Scottish will lord over the UK, and burn anything looking a bit English to the ground - as it should be, I think we would all agree.

Do you know that actually crossed my feeble mind too: who would want that poison chalice, kiddie raping priests aside obviously, and agent orange treble guffaws

I thought labour were going to vote on everything BREXIT...SNP are the only party to have a mandate for not doing so - fair enough....greens too perhaps.

Did i miss something - were all parties going to gang together and vote against her/BREXIT? Thusly rendering a handful of her own back benches as the true wielders of power.

Did we ever come to an agreement on whether the House of geriatrics could stop this all ? Cant remember I was tanked on wine that night.

Well, wherever the fuk you are from, - you see this as BREXIT round two? - thats how I think this one will be fought and it will get real ugly.



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