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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:17:40 AM   
BamaD


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Nineteen Eighty-Four is simply a great read unlike your lying drivel. But we should expect no more from a right wing extremist such as your self.

But I will entertain you. Name me one person on this forum, no matter their country, who agrees with your doolally synopsis?
Have you even read the book?

I think the book was more a prophetic warning in nature about the Great Satan, and you lot are just about there.

His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles, so that the historical record always supports the party line remind of you anyone? guffaws

Strange some of you lot I must have also read that one about 15-16.

Yes I have read the book.
It was not about any particular dictator but the dangers of allowing the government to get to much power.

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:29:44 AM   
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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:31:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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The premise is that at some point government (men in power) can become so powerful, monitoring so invasive, and members of society so completely helpless before the powers that be that there would be no recourse if and when really bad people managed to gain control

The most sickening crimes that can be imagined could be routinely committed by that government against everyone living forevermore

The people powerless

History has clear examples of how this happens. It isn't fiction.

Imagine one world government with North Korea's Dear Leader, or Saddam Hussein in charge (Marxists / Nationalist Socialists both).





Or Donald Trump



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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Can you post without just making up shit? None of that is true.

Repeating things doesn't make them true. Whatever the "alternative facts" talking point factory tells you.

Or however much you giggle like a drooling inmate.


You walked right into that one, idiot. Way to prove my point. "TRUMP IS SADDAM HUSSEIN!!! TRUMP IS KIM JONG-UN!!!"

Deny it like the fool you are, makes it all the more hilarious

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:39:07 AM   
BoscoX


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Yes I have read the book.
It was not about any particular dictator but the dangers of allowing the government to get to much power.


And one party media...

RUSH: In the LA Times today, how predictable is this? How often have we seen this? The LA Times has a story which purports to be written from the opinion-free middle. It’s a piece of consternation and hand-wringing over the wide gap between the mainstream media and conservative media and their audiences. They’re practically crying in frustration over this division. And the focus of the story is the Susan Rice story.



The LA Times says on CNN and CBS and ABC what you have is the entire premise being ridiculed and CNN proudly refusing to even cover it and telling their viewers to ignore it. Whereas all over conservative media, the details of the story, Susan Rice lying about this, lying about that, requesting the unmasking of Trump transition and administration officials and how conservative media’s driving it, conservative media’s focused on it, their audiences love it.

I am cited as the leader of a massive audience, and they cite that on the left it’s not even a story, nobody’s even curious, it’s no big deal, nothing to see here. And the story says it’s just terrible. This is not good. And it boils down to the fact that we are not all working off the same set of facts. That has become the new word choice, the new sentence or philosophy to express the problem with the new or the alternative media.

You heard Ted Koppel in his CBS Sunday interview with Hannity and his whole report that conservative media is the problem, that we are bad for America, because we do not devote ourselves to facts. We have simply attracted an audience based on like-minded ideologies. We lead with our ideology, conservatism, and we ignore the facts. The left is nothing but fact oriented and fact serious. And we don’t.

And so their impression or their purpose here is to lament and pine away for the days when we were all dealing with the same set of facts. And what they really mean is, nothing new here. They pine for the days when they decided, not the facts, they decided what you were gonna know and what you weren’t gonna know and what you were gonna be told to think about what you were gonna be allowed to know.

They’re a monopoly. It’s amazing. They lost their monopoly, it will be 30 years ago in August, the beginning of the end of the news media monopoly. August 1st, 1988. You can trace it back to that date. So after almost 30 years they still haven’t come to grips with it. They do not know how to once again become dominant. And, by the way, this is why I believe the media has transmogrified, morphed into the leaders of the progressive agenda advancement, as opposed to Democrats.



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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:39:42 AM   
BamaD


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are you on meths?

Hardly.
Do you understand that in the 1984 society not one bit of power was taken, bit by bit it was given because it made the people "safer" eventually the people were safe from everything.
they just couldn't do anything because everything, any question , was a threat to stability.
Read Greta's first post, she admitts they have freely given that much power but it is ok because the wrong people aren't in charge, yet

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:43:52 AM   
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There are many better read people on here than me.



