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CitizenCane -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/9/2005 10:59:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Leonidas

Guilty, your honor!

No, I wouldn't send a message like that. Why would I care what a woman that I do not own eats, or doesn't eat? That said, I certainly find a particular body type appealing, and for me to take a slave, she would either have to be that type, or in my estimation, capable of being that type with proper training. Is that all I look at? No. Is it a standard of mine? Yes, it certainly is. When I own a girl, what she puts in her mouth, and when and how she does physical training is as much my decision as anything else about her. As with most things, my standards are pretty high, and not very flexible at all. Perfect obedience is required. I have the power over how the girl looks, and I take responsiblity for my own satisfaction with her. Obedience is her only concern.

It amazes me sometimes that a woman will allow a man to put rows of rings in her labia, or tatoo her, but bristles at the notion that he might shave a few inches off her backside. Maybe it would help to think of it as an "extreme body mod". I know that it's not true of everyone, but to me, a slave is a slave, and what she does from the time her eyes open, until they close, is in service. When, how, and what she eats, and when and how much she exercises, seem to me to be to be details of less than monumental proportion.

I"m sorry, but I don't buy the "if you want to change me you don't want me the way I am" argument. If that were the case, the word "training" would have no place in the vocabulary of the lifestyle. There would be no need to train a slave. If you didn't want them just the way they were, you'd just pass. Likewise, I don't much subscribe to the notion that having preferences and opinions about some attributes of a woman make one superficial, and others not so much. If one is fixated on a single attribute (any attribute) he's probably being short-sighted when it comes to choosing a slave, but hey, he has to live with his own choices.

SentForu, I think that the guy who sent you that was an ass. You don't belong to him, and aren't asking to (from what I understand) so whatever opinion he holds about you is his own, and should stay that way. To answer your original question though, yes, I do size up a woman who is showing an interest in being mine, and I do take a mental inventory of things (physical and not) that I would alter about her to suit me. It's a natural part of the process of deciding if a slave has the potential to please you, and just how much work you think making her that way will require. Granted, my opinions about this are not mainstream, and are probably a bit less romatic and more pragmatic than most.


That about sums it up.





EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/9/2005 11:09:10 AM)

I'm here to please the Owner, if it pleases him to have my head shaved, then it's done.

I'm sorry, are we supposed to give authority to someone only if they aren't going to use it for what they want? Are we supposed to say "I'll obey, unless you want to improve/change me to what you like"?

Now, it's irritating when some stranger says "You'd be great if you just lost ten pounds" but oh well. Life goes on. Mentally, I think I say that at least 3 times a week to people I pass by. People who actually say that are usually TRYING to get a rise out of you to get you to pay attention (think schoolyard boy punching you because he likes you), or think it's dominating and will turn you on because they pay attention to you. Trust me, people DO respond to that sometimes.

But, that's why you get to choose who you're owned by. If you want an owner who won't change anything about you, who thinks you're exactly perfect as you are now, that's great, go for it. I KNOW I'm not perfect, I KNOW I've got lots of changing to do, and I agree that the Owner would be the one in charge of how/when that change would occur.




lil1v -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/9/2005 12:17:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

I'm here to please the Owner, if it pleases him to have my head shaved, then it's done.

I'm sorry, are we supposed to give authority to someone only if they aren't going to use it for what they want? Are we supposed to say "I'll obey, unless you want to improve/change me to what you like"?

But, that's why you get to choose who you're owned by. If you want an owner who won't change anything about you, who thinks you're exactly perfect as you are now, that's great, go for it. I KNOW I'm not perfect, I KNOW I've got lots of changing to do, and I agree that the Owner would be the one in charge of how/when that change would occur.



Yes thats also why I label myself as sub not slave. I have limits. There are areas in which I will give up control totally and areas where I'm going to be a bit more reluctant until a bit more trust is built. There are things I will "argue" about and throw a "fit" over. And most of those aren't just cuz I want it a certain way, but due to deeper reasons often in the light of self preservation and protection.

I know I'm not perfect and thats in more areas than physical. While I don't want a Dom who'll leave me for putting on a few pounds, I also don't want a Dom who would insist I stay fat either.

I also know my limitations. I will never be a size 2, ok maybe if I'm dead my skeleton might fit into a size 2 but that would hardly be me. I also don't respond well to micromanaging. Micromanaging tends to bring out the rebel in me or I'll start seeing things as a futile effort and give up.

I know how I work. And maybe that makes me not a real submissive in many peoples eyes, thats fine. They can believe what they want.

I do however maintain that ... The key is finding the Dom that fits you.




Alida -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/10/2005 2:59:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lil1v


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ORIGINAL: srahfox

I do have to say something about the hormone imbalances. I have PCOS.

