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respectmen -> Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/12/2017 9:05:24 PM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free.

Greta75 -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/12/2017 9:17:40 PM)
1) A man can CHOOSE to always wear a condom with added spermicide to protect himself from Female Stealthing and not trust the female to do it via birth control, which usually is not effective and cause many accidents. 2) Stealthing a woman is about contacting an incurable diseases called AIDS. Pregnancy is the least of her problems. The man would have taken away her life, literally gave her a death causing disease. And if a woman gets AIDS from stealthing. I am suggesting death penalty for the man too. If a man chooses not to wear a condom and have sex without it, he is responsible for himself getting aids and getting a woman pregnant. So to me, any stupid man who refuses to wear condoms during sex, is an idiot and deserves the pregnancy. Totally self-inflicted pregnancy.

WhoreMods -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 4:54:35 AM)
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WickedsDesire -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 5:05:01 AM)
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CreativeDominant -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 9:16:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free. Any man foolishly naive enough to believe a woman who says she is rigorously using birth control is deserving of what happens. Setting trust and relationship issues aside...people are great about talking about responsibility and yet, many men do not want to take on the simple, relatively little effort and time it takes to put on a spermicidal condom. Preferably a brand new one purchased recently that hasn't been out of his possession. Do that and you're being responsible...not just for her health but your own, as well as your future.

Aylee -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 9:32:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free. Any man foolishly naive enough to believe a woman who says she is rigorously using birth control is deserving of what happens. Setting trust and relationship issues aside...people are great about talking about responsibility and yet, many men do not want to take on the simple, relatively little effort and time it takes to put on a spermicidal condom. Preferably a brand new one purchased recently that hasn't been out of his possession. Do that and you're being responsible...not just for her health but your own, as well as your future. CD, I think it would depend on what kind of birth control. Semi-permanent birth control (IUDs, Naxplanon, Depo) are pretty much "there" all the time so little worry. Granted, the Nexplanon is the only one you can visibly show, but you get the idea.

respectmen -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 11:05:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free. Any man foolishly naive enough to believe a woman who says she is rigorously using birth control is deserving of what happens. Setting trust and relationship issues aside...people are great about talking about responsibility and yet, many men do not want to take on the simple, relatively little effort and time it takes to put on a spermicidal condom. Preferably a brand new one purchased recently that hasn't been out of his possession. Do that and you're being responsible...not just for her health but your own, as well as your future. This piece isn't about respsonsibility, this is about why does the justice system punish men but not women for this. Western women, the most privileged demographic on the planet, seem to get yet another pussy pass for their disgusting behaviour/actions.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 11:14:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free. Any man foolishly naive enough to believe a woman who says she is rigorously using birth control is deserving of what happens. Setting trust and relationship issues aside...people are great about talking about responsibility and yet, many men do not want to take on the simple, relatively little effort and time it takes to put on a spermicidal condom. Preferably a brand new one purchased recently that hasn't been out of his possession. Do that and you're being responsible...not just for her health but your own, as well as your future. This piece isn't about respsonsibility, this is about why does the justice system punish men but not women for this. Western women, the most privileged demographic on the planet, seem to get yet another pussy pass for their disgusting behaviour/actions. Like it or not, it takes two to make a baby. She canNOT get pregnant without his help. Tell me...why would you believe something someone told you when...if she's lying...your future is ruined? Like it or not, the male has responsibility for that, at the very least. And maybe the law does suck...but when there's an easy way to not worry about the law, then you'd have to be an idiot not to do it.

respectmen -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 11:21:23 AM)
So in other words you're saying its okay to only have legal consequences on men who do stealthing while women get a pussy pass? How very typical. Instead of trying to skirt around the issue of the double standard, why not talk about it?

respectmen -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 11:23:55 AM)
If the double standard was the other way around where men didn't get punished but women did, you would be able to hear the outrage from space. When it's men who have the raw deal and women are privileged, silence, hush everyone.

stef -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 11:58:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen So in other words you're saying its okay to only have legal consequences on men who do stealthing while women get a pussy pass? No, he's not saying that at all, you're just hearing what you want to hear to soothe your misplaced sense of babyman butthurt. quote: How very typical. Indeed.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 12:07:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen So in other words you're saying its okay to only have legal consequences on men who do stealthing while women get a pussy pass? How very typical. Instead of trying to skirt around the issue of the double standard, why not talk about it? Typical of what, respectmen? If you read my profile or any of my posts, you will see that I tend to the conservative side on many things...somewhat less so on social policies, although it depends on the issue. On this issue, it may well be a double standard but so what? I deal with a double standard every fucking day. I deal in providing health care. It is the PRACTICE of medicine, the PRACTICE of chiropractic, the PRACTICE of nursing, the PRACTICE of psychiatry, the PRACTICE of law, etc. But that's not the way a lot of people think, is it?...witness the lawsuits...as if we are in a BUSINESS, not a PRACTICE. And since it's a business, no mistakes are allowed. But what other business works that way? I've watched medical colleagues, chiropractic colleagues, dentists, my first attorney, etc. destroyed by board investigations and judgements...by lawsuits...and not over major fuck-ups but minor ones. Double standards? Sure...but that's the way of the world. If you don't like it, fight it. If it's an issue for you personally then recognize it and take responsibility in protecting your own actions. If all you want to do is rail against the system or women but not really do anything, then I have a new name for you...Don Quixote.

