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Musicmystery -> Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (6/8/2017 3:13:57 PM)

Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps

So much for pro-business.

* Trump wants to charge retailers a fee for accepting food stamps as payment from the poor.
* Separately, the Trump administration is proposing $191 billion in cuts over the next decade to the food stamp program.

The White House proposal to overhaul the U.S. food stamp program — and the deep cuts it would make to benefits for the poorest households — has sparked public outrage on both sides of the aisle. But there's another change tucked into the proposal that businesses say caught them off guard — and could wind up costing them more than $2 billion.

That provision is a new fee that the White House wants to charge retailers that accept food stamps.

The proposal surprised the grocery industry, which is already fighting to block the controversial border adjustment tax on Capitol Hill. That measure would lower the cost of exports but raise the price of imports and has been widely opposed by chain retailers. Trump's food stamp fee, however, would fall squarely on supermarkets.

Grocers oppose the "flawed policy of imposing fees on food retailers in order to reduce the cost of the federal government's nutrition assistance benefits to the most needy in our society," said Leslie G. Sarasin, president of the Food Marketing Institute, which represents the industry.
Changes hit congressional opposition

But the proposed changes are already running into obstacles on Capitol Hill — even among Republicans. Rep. Michael Conaway of Texas and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, the chairmen of the House and Senate agriculture committees, have signaled they would fight the measure.

"We need to take a look at our nutrition assistance programs to ensure that they are helping the most vulnerable in our society," they said in a statement.

"Implementing cuts to that extent are going to have stark consequences for retailers, especially in low-income communities." -Brian Lang, director of healthy food access, The Food Trust

More: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/trump-wants-to-start-charging-stores-to-accept-food-stamps.html




sloguy02246 -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (6/8/2017 5:06:57 PM)

But...but...the stamps would then be issued with the "Trump" brand on them, just like the Trump steaks and the Trump vodka that all those "welfare queens" are now buying with food stamps.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/25/2017 3:57:46 PM)

Yeah.




MasterG2kTR -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/25/2017 6:26:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps

So much for pro-business.

* Trump wants to charge retailers a fee for accepting food stamps as payment from the poor.
* Separately, the Trump administration is proposing $191 billion in cuts over the next decade to the food stamp program.

The White House proposal to overhaul the U.S. food stamp program — and the deep cuts it would make to benefits for the poorest households — has sparked public outrage on both sides of the aisle. But there's another change tucked into the proposal that businesses say caught them off guard — and could wind up costing them more than $2 billion.

That provision is a new fee that the White House wants to charge retailers that accept food stamps.

The proposal surprised the grocery industry, which is already fighting to block the controversial border adjustment tax on Capitol Hill. That measure would lower the cost of exports but raise the price of imports and has been widely opposed by chain retailers. Trump's food stamp fee, however, would fall squarely on supermarkets.

Grocers oppose the "flawed policy of imposing fees on food retailers in order to reduce the cost of the federal government's nutrition assistance benefits to the most needy in our society," said Leslie G. Sarasin, president of the Food Marketing Institute, which represents the industry.
Changes hit congressional opposition

But the proposed changes are already running into obstacles on Capitol Hill — even among Republicans. Rep. Michael Conaway of Texas and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, the chairmen of the House and Senate agriculture committees, have signaled they would fight the measure.

"We need to take a look at our nutrition assistance programs to ensure that they are helping the most vulnerable in our society," they said in a statement.

"Implementing cuts to that extent are going to have stark consequences for retailers, especially in low-income communities." -Brian Lang, director of healthy food access, The Food Trust

More: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/trump-wants-to-start-charging-stores-to-accept-food-stamps.html


I highly doubt that......the retailers will simply pass the cost on to rest of us.....[>:]




Hillwilliam -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/25/2017 6:31:04 PM)

FR to the OP. So, basically, he's once again screwing the people who voted for him.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/25/2017 7:37:47 PM)

I remember the Reagan administration doing not much different to cut costs, the biggest ridicule came when they tried to claim ketchup packets as a vegetable serving in school lunches.

lets see what rump pulls out his ass just as stupid..... u know its coming.

tax cuts for the wealthy seems always a trigger for cutting food to children.

of course, the people who voted for him never paid much attention to tax cut history or they'd of thought differently.

The only thing that "trickles down" to the lower classes are higher prices and the wealthy's tax burden.





WhoreMods -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 3:09:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

of course, the people who voted for him never paid much attention...



Fixed the redundancy in that post for you.
[;)]




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 6:12:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

I remember the Reagan administration doing not much different to cut costs, the biggest ridicule came when they tried to claim ketchup packets as a vegetable serving in school lunches.

lets see what rump pulls out his ass just as stupid..... u know its coming.

tax cuts for the wealthy seems always a trigger for cutting food to children.

of course, the people who voted for him never paid much attention to tax cut history or they'd of thought differently.

