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Musicmystery -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 6:33:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance I doubt changing the forum guidelines would be of any use. My thoughts on moderation: The only thing it does is unite people in having a common thing to bitch about. There is no power in being a moderator, you aren't the boss of the forum, you are a servant and it's work. If a moderator is acting as if they are in charge, they aren't moderating, they are playing favorites or bullying. People don't like to be called out on their bad behavior, so instead of behaving properly they either act petty and send ridiculous amounts of reports about whomever they feel isn't getting spanked as hard as they are or they spend a ridiculous amount of time obsessing about the moderator . If we want a better forum, take personal responsibility for our own way of communicating and moderate our own behaviors. If someone behaves in an offensive manner, move on. You don't have to engage. If you do, you don't have to be equally inappropriate. If you are, then you are equally part of the problem. If someone can't follow forum guidelines, suspend them. If they do it again, ban them. If they spend their day creating socks, ban them too. Less work. Better forum.

BitaTruble -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 6:48:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne yeh the last thing you would ever want is people devoloving into a state of 'nature', like the biblical garden of eden zog forbid [8\|] so its ok with you to impose your moral base upon others? One of the reasons I read you is because you give me pause and make me see things with contrasts or comparisons of ideas I hadn't thought of before. Lord of the Flies and The Garden of Eden. I am just sitting here grinning about even thinking about the idea of getting to think. That's for later though. Having very few morals myself and keeping things within the context of the thread, forum mods, imo, should be utilized to maintain the flow and fix leaks when they need fixing. I was a strong advocate for transparent moderation and having one dedicated forum as non-moderated except for those instances which could get the place actually shut down. I, personally, spoke to both of the owners (at that time) about allowing mods to wear their own screen names but I was shot down with the arrow of a Nanny who said it was an issue of safety. I was thrilled to see a new mod in their own clothes. I believe that was a step in the right direction. Like Win, not many would have ever seen my name because I was more garbage collector than mod. Remember Jessikabot and Penis guy? My first stint as a mod was strictly to kill them while the techie guys worked on the solution to the problem. I was living in Portugal at that time, was awake during hours while most of the rest of the CM folks were sleeping so most folks, unless they were also across the pond might not be aware of the, literally, 100's of spam emails and threads were started by bots. Those of us who were bot assassins could barely keep up but once the Portuguese connection.. (ha! That was me) .. took place and the threads were getting deleted pretty fast during the wee hours things with the two bots slowed to a crawl even as IP addresses were getting banned and new programs were being written to combat the problem. CM wasnt the only website infected with jess or penis bots..the same sorts of thing all over the internet, messengers and not just kink sites. Anyway, I think I only interacted with nonbots twice on the forums and that was at the direction of Head Honcho as I was the only one available. Telephone call..go delete post so and so.. "okay boss" and it was done and I would follow the deletion process with the very limited tools available to me. I didn't have the power to ban anyone. I could not modify a post. I could move a thread and..well, thats about it. Most of what I did involved moving bots to the trash bin hence..garbage collector. I had a second stint as a mod right after the first series of loonie toons in which I was actually getting training. That was the one which convinced me that without transparency there could be no accountability.. on either side. I said I would mod, again, in my own clothes but not otherwise, my safety (because of my nature and being very out and open) was still their main issue so..I stepped down. I've been out of the closet for 35 years.. so, going back in just to wear a mod suit and perform thankless tasks for no pay? Um, no. At least in my own designer clothing choices for the Internet I get to earn or lose respect on my own merit. That's good enough for me.

bounty44 -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 8:21:27 AM)
for the most part I ignore realone, so im just now seeing his snarky reply to me quoted above. "state of nature" is a clear, but apparently not to him, reference to hobbes' leviathan and other social contract theorists---the condition of which motivates men to create contracts by which they can live in peace together in this thing called "civilization." this should have been all the more clear because the phrase was used to describe what happened in lord of the flies. as for the garden of eden, that is not described as a "state of nature" but is actually used in contrast to one. yeah---that's "imposing a moral base upon others."

Kirata -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 8:26:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So no posts by leftists have been yanked because a bunch of rightards reported them en masse, then? That's right. None. Learn the system. Once a post has been reported, subsequent attempts to report the same post are declined. K.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 8:39:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So no posts by leftists have been yanked because a bunch of rightards reported them en masse, then? That's right. None. Learn the system. Once a post has been reported, subsequent attempts to report the same post are declined. K. As opposed to (according to the drug-addled horse's mouth) "a bunch" of PPLs calling a MOD, at home to have a special rule imposed on one non-PPL poster. Michael

