jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: Aylee Who violated the law and leaked the info to the press? Trump the President of the US, who has authority to release just about any info he wishes, may have said something that might tick off a third party, but never mentioned the third party. So some lesser individual who did not have authority to pass on that information and may not have had a right to that information did give that information to the press who would spread it far and wide, and somehow that leaker is noble? I don’t get the thought process. No, the president of the United States does not have the authority to release any information he pleases, there are regulations in place dictating who can relay classified information to whom. Any classified information needing a code word authorization is eyes only and cannot be dissimulated by anyone regardless of what office they hold. As for 'leakers' there is an interesting twist to this. If the leak does not actually included classified information or falls under the 'whistle blower' laws and regulations, the most that can happen is they be fired. For example, 'deep throat' who gave the information to the reporters about Watergate did nothing illegal by passing on the information. Basically, the individual who passed on the fact that President Trump gave highly classified information to the Russians while not actually explaining in detail what the information was in its entirety did not commit a criminal act. The simple truth is that half the bullshit that is pulled that is either unethical or illegal coming out of Washington comes from leakers who feel that something needs to be done, and therefore forces the issue by giving it to the press. And it is perfectly legal although it may cost them their job. Yes the president can declassify anything or name anyone to the classified list and share information with them. http://time.com/4780593/president-trump-russia-declassified/ You might want to rethink that, the president cannot pass on classified information to a representative of a foreign government unless that information would prevent a large scale attack. Especially if that intel is code word cleared as was the information he passed on to the Russians. In other words, your favorite jackass just did EXACTLY what Snowden did, John Anthony Walker did, as well as Aldrich Ames, and 33 other American government employees who passed classified information on to someone else. The only way this is allowed is if he has the approval of the agency head AND the all of his security advisors, and it has to be in writing, filed before the release of the information, and the members of the joint intelligence committee from BOTH parties are notified in advance. From the constitution: The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors Of course, when the news of Snowden's leaks first hit the press, your esteemed President Trump called him a traitor. So, what is so different about that and now, when Trump clearly did not go through the process to clear the release of information? Now, of course Trump is president. And of course, he is using his cliche double standard. When someone else leaks information, it is wrong and a criminal act. When his staff or he himself leaks information, it is perfectly acceptable. When Comey released the statement about reopening the inquiry into Hillary's email server, he was doing a public service, according to Trump. In other words, you cannot ethically condemn or criticize someone for doing the same fucking things you do. You people blasted Obama for that shit, but when Bush did it, it was fine. In other words, you people are fucking hypocrites of such proportions that it boggles the mind. You expect Democrats to uphold standards you clearly do not expect your own party members to adhere to. In the last election I did not vote for Trump, I did not vote for Hillary, I felt neither were qualified to be elected sanitation supervisor, let alone president of the United States. My reasons for not voting for Hillary are simple, she is a morally bankrupt individual with an absolute zero sense of self worth. If she had considered more than the 'political impact' when the news of Bill getting blowjobs in the oval office, she would have hired a divorce lawyer and left his happy ass. And considering how many times he cheated on her in the past, and the proof was there, all she could see was the political image. She is nothing more than a political whore with absolutely no redeeming qualities. As for Trump, I didnt vote for him because he lets his mouth over run his brain and makes promises to do things that are unethical, unconstitutional, and just plain fucking stupid. Add to that that he refuses to take advice, will not allow even constructive criticism, and lets his galactic sized ego run the show, he proves nothing more than he does not have the common sense or self control to make the important decisions. The worst of all this, if a qualified person with common sense, innate ability at diplomacy, and a high ethical standard were to ever run for president, he wouldn't make it past the first primary.
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Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think? You cannot control who comes into your life, but you can control which airlock you throw them out of. Paranoid Paramilitary Gun Loving Conspiracy Theorist AND EQUAL OPPORTUNI
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