The only thing that "trickles down" to the lower classes are higher prices and the wealthy's tax burden.



The only agenda he has is easier conditions for wealthy business owners.

And even that one is fuzzy on the details, or even the plan.




Aylee -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 6:51:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps

So much for pro-business.

* Trump wants to charge retailers a fee for accepting food stamps as payment from the poor.
* Separately, the Trump administration is proposing $191 billion in cuts over the next decade to the food stamp program.

The White House proposal to overhaul the U.S. food stamp program — and the deep cuts it would make to benefits for the poorest households — has sparked public outrage on both sides of the aisle. But there's another change tucked into the proposal that businesses say caught them off guard — and could wind up costing them more than $2 billion.

That provision is a new fee that the White House wants to charge retailers that accept food stamps.

The proposal surprised the grocery industry, which is already fighting to block the controversial border adjustment tax on Capitol Hill. That measure would lower the cost of exports but raise the price of imports and has been widely opposed by chain retailers. Trump's food stamp fee, however, would fall squarely on supermarkets.

Grocers oppose the "flawed policy of imposing fees on food retailers in order to reduce the cost of the federal government's nutrition assistance benefits to the most needy in our society," said Leslie G. Sarasin, president of the Food Marketing Institute, which represents the industry.
Changes hit congressional opposition

But the proposed changes are already running into obstacles on Capitol Hill — even among Republicans. Rep. Michael Conaway of Texas and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, the chairmen of the House and Senate agriculture committees, have signaled they would fight the measure.

"We need to take a look at our nutrition assistance programs to ensure that they are helping the most vulnerable in our society," they said in a statement.

"Implementing cuts to that extent are going to have stark consequences for retailers, especially in low-income communities." -Brian Lang, director of healthy food access, The Food Trust

More: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/trump-wants-to-start-charging-stores-to-accept-food-stamps.html



I don't suppose you have any numbers on this do you? Such as:

How much is it costing the SNAP program for the EBT cards to be used at stores?

How much are stores going to be charged for use of the EBT cards?

What is the end goal? Less use at convenience stores or something?

Do the proposed cuts match the estimate of how many people will stop needing food stamps because they are able to go back to work?

You may or may not know the answers to these, and I am going to make a set of curtains today so I am not really up for googling.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 7:22:13 AM)

Whatever the answers, it's still not a pro-business move: it's pushing government expenses onto business.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 2:17:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

FR to the OP. So, basically, he's once again screwing the people who voted for him.

Well, this is a good one, because he can screw the poor and businesses at the same time.




tamaka -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 4:50:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Whatever the answers, it's still not a pro-business move: it's pushing government expenses onto business.



Why not? Businesses are pushing their expenses onto government.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 4:56:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Whatever the answers, it's still not a pro-business move: it's pushing government expenses onto business.



Why not? Businesses are pushing their expenses onto government.


Normally, leftists are all about taxing businesses as much as possible

Cap and trade, for example - massive tax on business, and everyone else




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 6:52:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Whatever the answers, it's still not a pro-business move: it's pushing government expenses onto business.



Why not? Businesses are pushing their expenses onto government.

Whichever way you want to spin this, it remains an anti-business move.




tamaka -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 6:54:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Whatever the answers, it's still not a pro-business move: it's pushing government expenses onto business.



Why not? Businesses are pushing their expenses onto government.

Whichever way you want to spin this, it remains an anti-business move.


Poor Walmart. Whatever will the Waltons do?




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 7:07:52 PM)

Continue to be 14.5% of the grocery industry?




tamaka -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/26/2017 7:29:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Continue to be 14.5% of the grocery industry?


I suppose if companies paid their workers a living wage then we wouldn't need to spend 2% of our national budget on food stamps. Just another way that businesses are using taxpayer money to subsidize them.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/28/2017 1:14:10 PM)

True. But irrelevant to the current point: a real bad policy proposal.




thompsonx -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/28/2017 1:21:13 PM)

ORIGINAL: Aylee


Have you ever considered educating yourself about the facts before opening your mouth and letting everyone know how phoquing stupid you are?




thompsonx -> RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps (7/28/2017 1:23:05 PM)


ORIGINAL: tamaka

I suppose if companies paid their workers a living wage then we wouldn't need to spend 2% of our national budget on food stamps. Just another way that businesses are using taxpayer money to subsidize them.


Have you ever considered educating yourself about the facts before opening your mouth and letting everyone know how phoquing stupid you are?





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