WhoreMods -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 12:59:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen So in other words you're saying its okay to only have legal consequences on men who do stealthing while women get a pussy pass? How very typical. Instead of trying to skirt around the issue of the double standard, why not talk about it? Which of the two people fucking is stuck with the results of the pregnancy in the event that the woman gets pregnant?

Greta75 -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 1:04:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee I think it would depend on what kind of birth control. Semi-permanent birth control (IUDs, Naxplanon, Depo) are pretty much "there" all the time so little worry. Granted, the Nexplanon is the only one you can visibly show, but you get the idea. Apparently Lucy here got pregnant despite having an IUD. I think alot of birth control don't guarantee you 100% fail safe, for a good reason. They aren't!

Greta75 -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 1:07:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen If the double standard was the other way around where men didn't get punished but women did, you would be able to hear the outrage from space. When it's men who have the raw deal and women are privileged, silence, hush everyone. A man who refuses to use a condoms while having sex and gets a baby as a result, is not punishment. That is him being careless! I'm sorry, it's his sperm. If his sperm doesn't get into her body. No pregnancy happens. The man has 101% full control over where he wants to deposit his sperm. There can't possibly be punishment IF he is responsible for it! You know what a woman's punishment is for having a baby? She either has to go through 9 months of inconvenience and birthing pain and a life time of responsibility, or the pain and trauma of abortion. When a woman gets unwantedly pregnant, she already gets punished for it. A man can just disappear. Or throw a few cent and stay far far away from her and the baby and let her deal with it alone. What punishment precisely does he suffer? Let's punish the woman the day men can get impregnated in their own bodies. PS: And I am speaking as a woman who have forced every male to use condoms when having sex with me, INCLUDING my x-husband during my marriage. As I was trying to be responsible. BOTH parties if they don't want kids, MUST use birth control! So zero sympathy for men refusing to use condoms! And them blaming it on the woman for her birth control failing on him!

kiwisub22 -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 1:20:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free. I'm a little confused about your comparisons. You are comparing a man removing a condom mid-intercourse to a woman not taking birth control. So you are expecting women to monitor a mans compliance mid-coitus , and giving men a pass on contraception accountability. Sorry, but if you don't want children then you use birth control, IUD or condom, or any combination of birthcontrol of your choice. Which really means, if men don't want to have children they need to use condoms - AND realize that they aren't 100% sure. Yep, if you are in a long term relationship, using condoms would suck, but as a male, that is the only way of being absolutely sure that there is contraception in play. Your other choice is to trust the woman and really , really hope that you aren't one of the unlucky ones. Ya know, Maury has built a whole tv show around this premise. And for those of us who have watched it, there is a lot of men who don't understand the concept of "insert penis, and out comes baby". On the other hand, if you are female and your partner wants bareback after putting on a condom and you in the least enjoy or get lost in what you do, there isn't too much you can do about it. You could just mentally stay out of the action and watch him, but in that case, why even have sex. Pregnancy is just one of the outcomes of this situation - hep. c. and AIDS spring to mind. One can be prevented by birth control - the other two can't.

tj444 -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 2:14:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcng4ccVlVI&list=WL&index=3 "Stealth" is another whopper feminist double standard. In short, stealth refers to tricking someone into parenthood. If a man secretly pokes holes in his condom, he can be in big trouble. When a woman lies about taking birth control and gets pregnant and forces a man to be her financial slave, she will still get off scot free. men that dont want kids or to support kids have that entirely within their control.. they can get a vasectomy.. if men dont want to do that then any resulting babies are their own damn fault..

respectmen -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 2:43:35 PM)
Did you people even watch the video? This isn't just about the woman not taking birth control. This is about a woman lying to get pregnant in purpose and giving the man a false sense of security. If you don't think there should be legal consequences for a woman to do this, you're just as twisted as the said women who do this.

respectmen -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 2:46:17 PM)
I'm sure you people would be all up in arms if there were no legal consequences for men who stealth women. Yet you people are trying to blame it on a man who is a victim of being stealthed by a woman. That's disgusting.

respectmen -> RE: Barbara Kay: No consequences for women who “stealth” men (5/13/2017 2:52:51 PM)
Let's use the same argument as the gynocentric idiots in this thread. I will lie to a woman and say I got an vasectomy because I secretly want a kid but this said woman doesn't. So if it goes ahead and she gets pregnant, can we all blame her and tell her she should have been on birth control? I should get away scot free from legal consequences? But this is all okay because the people in this thread are saying it should be all okay and it's all the man's fault if it happens the other way around. No double standards! [:D]

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