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Yarashii1 -> RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH (5/19/2017 7:08:49 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
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ORIGINAL: Yarashii1
If the guy had been a 20-year-old white girl doing exactly the same thing, the public outrage would have been a bit more serious. We see black people getting shot and we say "what did that thug do?"
I agree we have a tendency to generalize quickly and sometime erroneously, but when 20 yr old white girls commit violent crime at the same rate as young black men do, then I would expect the same question to be applied to them.
which might be another way of saying, the blm folks might do well to address the problem of "thugs" in their midst.
meanwhile, I like to think that its just a matter of bad wording, but do you understand youre essentially saying that this guy was shot as punishment for his traffic offense? or that he was shot just because he was black---as I said to Vincent's op---right, because police NEVER shoot white people in similar situations.
yes it could have been handled with fines/slaps on the wrist---if the guy had done what the police told him to do.
how many dead policemen, because they gave too much leeway in unknown situations, are enough?
Thank you for the reply and I understand where you are going. Also there is so much depth to the situation, it is difficult to address everything said with a few short lines.
First and foremost, BLM (horrible name) is about more than JUST black people. It is made up by more than black people. It is a movement about equal treatment for people in our society. Many supporters of BLM see the treatment of certain groups as being marginalized. When talking about issues such as education, tax reform, and environmental protection blacks are not seen as stakeholders. BLM affiliates have shown support for all of these issues speaking on behalf of more than just the plight of blacks. They also go to and support vigils of people of other races to speak against police violence.
When talking about rates of crime you need not look past the NYPD statistics with stop and frisk. Stop and frisk which were to police drugs and illegal weapon possession. Like you profess, blacks (especially in the inner city) are considered to be criminals at a higher rate so why not stop and frisk them to improve the safety of the neighborhood? Yet even though NYPD has admitted to stopping far more people of color than whites, the success rate of finding criminal activity among the whites was actually higher. Weapons: 1/49 for whites but only 1/71 for latinos and only 1/93 for blacks. So they are almost twice as likely to find an illegal weapon on a white person. Drugs: 1/43 for whites, 1/57 for latinos, 1/61 for blacks. All the opposite order of the rate in which these people are unconstitutionally harassed to try to find crime. If your goal is to focus police activity on those most likely to commit a crime, you are arresting the wrong people. Yet media and pop culture have led us to believe that blacks are more likely to be criminals. So we as Americans support the idea of violations like this are good for stopping crime.
I am sure there are thugs in the BLM midsts and it would be great if BLM did something about them. There are thugs in the cops midst and it would be great if they did something about them too. The difference is BLM does not pick and choose who can become BLM yet they are all painted in the same light. Cops, on the other hand, do pick who they will let into their brotherhood yet somehow are not accountable for their actions.
I am definitely not saying that whites are not shot or killed in the same circumstances. I am noticing the difference between armed Bundy men in Nevada and Oregon getting shot at less than unarmed Souix Water Protectors. I am saying that when unarmed blacks take to the streets or social media to express outrage and injustice they are met with being placed on terrorist watch list and threats of national guard involvement. The example I gave will be lost on many because somehow after all that people have been shown, they refuse to see.
I do believe he should have listened to police commands. The penalty for not listening to those commands is not death. We have a legal system. I am all for justice, as long as justice is blind to race, color, religion, sexual preference......... I think what BLM is saying is that it is not. No one is saying the guy was innocent, what they are saying is that he should not be dead.
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