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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 6:45:20 PM   
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the US is OFTEN in arrears with its payments.


So the fuck what ? When the dirty work needs doing we send five thousand troops and they send what, five ?

Should just get the fuck out of NATO and let these hangers on learn to defend themselves.

You think the half a fucking trillion bucks a year defends the US ?

Bullshit.

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What do you think would happen to NATO if the US dropped out?


American men and women fought WW2 to stabilize the world. A stable world is in the interest of our national defense. That's why NATO was formed.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 7:56:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes I understand that. But i wonder what would happen to NATO if the US dropped out?

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 9:20:06 PM   
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Bottom line we shouldn't have to pay anything.

T^T

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 9:26:36 PM   
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at the best more debt and no allies
good luck with that idiocy.
its just what russia wants...
so it shall be
celebrate now.
trump trump hes our man, if he cant do it, no body can.
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay TRUMP

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 9:28:37 PM   
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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/26/2017 9:36:16 PM   
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Bottom line we shouldn't have to pay anything.

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I agree. I was just wondering, does NATO need the US in order to stay together? I mean, we could drop out of NATO and countries could just pay us directly if they wanted our protection.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 12:48:21 AM   
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Yes I understand that. But i wonder what would happen to NATO if the US dropped out?


Well - for example: no more Ramstein and Frankfurt airbases, no more Landstuhl hospital, no more US logistics in Europe - unless you pay!

US military personnell, when injured, get emergency medical treatment only in the US - if they survive a transatlantic transport.

So if anyone tells you you don't need NATO or your allies - ask your veterans.


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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 12:55:06 AM   
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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 2:30:30 AM   
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A Danger to the World
It's Time to Get Rid of Donald Trump
Donald Trump has transformed the United States into a laughing stock and he is a danger to the world. He must be removed from the White House before things get even worse.

© DER SPIEGEL A DER SPIEGEL Editorial by Klaus Brinkbäumer

Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States. He does not possess the requisite intellect and does not understand the significance of the office he holds nor the tasks associated with it. He doesn't read. He doesn't bother to peruse important files and intelligence reports and knows little about the issues that he has identified as his priorities. His decisions are capricious and they are delivered in the form of tyrannical decrees.


He is a man free of morals. As has been demonstrated hundreds of times, he is a liar, a racist and a cheat. I feel ashamed to use these words, as sharp and loud as they are. But if they apply to anyone, they apply to Trump. And one of the media's tasks is to continue telling things as they are: Trump has to be removed from the White House. Quickly. He is a danger to the world.

Trump is a miserable politician. He fired the FBI director simply because he could. James Comey had gotten under his skin with his investigation into Trump's confidants. Comey had also refused to swear loyalty and fealty to Trump and to abandon the investigation. He had to go.

Witnessing an American Tragedy

Trump is also a miserable boss. His people invent excuses for him and lie on his behalf because they have to, but then Trump wakes up and posts tweets that contradict what they have said. He doesn't care that his spokesman, his secretary of state and his national security adviser had just denied that the president had handed Russia (of all countries) sensitive intelligence gleaned from Israel (of all countries). Trump tweeted: Yes, yes, I did, because I can. I'm president after all.


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This was before this week at nato!!!


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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 3:25:25 AM   
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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 3:45:13 AM   
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True, the ignorant have their king.

Well, it's a republic. It's how things work.


Exciting new term: Kakistocracy - government by the stupidest and least qualified.

http://amroali.com/2016/05/kakistocracy-rule-by-the-stupid-unqualified/

http://www.newstatesman.com/world/2017/01/donald-trump-ushers-new-era-kakistocracy-government-worst-people



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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 3:52:47 AM   
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That was before UK PM Teresa May told him in public that no more sensitive information about Manchester will be shared with the US administration any more because of its leaking confidential communication like a sieve.


Thats what I thought, lol
thanks for that.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:03:02 AM   
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That was before UK PM Teresa May told him in public that no more sensitive information about Manchester will be shared with the US administration any more because of its leaking confidential communication like a sieve.


Yep. I was utterly dumbfounded to read of the identity of the Manchester Arena attacker here on CC first and from a US reader. Just appalling.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:09:04 AM   
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Of course removing all your bases, your "stuff" not to mention warheads, bombs, etc in europe without them getting blown up on route by Isis, or russia, would be a bit of a problem too.


Where do you get this warped shit ?

T^T

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:11:08 AM   
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So the fuck what ? When the dirty work needs doing we send five thousand troops and they send what, five ?

Were you capable of wiping your own arses in Iraq or Afghanistan?
If you want other countries to provide troops while your own vestigial remnants of armed forces dick around with drones and artillery, you can pay for it.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:12:17 AM   
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Bottom line we shouldn't have to pay anything.

T^T


I agree. I was just wondering, does NATO need the US in order to stay together? I mean, we could drop out of NATO and countries could just pay us directly if they wanted our protection.



Their infrastructure ans healthcare would suffer. Then the fuckhead know it alls who say we are stupid for not having single payer healthcare would get a taste of ONE of the reasons we don't have it. The other reason being the price gouging. (the cost of a hernia operation can vary tenfold)

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:13:41 AM   
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Well - for example: no more Ramstein and Frankfurt airbases, no more Landstuhl hospital, no more US logistics in Europe - unless you pay!


Says who ? We got a base in Cuba.

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:14:37 AM   
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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:17:44 AM   
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the ignorance is astounding isnt it


Sure is. You think we need them ? All we need is to be nice with Russia and China, maybe India. The rest an go fuck themselves.

Or do you think we are dependent on Luxenborg and Lithiuania n shit ?

Half a trillion a fucking year for this shit and most major terror attacks get right by. It is like they are not even defending this country.

On other forums, Australians seem to know what's best for us, I say we cut them off first.

T^T

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RE: Trump's ignorance embarrasses the US and offends it... - 5/27/2017 4:21:01 AM   
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© DER SPIEGEL A DER SPIEGEL Editorial by Klaus Brinkbäumer


Yeah, then Germany.

They got nothing to say. The US got caught spying on Germany and Angela Merkel bitched about it and then shut the fuck up in about three seconds.

Also get the fuck out of that useless UN.

T^T

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