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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/30/2017 11:02:24 PM   
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Tibet needs to figure out how to be independent and not rely on the US.

How is the US responsible for Tibet's welfare?

Why not Canada or Germany help? Or UK? Why is US responsible for taking care of everything that goes on in the world?

Gosh, US is like the big Nanny of the world! Except, now they can't afford to be. They are drowning in debt themselves.

What makes you think other countries don't contribute to foreign aid? The U.S. does give more, but they are certainly not alone.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-doners-of-foreigner-aid-map.html


Because your media don't report about other countries it does not mean that it does not happen.
I am not sure about Canada. Germany/EU and, to my knowledge, more than other, Switzerland and India, support Tibetans since the occupation of Tibet in 1959.


Do your media tell you about the US not paying their promised contributions to the UNHCR?

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/30/2017 11:07:32 PM   
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Tibet needs to figure out how to be independent and not rely on the US.

How is the US responsible for Tibet's welfare?

Why not Canada or Germany help? Or UK? Why is US responsible for taking care of everything that goes on in the world?

Gosh, US is like the big Nanny of the world! Except, now they can't afford to be. They are drowning in debt themselves.


LOL... independent?
You mean, as in, stop being part of China?

I'm pretty sure they would love that, but the moment someone says something they're abducted by government agents and then dropped off in the middle of nowhere with a kidney missing.

I haven't really looked into this issue, but to me this doesn't seem like something Trump would be doing to stand up to China-- it seems more like appeasement.
It seems to me that China doesn't really like the idea of a stronger Tibet.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/30/2017 11:16:03 PM   
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G 7 countries are "supposed" to give, 0.7% gdp for foreign aid.
Thats total.
this is from the oecd..and bbc last year
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39658907


WHile the US gives the most in dollar amount, their share turns out to be ony 0.18%
Now minus the money trump chopped off money for reproductive services and now tibet..

we have several thriving communities of about five thousand tibetan refugees in canada, the group living in Toronto have their own neighbourhood "little tibet" in Toronto, its fascinating to visit.



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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/30/2017 11:33:01 PM   
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It seems to me that China doesn't really like the idea of a stronger Tibet.


China is China and thinks everything that looks Chinese belongs to them.
They have always been tyrants from the beginning of time.

But what makes Tibet so special that it needs stronger protection than some other oppressed places.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/30/2017 11:34:52 PM   
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What makes you think other countries don't contribute to foreign aid? The U.S. does give more, but they are certainly not alone.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-doners-of-foreigner-aid-map.html

If other countries are taking care of Tibet too, then US dropping out should be no big deal! Another country just needs to step up to offer more if they care to . Every country needs to consider their own resources and what is sensible spending for their situation.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/31/2017 2:21:36 AM   
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On the specific issue; I've always objected to providing humanitarian charity out of public coffers.

I don't think it is the business of a government whose mandate is to protect the population from enemies foreign and domestic to be in the business of providing charity to other countries while we have homeless and starving within our own borders.

Do I think the Tibetans deserve some aid; hell yes. But I don't think that is the business of our federal government to provide that aid.



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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/31/2017 2:25:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		So $19 million can defend them against China ?

We need to have a long talk with these military contractors.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/31/2017 3:13:21 AM   
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So $19 million can defend them against China ?

We need to have a long talk with these military contractors.

T^T


Well how much do you think it costs to start up a terrorist group?

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 5/31/2017 3:57:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Against China ? They'll burn Tibet to the ground if they get pissed off, with the people there.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 6/1/2017 6:21:55 AM   
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They have to finance those tax breaks for Rich folks somehow.


The horror

Allowing a free people to keep their own money

What next, stopping slave-trading Muslim hordes?

Oh, the humanity


Well, then. how about letting me keep MY fucking money? Oh yeah, I wasn't born with a platinum spoon in my mouth and can therefore afford to buy and sell congressmen.

The "Trickle down theory" was roundly disproved 35 years ago.

As for slave trading Muslim hordes, are you talking about the Saudis? http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm b-b-b-b-b-b-but they're our allies (unless they're hijacking our planes to blow hell out of thousands of our citizens) aren't they Comrade Saudi lover.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 6/1/2017 6:53:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		The trickled down theory has many monikers
1. Pyramid scheme
2. Quantitative easing
3. The rich with their piggy snouts deep in the trough
etc

And its never worked, ever. Why are we a talking about this.

oh for Christ sake was it $19 million! That wont even get you a round of gold golf at the corrupt cock wombles holiday home.

The rich countries - I forget whats its called are supposed to give 1-2% GDP to the poor paupers - something like that anyone know what its called and the amount?

Edit ah lucy was it 0.7% see its a real thing ;)

Is it a G7, ors it G6 now, G9 or G20 thingy.

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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 6/1/2017 6:54:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
As for slave trading Muslim hordes, are you talking about the Saudis? http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm b-b-b-b-b-b-but they're our allies (unless they're hijacking our planes to blow hell out of thousands of our citizens) aren't they Comrade Saudi lover.

Dubai are pretty keen on slavery-in-all-but-name indentured servitude as well. Of course, it would be reprehensible to suggest that there's anything anti-western about the attitude of the fourteenth century style monarchy of a country where el presidente owns a golf course, wouldn't it?


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RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy - 6/1/2017 7:53:29 AM   
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The trickled down theory has many monikers
1. Pyramid scheme
2. Quantitative easing
3. The rich with their piggy snouts deep in the trough
etc

And its never worked, ever. Why are we a talking about this.

oh for Christ sake was it $19 million! That wont even get you a round of gold golf at the corrupt cock wombles holiday home.

The rich countries - I forget whats its called are supposed to give 1-2% GDP to the poor paupers - something like that anyone know what its called and the amount?

Edit ah lucy was it 0.7% see its a real thing ;)

Is it a G7, ors it G6 now, G9 or G20 thingy.

Well #1 and #2 are very different from trickle down theory. And #3 isn't necessarily bad, depending on what we get for our investment.

But yeah, simply cutting taxes isn't magic. While the Laffer Curve is a fine theory, where we are on it has never been where proponents claim, with disastrous results...except for the top income level.

I'm actually in favor of rolling back ALL of the Bush tax cuts, including those on the middle class (you didn't notice the bump up, and you won't notice the bump down) and FICA.

After the 2008 crash, and since, there's a lot of money just sitting around, in businesses and in the hands of wealthy investors, because it's cheap to hang on to it right now. Cutting taxes will do NOTHING to spur investment in this climate. In fact, arguably we should raise taxes to pull out the excess monetary supply.

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