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jlf1961 -> RE: US air strike on IS killed 105 civilians in Iraq's Mosul (5/25/2017 6:09:53 PM)
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Okay, civilian casualties are bad, and the term 'collateral damage' is a bullshit but accurate way to put it.
However, lets put things in perspective.
WW2:
RAF 1000 plane raid on Cologne, May 20th, 1942 469 deaths, 5000 wounded, 45000 homeless
Dresden raid 25000 civilian deaths
Tokyo Firebombing raid 75000- 200000 civilian deaths
Hamburg raids July 24-30 1943 42600
Kassel Germany 22-23 October 43 10000
Darmstadt Germany 11-12 September 44 11500
Iraq occupation 2003-2011 250000 civilians
So, between 100 and 200 civilians killed in a bombing raid today, while it aint good, it sure as fuck aint as bad as it used to be, and those numbers listed were considered acceptable.
And the reason collateral damage is acceptable is the misguided idea that it will cause the civilians in occupied areas to rise up against the occupiers.
The problem with that philosophy is that it pretty much proves the point that the US and its allies do not care who they kill in their effort to hit worthy targets.
So, in essence the only real way to end the threat of ISIS is to carpet bomb the entire region with a mix of gp, fragmentation, incendiary, cluster bombs until there is nothing left breathing or growing, thus ending the threat of those already ISIS members and eliminating the possible recruit pool.
Of course, now ISIS is telling those wanting to join them from European countries to stay home and attack the infidels in their own countries.
And considering the prevailing conservative rants that all Muslims believe in terrorism and murder, Trump should put all US mosques under surveillance (unconstitutional as hell) it may actually come to that, or maybe taking the suggestion of a member of these boards from many years ago, microchip Muslims like we do our pets and Thoroughbred and Quarter horse race horses and Arabian show horses.
That way if a Muslim walks into a gun shop, or any place where the chemicals that can be used to make homemade explosives are sold, the chip will set off an alarm that can be transmitted to the local FBI or DHS office and they can be arrested.
You people do realize that the "All Muslims believe in terrorism" pretty much parallels the stuff said about Jews in the zionist papers and in the crap the Nazis preached in Germany right?
And of course the Islamic extremists are telling Muslims that the United States (and our allies) want nothing more than to see all Muslims dead.
As I said before, humans use any justification to kill other humans, we have gotten damn good at it. We spend billions of dollars researching ways to be more efficient in killing other humans.
We spend 3 times more than any other country on the planet in the US on our "Defense Department" which should have never been called that, it should have stayed the "War Department" since the bulk of the US military hardware is geared for first strike and offensive operations.
Trump might as well reinstate the draft. It will help the economy by lowering unemployment by a massive percentage, increase military contracts to Colt, Springfield Arms, American General, Lockheed, General Dynamics, and every other industrial firm that makes military hardware.
I mean there are 7.1 million people unemployed in the US as of April. That could be 7.1 million people in uniform!
And above all, rename the Defense department the War Department, as it was originally. The US has not been on a truly defensive footing at any one point in its history.
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