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ORIGINAL: Kirata
If you choose to ignore that highlighted phrase in order to shoehorn onto "he saw what was happening" the meaning that Trump thought Jackson was still alive during the war, that's on you. But you might want to notice that Trump says "what was happening with regard to the Civil War," not "what was happening during the Civil War." Even granting some room for interpretation, yours is still a stretch. Taken in context, I would have to interpret that as Jackson seeing what was happening during the lead up to the war, consistent with him not having been "a little later" in history.
K.
Okay, if that is what he meant, then he was still as wrong as possible.
Look at Andrew Jackson:
1) Staunch slave owner who fought every effort to limit slavery in the United States, up to and including every compromise, and was against the ban of importing new slaves.
2) He openly defied a Supreme Court Ruling that stated the Indian Relocation Act of 1830 was unconstitutional and the forced removal of Indians from the South Eastern United States was therefore illegal, thus was directly responsible for the trail of tears that lead to the death of untold thousands of Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw indians.
Even to the point of refusing to hear the pleas on behalf of the Cherokee people by Chief Junaluska, the man that saved his life during the Creek wars.
Chief Junaluska said after that meeting that had he known how badly Jackson would betray the people that fought and died at his side at the battle of the horseshoe, he would have allowed him to be killed or killed him himself.
Hundreds of Cherokee from Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina died serving that man, and more died after he betrayed as a reward for answering his call for help.
The trail of tears puts him easily in the class of great political leaders as Adolf Hitler.
I suggest, K, that for your own education, that you read the accounts of the suffering of the people forced to leave their homes at the point of a sword, and try to understand the simple fact that even after the Supreme court ruled the act unconstitutional, and even with Jackson's promises of fair compensation and care during the journey, that these people were not even fed starvation rations, that many died of exposure, starvation or were simply murdered by US soldiers for not being able to keep up with the groups.
This is not a man that would have done a fucking thing to prevent the civil war by abolishing one of the primary causes of the war.
For Donald Trump to even suggest as much shows an ignorance of Jackson as a politician or his place in history.
Do you really expect such a political leader to have actually done a damn thing to prevent the deadliest war in US history?
While the slavery issue is being whitewashed in states like Virginia, Tennessee and Texas, the trail of tears barely merited a page in school history books thirty years ago, and in today's revisionist versions adopted barely gets a couple of paragraphs.
The trail of tears set the stage for the treatment of Native Americans for the next 150 years.
For anyone to believe otherwise shows an almost undefinable amount of ignorance of the man or his philosophies.
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