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tweakabelle -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 1:41:28 AM)
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ORIGINAL: respectmen
Most muslims are dead silent about the terrorists and/or the ones that are trying to enforce sharia law.
People with an anti-Muslim agenda (looking right at you RM, BoscoX) persist in making this and similar claims loudly, repeatedly and without any basis in fact.
Recently this claim was tested in the courts as part of a libel action brought by the Grand Mufti of Australia against Murdoch's News Corp, one of the prime drivers of Islamophobia in the media. So the claim was analysed forensically as part of the proceedings. The Guardian reports:
"Sydney’s Daily Telegraph newspaper published two stories highly critical of the response of the grand mufti, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed, to the co-ordinated terrorist attacks that killed 130 people in November 2015.
One depicted him as three “unwise” monkeys, covering his ears, eyes and mouth, next to the words “Sees no problems, hears no concerns, speaks no English”. The second article was headlined: “Even Hamas condemn the Paris attacks so why won’t Australia’s Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohammed?”.
Mohamed, Australia’s most senior Sunni scholar, sued News Corp for defamation early last year, and verdicts were entered by agreement with News Corp in his favour in the NSW supreme court on Friday. The terms of the settlement were confidential. Mohamed had alleged the articles wrongly implied he had failed to condemn the terrorist attacks and shifted blame away from the perpetrators.
He had issued a statement days before the defamatory articles, which mourned the loss of innocent lives in Paris and expressed his deepest condolences to families and friends of the victims.
The statement canvassed “causative factors” of terrorism, including racism, Islamophobia, curtailing freedoms, foreign policies and military intervention.
Mohamed had earlier posted a Facebook statement about the Paris attacks and a bombing in Beirut, which said: “There are no words to truly describe the devastation of these acts but we will continue in solidarity and pray for peace.”
He had previously condemned all forms of terrorism, including on Facebook, in interviews with the ABC and in other formal statements.
His statement of claim alleged he had been brought into hatred, ridicule and contempt, and was gravely injured in his character and reputation.
News Corp had previously defended the claim, arguing that the imputations of the articles were substantially true. It also argued that some of the defamatory imputations were an expression of honest opinion."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/05/australias-grand-mufti-wins-defamation-case-over-news-corp-articles
News Corp were unable to substantiate their false claims, and admitted that their claims had no foundation in fact. They were forced to abandon their first line of defence - that the claims were "substantially true" - and accept that their claims were false. For a more detailed analysis of the statements and claims see here
So RM & BoscoX the claims you are advancing has been tested in a court and found to be false. I doubt if this will stop you peddling this falsehood in future but at least we both know that you have been exposed to the truth of the matter right here and now, and if you repeat this claim in the future we will both know that you are knowingly and deliberately peddling malicious lies.
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