Real0ne -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 8:59:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 its not so much that they were children as much as that they were English children who had been brought up to know the difference between right/wrong and good/bad, but left to their own devices outside of a societal structure that constrained them, yes they devolved into a state of nature. im suggesting that good moderation would provide, in part, the local societal structure. yeh the last thing you would ever want is people devoloving into a state of 'nature', like the biblical garden of eden zog forbid [8\|] so its ok with you to impose your moral base upon others? quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 for the most part I ignore realone, so im just now seeing his snarky reply to me quoted above. "state of nature" is a clear, but apparently not to him, reference to hobbes' leviathan and other social contract theorists---the condition of which motivates men to create contracts by which they can live in peace together in this thing called "civilization." this should have been all the more clear because the phrase was used to describe what happened in lord of the flies. as for the garden of eden, that is not described as a "state of nature" but is actually used in contrast to one. yeah---that's "imposing a moral base upon others." Call it what ever cool label you want to put on it, the creation of a state imposes state determined morals upon those who live within the state most of which are total bullshit since everyone has a different religion that does not agree with state morals imposed. The social contract creates a mob like it or not, and you will NOT live in the 'state of nature' once the mob has control over you and dicktates which morals you are ALLOWED and which you are not. Just ask gays and mormons and a host of others whos morals the state tramples every moment it exists because it runs contrary to the state of nature and peoples religions. The real question here is since everyone wants to talk about the quality of gubernators here do you recognize that you imagined that civility can only be had through a state? Do you recognize the fact that you painted my position 100% incorrectly? mod44 STATE OF NATURE The idea of a ‘state of nature’ is the idea of life without government, [sounds like the garden of eden to me 'before' she bit the apple] without a state or laws. To imagine a state of nature, we imagine away government, law, police, and see what we are left with. The idea has a long history in political philosophy, because it can help us answer the question – why do we, or why should we, live under the rule of law? In everyday life, we take it for granted that we do – that there are things we are not allowed to do, laws we should not break, that if we do, we will be punished, and that these matters are decided by other people. Looks like real understands the 'state of nature' far better than you do. Your participation in democracy ends by voting for your new overlords, the new boss who reads the same bible as the old boss, yeh tell me about the social contract and state of nature.

bounty44 -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 9:08:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So no posts by leftists have been yanked because a bunch of rightards reported them en masse, then? That's right. None. Learn the system. Once a post has been reported, subsequent attempts to report the same post are declined. K. if I can add on to whoremods, yeah, because reporting posts in which lefties call people pedophiles, or suggest they are having sex with animals, or incest, and other such examples of liberal love and tolerance is really just a hyper-partisan thing.

Real0ne -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 9:18:48 AM)
publicly, falsely, claiming someone is guilty of violating the law is libel in which relief can be obtained through court.

mnottertail -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 9:25:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods So no posts by leftists have been yanked because a bunch of rightards reported them en masse, then? That's right. None. Learn the system. Once a post has been reported, subsequent attempts to report the same post are declined. K. if I can add on to whoremods, yeah, because reporting posts in which lefties call people pedophiles, or suggest they are having sex with animals, or incest, and other such examples of liberal love and tolerance is really just a hyper-partisan thing. Well when a nutsucker did it, nobody reported it, and that occurred first, regarding pedophiles. Now I dont know about nutsuckers having sex with animals, maybe they do, some have incest, thats in the papers, and the pastiche that nutsuckers project about liberals 'love and tolerance' is really just a hyper-partisan thing. BTW, dogshit44, I am not a liberal, I am just not a nutsucker. I know as a retard that confuses you, with your constant refelching of factless nutsucker slobberblogs. Turn me in before millions of FBI agents resign in disgust, or you are going to be both a retarded nutsucker and fucked.

bounty44 -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 9:37:31 AM)
speak of the devil and he appears.

mnottertail -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 9:50:14 AM)
oh, dogshit44, you are always here. But generally folks look at the number on line here either that number is wrong, or you will not be seeing in your face moderation here. After all, we are not communists, (other than nutsuckers). Putin sez, even I not such communist as nutsuckers.

BoscoX -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 9:55:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 speak of the devil and he appears. So many on the left have obvious mental issues, perhaps those are the ones who need a moderator's help far more than any others

WickedsDesire -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 10:19:53 AM)
Impartiality what the fuk do you know about that As for those allegations they exist and many high prominent people (prince Andrew was one methinks) have become embroiled in them over the years (Epstein’s parties I think that was his name who I think is serving time) He has actually been on the telly stating he would date Ivanka if she wasn’t his daughter here is the clip Donald Trump Nearly Casually Remarks about Incest with daughter Ivanka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80 Oh and watch this clip too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcnBuE3ExWo – really you will not believe what he said 1.40 seconds in If you don’t know what Pig and the story behind that. and which UK Premier allegedly……. Back Mirror also did an episode alone those lines

BoscoX -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 10:34:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire Impartiality what the fuk do you know about that As for those allegations they exist and many high prominent people (prince Andrew was one methinks) have become embroiled in them over the years (Epstein’s parties I think that was his name who I think is serving time) He has actually been on the telly stating he would date Ivanka if she wasn’t his daughter here is the clip Donald Trump Nearly Casually Remarks about Incest with daughter Ivanka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80 Oh and watch this clip too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcnBuE3ExWo – really you will not believe what he said 1.40 seconds in If you don’t know what Pig and the story behind that. and which UK Premier allegedly……. Back Mirror also did an episode alone those lines You are insane, as are most leftists He said if she weren't his daughter, which is not incest.

