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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.

When a child forgets a pencil or a book. They don't get stamp on their bodies, 'I forget my pencil", or "I forget my book". And have it announced to the world!

There lies the difference. No public humiliation for them.

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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

You can digress all you want.. But I hate to break it to you, but what I have stated does happen. Not everyone has computers and phones. As for what happens if there is an accident?
There is sometimes an emergency back-up number, a grandparent, a neighbor...

Whether you want to believe it, there are families out there that are really struggling. Things we take for granted are next to impossible for some families.

So why not mail something? Did you know that people sometimes move? I know crazy huh? They sometimes have to move during the school year.

A little something called eviction. Do you really think in some situations getting that change of address form done is a top priority?

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Kids forget things for school every day and borrow or do without for school every day, and don't think a thing about it. They don't have a pencil and have to borrow one. Wrong kind of paper for math class and have to ask the teacher or a friend. Forgot their book for reading hour and look on with a friend.

Forgetting things is a part of daily life for them and lunch money is just one of those things, not a major life concern. Adults are the ones that understand that money is different, and adults are the ones that try to turn it into a major deal.

When a child forgets a pencil or a book. They don't get stamp on their bodies, 'I forget my pencil", or "I forget my book". And have it announced to the world!

There lies the difference. No public humiliation for them.

As I stated earlier Greta, you don't have any credibility discussing this issue. Just stop talking.

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

I find it noticeable how people with school aged kids don't seem to have an issue with this concept, while it's childless people freaking out about how it's going to 'traumatize the poor kids'.

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ORIGINAL: InfoMan

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

I find it noticeable how people with school aged kids don't seem to have an issue with this concept, while it's childless people freaking out about how it's going to 'traumatize the poor kids'.

I find it noticeable of the people who don't have an issue with this concept have admitted that their child/children suffer from a detrimental psychological or sociological problems... Such as mental issues, learning disorders, or split parentage through Divorce. They also seemingly paint themselves as some how having foreknowledge on this because of personal experience while simultaneously ignoring that the long term effects of this will influence them and their decisions for the rest of their children's lives.

But no - that isn't the case because you asked your 10 year old what he/she thinks...
and obviously some one that medically and scientifically doesn't have the mental faculties to perform such meta-analysis is clearly the best source of reliable information in this debate... right?

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ORIGINAL: DommeinRochester

Just out of curiosity.... Has anyone here, especially those who are so vehemently against this stamp even seen one of these stamps?
Are we thinking it says in bright red ink "your parents are awful"?

Or maybe it's something it's something like a smiley face, or a puppy dog?

Of all the crap kids have to deal with today.. This is the line in the sand?
If the worse thing that happened to my kid all day is he got his hand stamped, I'm thinking its a pretty damn good day!

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

Divorce is not a psychological or sociological problem

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especially not when parents staying together would have created a hostile environment which would be detrimental to the welfare of the children.

And neither of my kids suffers from sociological or psychological issues. My youngest was tested at having a 142 IQ. Due to this he's the 'head in the clouds' dreamer type, and the trivialities of personal organisation don't interest him, causing issues with him fitting into a cookie cutter mold school system which expects kids to be on par with each other.

It's not a problem, or a detriment to him. It's an expression of him being a unique individual with his own challenges in life, just like everybody has. He will adapt to the challenges it poses him, though possibly not until he's free to leave school and dedicate himself fully to perusing his own interests instead of trying to fit himself to other's expectations.

And yes, on this subject a 10 year old would be a better authority than an adult, considering that adults have a tendency to transfer their own mental and emotional issues onto children by teaching the children that things which the kids have no problems with are 'issues' by show of their own anxiety around the subject.
The worse thing you could do in a situation like this is express your own neurosis to a child by making a big deal out of something the kid doesn't experience as an issue, because it's by that transferred and taught anxiety that the child will learn to form their own neurosis.

IF receiving such a stamp is detrimental to the child's psychological welfare, it's because the adults around it teach the child that it should be concerned, anxious, and upset by such a thing.

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: InfoMan

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

I find it noticeable how people with school aged kids don't seem to have an issue with this concept, while it's childless people freaking out about how it's going to 'traumatize the poor kids'.

I find it noticeable of the people who don't have an issue with this concept have admitted that their child/children suffer from a detrimental psychological or sociological problems... Such as mental issues, learning disorders, or split parentage through Divorce. They also seemingly paint themselves as some how having foreknowledge on this because of personal experience while simultaneously ignoring that the long term effects of this will influence them and their decisions for the rest of their children's lives.

