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AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:00:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery It's kind of an irrelevant point, since what do they get for those taxes is the next question. But anyway, despite American mythology, we are not the highest taxed nation on Earth. In fact, we aren't even in the top 27: http://www.businessinsider.com/wef-27-countries-with-the-highest-tax-rates-in-the-world-2016-2 So the anti-taxation libertarians have won their battle, yet your country is still not a free market utopia where anybody can get rich and the plutocracy is an open club? Da fuck does that mean? (I don't even know what that meant).

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:02:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery despite American mythology, we are not the highest taxed nation on Earth. True, but our business rates are at or near the top... [image]https://www.mercatus.org/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/Corp-income-tax-rate-small.png[/image] After all the deductions are accounted for, Japanese companies face the highest effective tax rate worldwide. The U.S. multinationals come in second. ~Forbes [image]http://t-a-x.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/194045_5_.png[/image] K. What's the rate that's (actually) paid? NO ONE pays the posted rate. I don't pay anywhere near the rate I'm supposed to (and I pay a legal and fair rate).

Musicmystery -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:06:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 i don't know, and you probably don't either. but your recent statements and even the starting of this thread werent about "Donald trump's being in the wrong about taxes" they were about "americans" believing we were the most taxed nation in the world. if you want to make it about Donald trump's statements and declare him wrong, then the onus is on you to understand the context in how he meant it. but i'll say it again: one person doesn't create a mythology. OK. So everyone knows Trump is wrong -- there is no mythology. That's your position? [8\|]

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:07:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery It's kind of an irrelevant point, since what do they get for those taxes is the next question. But anyway, despite American mythology, we are not the highest taxed nation on Earth. In fact, we aren't even in the top 27: http://www.businessinsider.com/wef-27-countries-with-the-highest-tax-rates-in-the-world-2016-2 But my point is. The benefits that American get is even less than my country. Yet they pay higher taxes than us. So the tax that you pay, you aren't getting your money's worth of things that you should be entitled to, as part of those taxes that you paid. So if they paid more tax (as they did under Eisenhower) rather than hiding their assets offshore, stuff would work better. Eisenhower...as in...the Prez that was...like...the one just after WW2...who was then...the Prez who was responsible for paying off the largest debt (per capita) in the history of the United Sates (when presuming all social contracts)...than/of any previous Prez. That being the one you're suggesting?

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:10:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Ah. The partisan "It's OK if it's a Republican lying" defense. Because they didn't invent the lie. What an inspiring platform. Flawless.

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:21:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Well, im not searching anything out for you, but we have conversations here going on about the corporate tax rate going back to at least 2008, andthat was the last message returned, so there are over 300 posts at least about it. It would be sensible to say that its a lot more people than trump saying it. Oh and guess what, he is your president... Clinton lowered taxes below those of Reagan (including allowable deductions...which were massive under Clinton)....and the economy burst wide open. Tax rates (real tax rates) are not the answer (or the problem). What matters is....what we spend and, what we pay (for). i.e.....what we ask for and...what we're willing to pay. Both Warren Buffet and Bill Gates (when Bush 2 wanted to lower taxes) BOTH said (and were followed on by other well known wealthy men and women)..."please don't lower our taxes...in fact...raise them by 2%" Wealthy folks are NOT disabused by this concept that...they're more than clear; they've been treated well by this (and current) economies. The issue is NOT that the wealthy pay too little (in fact....they pay far more in real and in % dollars than they did in 1979)...rather...we all ask for far too much based on what we're willing to (all) put in to the pot of costs. It ain't conjecture....it's just basic math.

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:27:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Raises the question, then, why they're lying about it. You'd think they'd be proud. assuming the republican "lie" is that "we are the most heavily taxed developed nation in the world", you shouldn't have too much of a problem coming up with a multitude of people over a number of years saying exactly that? You have to understand the meaning of the word tax. Tax means burden. You tax a car engine going uphill in too high a gear. Having to pay matching SS is a tax. Having to pay special fees for certain types of waste disposal is a tax. Complying with certain regulations is a tax. Thinking that all the word means is what you pay the government for the privilege to do business is short sighted and stupid. T^T Now THAT is an argument!