I have been a big girl most of my life. I know I will never be tiny. (I have a 40 inch ribcage even when I am small) However the PCOS does make it incredably hard to lose the wieght. It's a catch 22. If I lost it, my hormones would be better, but unless my hormones are better, it's REALLY hard to lose the wieght. I don't use it as a crutch, but it is, at least in part, a reason for why I am the way I am.


I have insulin resistance which tends to go hand in hand with PCOS. So i know first hand how hard it is to lose weight. With my family this is genetic, not a lazy issue.


Greetings! My first post on the forums and it would have to be here. ;)

It was written above:
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The "horomone imbalances" that many blame weight issues upon aren't genetically predetermined, they're the result of a sedintary life and a poor diet. On the subject, something that you won't find in a "get fit" book for women, but which is very relevant, are your hormone levels. Regular, vigorous sexual use, and regular orgasm (given to you by a man, self-diddling doesn't count) will do more to balance you than what the pharmacutical giants are pushing this week.


I too am IR and PCOS. I also have a borderline underactive thyroid. hormone imbalances are far too real to be in quotes. I lost 40 pounds, with the help of prescribed meds (BC pill and metformin, FYI) Richard Simmons (who, despite with the journal quoted says, does NOT have products to hawk) and resistance exercise. I lost the weight in 6 months, after trying for 10 YEARS without the meds and the knowledge. This type of comment is simply uninformed, and if you are enfocing this on a slave of yours it is UNsafe and UNsane.

And why does 'self diddling' not count? does a man's penis have some magic power in it it can magically regulate hormones? Is this 'power' diluted in condoms (again, SSC?) And, if so, why did I spend 4 years in infertility treatments?

[I]Please note: I do NOT know all about the situation. I am ONLY responding to the percieved 'brush off' and arrogance of the situation at hand. If you have had your slave at a medical physical, and had a registered dietician help perscribe a diet/exercise routine that is appropriate for her health, then good for you! The post above just read to me like 'eat less and move your butt!' which is NOT a wise move. Taking away processed foods is good (to limits--- I'm assuming you are not putting her on a 'raw' diet?), and exercise in limits is good--- hopefully less than 1 hour at a time (more than that lowers the immune system) and not every day?I certainly advocate weight lifting--- much more valuable than just cardio and dieting.)[/I]

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oh.. also for anyone with insulin resistance or PCOS, my Doc recommended the South Beach diet which I've been on since Jan and I've lost 20 lbs (without an ounce of exercise mind you). So it works.. or is working for me. Now just to get my timid large butt to the gym.


South beach isn't a bad diet for PCOS, from what I have heard (SugarBusters is similar) but I had great success with the American Heart Association recommended Richard Simmons. He balances your diet, portions your food and you can buy his plan 'ala cart' at WalMart (or his web page) for $15.00--- nothing more to buy ever. He follows the American Diabetic Association guidlines, so if you are PCOS or Insulin Resitant, it may help.

Alida




sweetpettjenny -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/11/2005 3:53:20 AM)

I am a slave and once in a relationship if my owner wanted me changed it would be his choice, although i most likely wouldn't choose to submit to someone who belittled me off the bat. Its all about choices until you make the leap.




ThorsHammer -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/11/2005 7:54:03 PM)

Myra ...... I think you were being kind to just call this idiot rude and obnoxious! He is being a "hemoragic anal orifice." (Bleeding ass hole)

In my profile, I clearly indicate that I prefer my lady to be height/weight/body structure proportionate or willing to become so. Does this mean I'm excluding any lady because of her weight ... not at all.

Once we determine that we have the potential for a good and exciting D/s relationship, that means as her Dominant I am now RESPONSIBLE for her safety! She can know, beyond any doubt, that I would do nothing to cause her any permenant harm. Of course agreed to play is an exception.

In a response to this thread, someone (I apologize for not remembering your handle) mentioned that the process of weight lose could have some potential health problems. I agree. If my submissive lady was "overweight" according to my standards, the very first thing I would do is have a physical exam conducted by a qualified physician with the purpose being the best way for her to lose weight. Costly .... maybe but as her Dominant, I'm responsible for her safety. Just as I am responsible for her safety during our play.

Being a Dominant is not a license to be rude. In my opinion, being a Dominant means that we must show to prospective submissives, and the rest of the world, that we are in control of ourselves. If not, how can you trust us to be in control of you.

Just my thoughts

Donn
AKA Thors Hammer





SecretDomme -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/12/2005 6:07:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SentForu

A LITTLE DIETING IS ALL U NEED



A person who can't take the time to type out the word "you" doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, in my opinion.

Be well,
Julie




Vjklander -> RE: Just Stewing... (4/12/2005 6:34:51 PM)

I consider attitude to be about 99.9% of what I am interested in a girl. Everything else is of minor importance. Then again, I'm amused by the women who rant constantly about how their weight doesn't matter, then destroy their bodies by getting stomach stapling.
In any internet interactions, I find the ability to be benignly amused of paramount convenience.




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