mnottertail -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 10:40:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 speak of the devil and he appears. So many on the left have obvious mental issues, perhaps those are the ones who need a moderator's help far more than any others The nutsuckers are just plain old everyday felchgobbling retards, obviously.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 10:47:22 AM)
Unlike you I am able to quote sources, and many straight from the orange horses mouth on the telly, - did you watch the second video? What a lovely man i thought to myself, did you think that also? What about the rest of the post? Do you believe I made any of it up? Sanity wasn't it I asked someone about you not long ago, as i do from time to time when i cant tell some "socks" apart, or new incarnations You lack the capacity to moderate - many on here I am undecided.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 12:11:26 PM)
The National Anthem (Black Mirror) Plot[edit] British Prime Minister Michael Callow (Rory Kinnear) faces a huge and shocking dilemma when Princess Susannah, Duchess of Beaumont (Lydia Wilson), a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped. For her safe return, the Prime Minister must have live sexual intercourse with a pig on national television, as per a list of technical specifications designed to make it impossible to fake. Callow adamantly opposes fulfilling the demand and does everything possible to catch the kidnapper before the deadline. Callow also demands the news not reach the public, but the ransom video has been posted on YouTube and, despite having only been up for nine minutes, has already been viewed and downloaded by many members of the British public. Although the UK's media initially agrees to comply with a D-Notice to not report the story, the story soon reaches foreign news networks, which immediately report. After this, the UK media follow suit. The public's response is initially one of sympathy towards Callow, and the majority do not expect him to go through with the demand. The episode received very positive reviews. It has been compared to Piggate, a real-life scandal which occurred in 2015. Piggate "Piggate" refers to an uncorroborated anecdote that during his university years former British Prime Minister David Cameron put a "private part of his anatomy" into a dead pig's mouth as part of an initiation ceremony for the Piers Gaveston Society. The anecdote was reported by Michael Ashcroft and Isabel Oakeshott in their unauthorised biography of Cameron, Call Me Dave, attributing the story to an anonymous Member of Parliament who was a "distinguished Oxford contemporary" of Cameron's. Extracts from the book were published in the Daily Mail on 21 September 2015, prior to its publication. Downing Street sources responded by saying that Cameron would not dignify the anecdote with a response while friends reported him saying that it was "utter nonsense". Cameron said later that "a very specific denial was made a week ago". Ashcroft and Oakeshott failed to receive a response from the purported owner of a photograph of the alleged incident, and since the extract's publication no corroborating evidence has as yet been produced to support the anecdote. In an interview, Valentine Guinness, one of the Piers Gaveston Society founders, said that Cameron "may well have attended one of their parties" but as far as he knew he was never a member. How plausible is all this - hmmm Edward Heath Sir Edward Richard George Heath, KG, MBE, PC (9 July 1916 – 17 July 2005), often known as Ted Heath, was a British politician who served as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1970 to 1974, and as the Leader of the Conservative Party from 1965 to 1975 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Heath#Allegations_of_child_sexual_abuse

BitaTruble -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 1:32:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 for the most part I ignore realone, so im just now seeing his snarky reply to me quoted above. "state of nature" is a clear, but apparently not to him, reference to hobbes' leviathan and other social contract theorists---the condition of which motivates men to create contracts by which they can live in peace together in this thing called "civilization." this should have been all the more clear because the phrase was used to describe what happened in lord of the flies. as for the garden of eden, that is not described as a "state of nature" but is actually used in contrast to one. yeah---that's "imposing a moral base upon others." Come on, Bounty. I couldn't care less who anyone reads. You should know that by now and you should know I choose my own reading materials. LotF vs GoE is a conversation I do want to have at some point but this is not the thread which is why I said later. I want to reread LotF first. This thread is speaking about forum guidelines. Do you want to speak to me on that topic or do you wanna pay me to deliver messages to you from Real? Chicks gotta make a living, dude. We can negotiate equity. Doesn't have to be actual money. I barter. [;)]

BoscoX -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 1:37:12 PM)
Too bad you're not "it", you'd be a good one too

bounty44 -> RE: Time to update the forum guidelines? (5/9/2017 2:04:34 PM)
it was merely an explanation as to why I was answering the post then, as opposed to earlier. no need to deliver the message---although if you wanna have a private conversation about star trek... call it a quirk of the way I use the forum---I was in part talking to him, part to you, and part to everyone. but the phrase "state of nature" and all the rest of the stuff I wrote subsequently is indeed germane to the topic. in short, since there are no real rules or effective authorities or recognizable social contracts, the forums are a virtual "state of nature."

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