But no - that isn't the case because you asked your 10 year old what he/she thinks...
and obviously some one that medically and scientifically doesn't have the mental faculties to perform such meta-analysis is clearly the best source of reliable information in this debate... right?

Divorce is not a psychological or sociological problem, especially not when parents staying together would have created a hostile environment which would be detrimental to the welfare of the children.

And neither of my kids suffers from sociological or psychological issues. My youngest was tested at having a 142 IQ. Due to this he's the 'head in the clouds' dreamer type, and the trivialities of personal organisation don't interest him, causing issues with him fitting into a cookie cutter mold school system which expects kids to be on par with each other.

It's not a problem, or a detriment to him. It's an expression of him being a unique individual with his own challenges in life, just like everybody has. He will adapt to the challenges it poses him, though possibly not until he's free to leave school and dedicate himself fully to perusing his own interests instead of trying to fit himself to other's expectations.

And yes, on this subject a 10 year old would be a better authority than an adult, considering that adults have a tendency to transfer their own mental and emotional issues onto children by teaching the children that things which the kids have no problems with are 'issues' by show of their own anxiety around the subject.
The worse thing you could do in a situation like this is express your own neurosis to a child by making a big deal out of something the kid doesn't experience as an issue, because it's by that transferred and taught anxiety that the child will learn to form their own neurosis.

IF receiving such a stamp is detrimental to the child's psychological welfare, it's because the adults around it teach the child that it should be concerned, anxious, and upset by such a thing.

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Another stamp which has been making the rounds was from the Alabama school districts that have a 'stamp policy' in which the student gets stamped when their lunch balance reaches $0. This stamp says specifically 'I NEED LUNCH MONEY'.



The parent complained with this because the stamp wasn't a last resort, it is standard procedure and the ONLY thing done stating:

“I don’t care if my son has a -$100 balance, Send me a note home or an email.
When you start stamping a message on a child’s body instead of calling … it’s not OK,”

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: InfoMan

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

I find it noticeable how people with school aged kids don't seem to have an issue with this concept, while it's childless people freaking out about how it's going to 'traumatize the poor kids'.

I find it noticeable of the people who don't have an issue with this concept have admitted that their child/children suffer from a detrimental psychological or sociological problems... Such as mental issues, learning disorders, or split parentage through Divorce. They also seemingly paint themselves as some how having foreknowledge on this because of personal experience while simultaneously ignoring that the long term effects of this will influence them and their decisions for the rest of their children's lives.

But no - that isn't the case because you asked your 10 year old what he/she thinks...
and obviously some one that medically and scientifically doesn't have the mental faculties to perform such meta-analysis is clearly the best source of reliable information in this debate... right?

Divorce is not a psychological or sociological problem, especially not when parents staying together would have created a hostile environment which would be detrimental to the welfare of the children.

And neither of my kids suffers from sociological or psychological issues. My youngest was tested at having a 142 IQ. Due to this he's the 'head in the clouds' dreamer type, and the trivialities of personal organisation don't interest him, causing issues with him fitting into a cookie cutter mold school system which expects kids to be on par with each other.

It's not a problem, or a detriment to him. It's an expression of him being a unique individual with his own challenges in life, just like everybody has. He will adapt to the challenges it poses him, though possibly not until he's free to leave school and dedicate himself fully to perusing his own interests instead of trying to fit himself to other's expectations.

And yes, on this subject a 10 year old would be a better authority than an adult, considering that adults have a tendency to transfer their own mental and emotional issues onto children by teaching the children that things which the kids have no problems with are 'issues' by show of their own anxiety around the subject.
The worse thing you could do in a situation like this is express your own neurosis to a child by making a big deal out of something the kid doesn't experience as an issue, because it's by that transferred and taught anxiety that the child will learn to form their own neurosis.

IF receiving such a stamp is detrimental to the child's psychological welfare, it's because the adults around it teach the child that it should be concerned, anxious, and upset by such a thing.

Teaching kids that they don't have to allow people to do something like this to them is a worthwhile lesson for adults to teach their kids.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka




You're from Alabama. That explains alot.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: tamaka




You're from Alabama. That explains alot.

Hell I aint on here much nowadays, so getting kicked off wont be a big deal.

You're a cunt, that explains a lot.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: tamaka




You're from Alabama. That explains alot.

Hell I aint on here much nowadays, so getting kicked off wont be a big deal.

You're a cunt, that explains a lot.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Do let me know when you manage to do that please.