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tamaka -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 9:47:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal


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Sure Greta, but you are very specific in exactly what you want/need in every way. That really doesn't give the other person much if any room at all to put their stamp on the relationship.

I don't see it that way.
That's where kink compatibility comes in.

If everything I love is the same things as what the dominant enjoy as well. We're a match. No conflict.

If this is a dominant who feels the need to constantly make me do things I don't enjoy, just to feel like he is powerful and in control of me. Then well.., he is the type of dominant who is unsuitable for me.

I mean, think about it? I enjoy sex. So if he really wanted to test my submission. All he gotta do is deny me sex for the rest of my life! And nope, I will not be happy!

The test of submission is in doing things because HE enjoys them Greta.


It is not only the test of submission, but also the joy of submission... doing things because HE enjoys them.

Sometimes there is extra joy because HE enjoys them and you don't necessarily.


A girl struggles with doing a thing she finds to be a trial. But accomplishes.

What is the reward for such suffering? An expansive acceptance of her love-and this is the real gift.

To both.


: )

You are on a roll tonight.



NoirMetal -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 9:53:58 PM)

Half a century, and I am finally finding my place in the universe.

And my center with increasing regularity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZyNKrYo9I4



tamaka -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:06:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

Half a century, and I am finally finding my place in the universe.

And my center with increasing regularity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZyNKrYo9I4



: )



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:10:22 PM)

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Having to do a thing he likes is always "emotional masochism?"

Like watching the football game with him?

But what if she LOVES football? And that is one the best things she LOVES about you! Sharing her Football Interest?

Then what? It's no longer submission?

I don't understand this whole "Premise" about finding a girl who will sacrifice anything she likes to just focus on your likes, instead of finding a girl who enjoys what you enjoy.

That is seeking a woman who is into "emotional masochism".



NoirMetal -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:16:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

Having to do a thing he likes is always "emotional masochism?"

Like watching the football game with him?

But what if she LOVES football? And that is one the best things she LOVES about you! Sharing her Football Interest?

Then what? It's no longer submission?

I don't understand this whole "Premise" about finding a girl who will sacrifice anything she likes to just focus on your likes, instead of finding a girl who enjoys what you enjoy.

That is seeking a woman who is into "emotional masochism".

Most Doms with any sense are not going to force a girl to do things she hates, more than occasionally. I was not the one who came up with this chicken little crap Greta,get over it.



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:18:43 PM)

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Most Doms with any sense are not going to force a girl to do things she hates, more than occasionally. I was not the one who came up with this chicken little crap Greta,get over it.

But my main question to you is. WHAT if she LOVES Football?

Would her excitement to join you at FootBall Games feel less to you?

Compared to, IF she dislike FootBall, and she still faithfully accompany you to every game?



NoirMetal -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:20:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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Most Doms with any sense are not going to force a girl to do things she hates, more than occasionally. I was not the one who came up with this chicken little crap Greta,get over it.

But my main question to you is. WHAT if she LOVES Football?

Would her excitement to join you at FootBall Games feel less to you?

Compared to, IF she dislike FootBall, and she still faithfully accompany you to every game?

I'd worry more about if she loved surprise buttsex Greta. That can prove lethal to a Dom,not knowing. After all-you are going to have to let her loose SOMETIME.



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:26:50 PM)

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I'd worry more about if she loved surprise buttsex Greta. That can prove lethal to a Dom,not knowing.

I know too many women who prefer anal penetration to vagina penetration including men married to vanilla wives who prefer anal penetration to vagina penetration to even see butt sex as anything unusual, out of ordinary or difficult to find.

So what if she absolutely loves butt sex above all other types of sex? It's a brilliant orgasmic zone for some women.



NoirMetal -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:29:01 PM)


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I'd worry more about if she loved surprise buttsex Greta. That can prove lethal to a Dom,not knowing.

I know too many women who prefer anal penetration to vagina penetration including men married to vanilla wives who prefer anal penetration to vagina penetration to even see butt sex as anything unusual, out of ordinary or difficult to find.

with a cantaloupe.



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:30:20 PM)

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with a cantaloupe.


