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Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends its al... - 5/25/2017 10:28:22 PM   
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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/trump-nato-lecture/index.html

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In Brussels, Trump charged that "many of these nations owe massive amounts of money from past years" and implied that these countries owed that money to the United States.
"This idea that countries owe money is flat-out wrong," said Rathke. Countries commit to the 2% target for defense spending -- a goal only five NATO members currently meet -- within their own countries. The money is not paid to a central fund, though Trump continues to allude to a system like that, raising questions about his ability or willingness to listen and learn.
"Anybody with NATO expertise knows that there is no such thing as 'debts' owed by NATO allies for what they haven't spent in the past," Rathke said. 

Trump not only "ignored the bargain that is at the heart of NATO," Rathke said. "What the President did today was demand the resources without stating the commitment -- there was no carrot, it was all stick." That combination "will weaken the perception of American commitment to NATO," Rathke said.
Burns agreed.
"Every president has reaffirmed collective defense and today was the day for him to do it," he said. "The Europeans expected it and he didn't do it...that isn't how you lead an alliance. Sometimes you have to give tough love. But today was a chance to be big and Reaganesque and he didn't do it."
Daalder and other analysts point out that the President's failure to reaffirm Article 5 could also hurt his own cause by making it harder for NATO leader to increase defense spending.
"It was not a particularly good way to convince members that they should invest," Daalder said. "Particularly allies who have fought and died on the part of the United States."
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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 2:18:18 AM   
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Those allies don't pay their fair share. That is one of the reasons they can have health care and a better infrastructure.

Fuck them. Trump is right.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 3:59:04 AM   
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Those allies don't pay their fair share.

What, like your country has always made a point of doing towards the UN and NATO both?

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 5:30:47 AM   
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Yes and his visits have deliberately avoided the press although many beauts and hypocrisy has been caught in those few fleeting comical appearances by the fuking clown

This also plays into the hands of Putin he must be pissing himself with laughter

Europe and that ilk is America buffer zone if anyone ever wondered :P

Whens he home anyway he must be due to go completely berserk ranting and raving with his lies on the tweeters

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 5:57:42 AM   
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We are talking here about 2% of GDP. That sum hardly covers health care. Trump is right but his public lecture was most undiplomatic and perhaps counterproductive because it supports his previous comments about the obsolescence of NATO. The alliance is a crucial component in the face of growing Russian activity.

I found more troubling the report I read that in her visit to the US Merkel had to remind Trump near a dozen times that he could not negotiate bilaterally with any of the EU nations. Mr. Trump is more than unprepared for his meetings with foreign leaders; he is ignorant. That reflects terribly on our nation.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 6:08:37 AM   
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Our nation is ignorant, and actually proud to be ignorant. It's an accurate representation of Americans as a group. None of that intellectual elitism here! Saves on all that learning and evidence and fact-finding.

THAT'S why Reagan, a disaster in many ways, is a hero: "It's just that simple."
He didn't simplify anything; he just promoted simplistic (and inaccurate) views.

That's what people wanted to hear. And it still is.

Trump is the pinnacle of that devolution.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 6:11:54 AM   
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They should be embarrassed, knowing that as their children were pulling the flesh of other human beings from his hair, he was right

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 6:34:39 AM   
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I cannot believe the way Trump pushed another member out of the way at the photocall yesterday (actually I can as it was Trump) so that he could be centre stage. Rude, ignorant and arrogant. You should all be embarassed by his behaviour.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 6:36:08 AM   
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I saw that. What a dick.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 6:43:42 AM   
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Oh I read that today let me see if I can find a clip two tics.....

Donald Trump pushes Montenegro Prime Minister Dusko Markovic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTOlNDMTvg

guffaws - what a guy, like some mad egotistical lying fuk idiot cock in heat.

You can actually just go to the googles and type in "Trump insane shit" and you will get sucked in for hours at a time:
No!
No way!
He really!
Nah!
Holy fuk!

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 7:28:14 AM   
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Those allies don't pay their fair share. That is one of the reasons they can have health care and a better infrastructure.

Fuck them. Trump is right.