MrRodgers -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 5:42:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar When compared to the GDP, the US scores extremely low both on income, as well as on corporate taxes. There's a lot of taxes made up other ways. Still, the overall tax rate against the GDP is only 26%, compared to nearly 50% for Belgium and Denmark. the government only spending a quarter of every dollar of wealth that a nation produces wouldn't be to bad if all necessary social services are actually covered by it... but of course, it doesn't factor in the national debt... I'm curious about what the tax rate really ought be against the GDP to cover every penny on the dollar the US government actually spends. Anybody got data on that? How about some quick ball-park numbers ? $3.5 trillion federal budget. $500 billion deficit. About 1/7th or about 14%. So a tax of GDP of 1.14 times the 26% theoretically would have the US stop borrowing at about 30% of GDP.

MrRodgers -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (4/30/2017 6:13:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Raises the question, then, why they're lying about it. You'd think they'd be proud. assuming the republican "lie" is that "we are the most heavily taxed developed nation in the world", you shouldn't have too much of a problem coming up with a multitude of people over a number of years saying exactly that? MM posts without thinking One of those trolls who couldn't back up his alternative facts fake news spew if his life depended on it Short search found Trump guilty. Didn't go much further. He (Trump) then explained why, despite that, he’s still sticking to his guns and giving "a massive" tax cut to businesses: "We’re the highest taxed nation in the world. Our businesses pay more taxes than any businesses in the world. That’s why companies are leaving." HERE

WhoreMods -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (5/1/2017 4:18:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery It's kind of an irrelevant point, since what do they get for those taxes is the next question. But anyway, despite American mythology, we are not the highest taxed nation on Earth. In fact, we aren't even in the top 27: http://www.businessinsider.com/wef-27-countries-with-the-highest-tax-rates-in-the-world-2016-2 But my point is. The benefits that American get is even less than my country. Yet they pay higher taxes than us. So the tax that you pay, you aren't getting your money's worth of things that you should be entitled to, as part of those taxes that you paid. So if they paid more tax (as they did under Eisenhower) rather than hiding their assets offshore, stuff would work better. Eisenhower...as in...the Prez that was...like...the one just after WW2...who was then...the Prez who was responsible for paying off the largest debt (per capita) in the history of the United Sates (when presuming all social contracts)...than/of any previous Prez. That being the one you're suggesting? That's the one. The one who raised taxes to pay off a debt. The one who had a top tax rate of 91%. The last Republican who didn't think that money would trickle down from the rich to the scum if you cut the top tax rates as heavily as you could...

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (5/1/2017 4:10:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery It's kind of an irrelevant point, since what do they get for those taxes is the next question. But anyway, despite American mythology, we are not the highest taxed nation on Earth. In fact, we aren't even in the top 27: http://www.businessinsider.com/wef-27-countries-with-the-highest-tax-rates-in-the-world-2016-2 But my point is. The benefits that American get is even less than my country. Yet they pay higher taxes than us. So the tax that you pay, you aren't getting your money's worth of things that you should be entitled to, as part of those taxes that you paid. So if they paid more tax (as they did under Eisenhower) rather than hiding their assets offshore, stuff would work better. Eisenhower...as in...the Prez that was...like...the one just after WW2...who was then...the Prez who was responsible for paying off the largest debt (per capita) in the history of the United Sates (when presuming all social contracts)...than/of any previous Prez. That being the one you're suggesting? That's the one. The one who raised taxes to pay off a debt. The one who had a top tax rate of 91%. The last Republican who didn't think that money would trickle down from the rich to the scum if you cut the top tax rates as heavily as you could... I would submit, contrarily that, at a top tax rate of 91% (those at the bottom...I'm sure you've done your research....paid less than a 1/3rd that...in many cases....1/12th that)....his intent was indeed....to tax the rich and they indeed did....in fact....trickle their wealth (knowingly acquired via war profits) down to....in fact...pay off that debt and....if you dig a little farther....you'll discover in old news print....they were thrilled to do so. (A tiny....teeeeeensy bit of research...goes a loooong way Whore). And just for the record....for some...it was actually 97%...and those folks....too....were also....quite....happy to oblige.

AtUrCervix -> RE: Which are the highest taxed countries? (5/9/2017 2:58:08 PM)
Nothing. (Color me surprised).

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