Again, not shocking, especially in the Europe BDSM scene. Double Fisting on anal is soo common that what's a cantaloupe?

You will find women who absolute crave the bigger the better!

Almost ANYTHING nasty you can think of. There will be women who will absolutely LOVE it!

Will it spoil your enjoyment if she enjoys it too much?




NoirMetal -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 10:37:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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with a cantaloupe.


Again, not shocking, especially in the Europe BDSM scene. Double Fisting on anal is soo common that what's a cantaloupe?

You will find women who absolute crave the bigger the better!

Almost ANYTHING nasty you can think of. There will be women who will absolutely LOVE it!



uh huh. Tolerance is an amazing thing. And as much as fifty percent of the kink population is now purported have at least some. Even for kinks they don't practice themselves. Did I hear something a while back about someone saying he had married Twilight sparkle,and he demanded that all of the "clop" of her be taken down from the net IMMEDIATELY?

Why does the wife want the husband to always take the trash out? Is she a cruel dominatrix? AND mow the lawn?



tamaka -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/5/2017 11:24:19 PM)


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Why does the wife want the husband to always take the trash out? Is she a cruel dominatrix? AND mow the lawn?



She is if she wakes him up at 3am and tells him to go do it. ;)



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/6/2017 12:10:37 AM)


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uh huh. Tolerance is an amazing thing. And as much as fifty percent of the kink population is now purported have at least some. Even for kinks they don't practice themselves.

Things like Canteloupe in the ass, can be a very painful process for those not used to large anal objects in their anal. So understandably, they may not be able to tolerate the pain. Not everybody can have good pain tolerance ya know.

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Why does the wife want the husband to always take the trash out? Is she a cruel dominatrix? AND mow the lawn?

This is like a problem that only exist in people living in houses. For those of us like me who have never experienced living in a house. I have rubbish chute in my kitchen, and all rubbish goes into it. I never needed a man to take out my trash ever.



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/6/2017 12:16:11 AM)


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She is if she wakes him up at 3am and tells him to go do it. ;)

I am so glad I don't live in a house.

One of the reasons I actually don't fancy living in an actual house. You gotta drag the trash all the way outside your home to dispose of it. What a drag!

I grew up with rubbish chute right in my kitchen, so it's so easy! Just throw all your trash inside of it.




tamaka -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/6/2017 12:23:11 AM)


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She is if she wakes him up at 3am and tells him to go do it. ;)

I am so glad I don't live in a house.

One of the reasons I actually don't fancy living in an actual house. You gotta drag the trash all the way outside your home to dispose of it. What a drag!

I grew up with rubbish chute right in my kitchen, so it's so easy! Just throw all your trash inside of it.




You missed the point.



Greta75 -> RE: What it takes to submit ! A personal note! (5/6/2017 12:47:51 AM)

I didn't miss any point.

To me a D/S relationships is all about pre-negotiated parameters. If a dominant wants his sub to take out of the trash. All these should be pre-discussed.

When I was living in a 24/7 structured D/S relationship for 2 years with my x-dom. All the rules and regulations, structure are all pre-discussed before I stepped into that environment. And then I have a schedule to follow, duties to do everyday. All set by him, and I have pre-agreed to live by it.

For example. I have to wake up 4am everyday to prepare his breakfast. And I have to give him a blow job and make him cum before he leaves to work everyday. I agreed to that. If he doesn't cum, when he comes home from work. I will be punished, by the whip. So if he didn't cum, I gotta prepare the whip for him, there are positions. He controls what I wear in the house and what I wear outdoors. There were alot of very clear and structured things anyway, which I like, because no surprises. I know what to do, what is my role and what I need to do that will make him happy and I felt those things weren't difficult for me to do.

All these are pre-agreed, and I agree to it, because it was fun for me.

So if taking out the trash was part of my daily duties. I would have to agree to do it, BEFORE I step into being his submissive.

To me, it's all pre-negotiated upfront.

Because it's very simple right?

A dominant just needs to say, "If you want to be with me, these are my terms!"

A sub just need to decide, "Agree or Disagree?"

If she disagree, find someone else. The Dominant will also find someone to agree with him.



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