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RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert - 5/24/2017 4:44:28 PM   
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Comment by the Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, Harun Khan:

“My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

“This is horrific, this is criminal. May the perpetrators face the full weight of justice both in this life and the next.

“I pay tribute to the police and emergency services who have worked valiantly to save lives last night.

“They were helped by civilians who rushed in to offer their support.

“I urge all those in the region and around the country to pool together to support those affected.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3628055/manchester-arena-bombing-muslim-council-britain-latest/


The website of the muslim council of Britain.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/manchester-attack-muslim-council-of-britain-statement/



The Koran instructs Muslims to lie to infidels though, when in situations where their numbers are insufficient to destroy or enslave or otherwise conquer the enemies of Allah (all non-Muslims).

Knowing that, one is smart to be skeptical of their words in times like this

Actions, words - what speaks loudest


If they don't say anything, you bitch because they were quiet. When they do say something you don't believe them. Seems to me you are just looking for a reason to hate and it really doesn't matter how they react.

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RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert - 5/24/2017 4:50:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Comment by the Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, Harun Khan:

“My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

“This is horrific, this is criminal. May the perpetrators face the full weight of justice both in this life and the next.

“I pay tribute to the police and emergency services who have worked valiantly to save lives last night.

“They were helped by civilians who rushed in to offer their support.

“I urge all those in the region and around the country to pool together to support those affected.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3628055/manchester-arena-bombing-muslim-council-britain-latest/


The website of the muslim council of Britain.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/manchester-attack-muslim-council-of-britain-statement/



The Koran instructs Muslims to lie to infidels though, when in situations where their numbers are insufficient to destroy or enslave or otherwise conquer the enemies of Allah (all non-Muslims).

Knowing that, one is smart to be skeptical of their words in times like this

Actions, words - what speaks loudest


If they don't say anything, you bitch because they were quiet. When they do say something you don't believe them. Seems to me you are just looking for a reason to hate and it really doesn't matter how they react.


It's not a matter of hate. He made an unemotional and true statement. That is known as a matter of fact.

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RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert - 5/24/2017 4:57:35 PM   
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Tweeted by one Mancunian

Muslim taxi drivers giving free lifts, Sikh temples giving food & beds, locals giving blood in the morning. Proud to call Manchester home


I love that sort of stuff. Really causes a glow, doesn't it?

Meanwhile, a fund was set up (sadly, just closed at 6.00 pm) in order to put a big wedge behind the bar at a pub called the Turing Tap, close to the Manchester Royal Infirmary. The docs, nurses and paramedics can get some freebie drinks after no doubt arduous and harrowing stints.



What's a wedge?

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RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert - 5/24/2017 5:00:24 PM   
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its like using a collection jar, that is used to pay for the drinks ordered/food ordered.
A wedge of money to pay the costs used by the staff who are looking after the victims


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RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert - 5/24/2017 5:32:52 PM   
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It is against this backdrop that calls are made not to demonise all Muslims and to pull together as one community - not some kind of naive "welcome wagon" approach as you suggest.

Thanks for providing that perspective. I found it illuminating and candid. But I wonder if the need for such draconian police state measures, the losses of freedom and privacy, and to a measurable degree the problem itself, might have been avoided by a less generous immigration policy. All things considered, I find it hard to fault countries that choose a different path.

K.



Incidentally my personal view is that the state here in the UK has gone too far in some of its measures, especially when most of the good intelligence comes directly from the communities themselves. I'm not quite as relaxed as freedomdwarf1 about those things which potentially affect civil liberties which potentially have negative side-effects. I was just starting to tire of people on this thread implying that the UK is somehow soft on terrorism, when quite the opposite is true.

In terms of immigration, the vast majority of Muslims here were born here or migrated decades ago so that's old news. There was certainly a period in the nineties when we were not vigilant enough about some of the individuals we allowed to settle here, who subsequently attempted to stir up hatred in the resident Muslim community. It took far too long for the authorities to understand what was happening and act. A number of these people are currently detained indefinitely and have been removed from all positions of religious authority by the Muslim Council of Britain. That was however not a consequence of unfettered mass migration, rather a failure to properly vet individuals who came here with agendas, which should have been only too clear given their previous history of activism.

Unfortunately, in common with many other countries, we seem to be growing our own terrorists from people who were born and grew up here, rather than importing radicals from abroad. That's why community action is so important.

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RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert - 5/24/2017 5:38:33 PM   
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its like using a collection jar, that is used to pay for the drinks ordered/food ordered.
A wedge of money to pay the costs used by the staff who are looking after the victims




thanks, I hadn't heard that term before.

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