T^T

your knowledge about what nato does and who pays what is as poor as trumps.
so fuck you both.

his ignorance , his bullishness, his stupidity, you ignore it, but the reason is, you love him, he is just like you,but rich.
Pushing the PM outta the way like a ten year old bully, not knowing that german cars are made in the US for the US market and employing americans, in mostly red states. South Carolina, VW and Alabama.
the US is OFTEN in arrears with its payments.
He is the epitome of the "ugliest american" alive.
You thought Obama made the world laugh at you.
you have NO idea what trump is doing to your collective psyche and reputation.





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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 7:43:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Those allies don't pay their fair share. That is one of the reasons they can have health care and a better infrastructure.

Fuck them. Trump is right.

T^T

your knowledge about what nato does and who pays what is as poor as trumps.
so fuck you both.

his ignorance , his bullishness, his stupidity, you ignore it, but the reason is, you love him, he is just like you,but rich.
Pushing the PM outta the way like a ten year old bully, not knowing that german cars are made in the US for the US market and employing americans, in mostly red states. South Carolina, VW and Alabama.
the US is OFTEN in arrears with its payments.
He is the epitome of the "ugliest american" alive.
You thought Obama made the world laugh at you.
you have NO idea what trump is doing to your collective psyche and reputation.






I love how President Trump makes your kind so insane by running circles around you that you act like you have been overdosing on meth since November or so

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 7:53:52 AM   
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True, the ignorant have their king.

Well, it's a republic. It's how things work.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 7:59:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Those allies don't pay their fair share. That is one of the reasons they can have health care and a better infrastructure.

Fuck them. Trump is right.

T^T

your knowledge about what nato does and who pays what is as poor as trumps.
so fuck you both.

his ignorance , his bullishness, his stupidity, you ignore it, but the reason is, you love him, he is just like you,but rich.
Pushing the PM outta the way like a ten year old bully, not knowing that german cars are made in the US for the US market and employing americans, in mostly red states. South Carolina, VW and Alabama.
the US is OFTEN in arrears with its payments.
He is the epitome of the "ugliest american" alive.
You thought Obama made the world laugh at you.
you have NO idea what trump is doing to your collective psyche and reputation.






I love how President Trump makes your kind so insane by running circles around you that you act like you have been overdosing on meth since November or so



And you are ignoring everything put in front of you with facts, truth or understanding.
Another trump moron who cant discuss the healthcare bill, budget or the russian investigations,
but screech about mooselambs, and tears for little girls that normally you would love to scare.
That you and YOUR kind(trump base) normalize what trump does is americas biggest problem.
you should apply for the position of taint licker


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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 8:02:14 AM   
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I love how President Trump makes your kind so insane by running circles around you that you act like you have been overdosing on meth since November or so


You seem to know quite a bit about the pharmacology of meth???Why is that?

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 8:15:33 AM   
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his ignorance , his bullishness, his stupidity, you ignore it, but the reason is, you love him, he is just like you,but rich.


Yes, this is pretty much it.
They love that Trump behaves exactly the way they would behave (or would want to behave) around world leaders.

He is the embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 8:18:22 AM   
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After the shove did you observe his body language and pointy figure and blithering retarded nonsense to someone...and he puffed his wee tantrum throwing chest out and how he basked in his own eloquent non-grandeur of incompetent fukery

The President of the United States - How did it come this. A complete imbecile and lying corrupt hissy throwing petulant curtsying bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpGsx2m75A




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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 8:19:49 AM   
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After all, it's the party that just elected a Congressional Representative in Montana who's charged with assault.

Which apparently helps to make him a hero.

It's become a weird country.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 8:22:41 AM   
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After the shove did you observe his body language and pointy figure and blithering retarded nonsense to someone...and he puffed his wee tantrum throwing chest didn't out and how he basked in his own eloquent non-grandeur on incompetent fukery

The President of the United States - How did it come this



It's an embarrassment and a nightmare for the majority of American voters. Is it hard to get Scottish citizenship?


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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 8:22:55 AM   
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I was in a few live chats yesterday, the trumpers were orgasmic over the violence by Gianforte, and threatening violence against libruls because Trump and Gianforte had the balls to rule the world.
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It was just as bad over at the other rw moron forums.





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