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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:47:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

The premise is that at some point government (men in power) can become so powerful, monitoring so invasive, and members of society so completely helpless before the powers that be that there would be no recourse if and when really bad people managed to gain control

The most sickening crimes that can be imagined could be routinely committed by that government against everyone living forevermore

The people powerless

History has clear examples of how this happens. It isn't fiction.

Imagine one world government with North Korea's Dear Leader, or Saddam Hussein in charge (Marxists / Nationalist Socialists both).





Or Donald Trump



http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5041981


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Can you post without just making up shit? None of that is true.

Repeating things doesn't make them true. Whatever the "alternative facts" talking point factory tells you.

Or however much you giggle like a drooling inmate.


You walked right into that one, idiot. Way to prove my point. "TRUMP IS SADDAM HUSSEIN!!! TRUMP IS KIM JONG-UN!!!"

Deny it like the fool you are, makes it all the more hilarious

Where would one even start with such moronic reading comprehension?

Yuk it up. Giggle and drool. But it still won't be what I said, and repeating it still won't make it true.

Don't you get bored of yourself?

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 11:57:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Have you read the book...yes or no?

There are many better read people on here than me.



Did you miss when I told you before that I have read the book.

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 12:01:08 PM   
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Bored? No. I am having a great time helping you prove what a fool you are every time you blindly attack me as I post the facts that drive you and your retard troll posse even more insane

Bored, never



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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 12:06:59 PM   
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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 12:11:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Have you read the book...yes or no?

There are many better read people on here than me.



Did you miss when I told you before that I have read the book.


They're all retards, I swear to dog they are...

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 12:36:26 PM   
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To listen to the British tell it you would think that 1984 was a brillant vision of the future.
You are safe because big brother watches your every move.
You are safe because there is a cop on every corner.
You are safe because we, not you are responsible for your well being.
You are safe because big brother is watching out for you.

Maybe we get a bad sampleing of British opinion, but the majority of those we have on here seem to think that way.

I remember Nineteen Eighty-Four is simply a great read unlike your lying drivel. But we should expect no more from a right wing extremist such as your self.

But I will entertain you. Name me one person on this forum, no matter their country, who agrees with your doolally synopsis?
Have you even read the book?

I think the book was more a prophetic warning in nature about the Great Satan, and you lot are just about there.

His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles, so that the historical record always supports the party line remind of you anyone? guffaws

explain please?



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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 12:37:56 PM   
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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 1:01:49 PM   
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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 1:18:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I remember you saying

To listen to the British tell it you would think that 1984 was a brillant vision of the future.
You are safe because big brother watches your every move.
You are safe because there is a cop on every corner.
You are safe because we, not you are responsible for your well being.
You are safe because big brother is watching out for you.

Maybe we get a bad sampleing of British opinion, but the majority of those we have on here seem to think that way.

I remember Nineteen Eighty-Four is simply a great read unlike your lying drivel. But we should expect no more from a right wing extremist such as your self.

But I will entertain you. Name me one person on this forum, no matter their country, who agrees with your doolally synopsis?
Have you even read the book?

I think the book was more a prophetic warning in nature about the Great Satan, and you lot are just about there.

His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles, so that the historical record always supports the party line remind of you anyone? guffaws

explain please?



I have already told you twice that I have read the book. If you can't follow that then you have no chance of understanding 1984. Personally I thought Animal Farm was a better read
but not as good a book.

Read Animal Farm, it is more on your level.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 1:32:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Nineteen Eighty-Four is simply a great read unlike your lying drivel. But we should expect no more from a right wing extremist such as your self.

But I will entertain you. Name me one person on this forum, no matter their country, who agrees with your doolally synopsis?
Have you even read the book?

I think the book was more a prophetic warning in nature about the Great Satan, and you lot are just about there.

His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles, so that the historical record always supports the party line remind of you anyone? guffaws

Strange some of you lot I must have also read that one about 15-16.

Yes I have read the book.
It was not about any particular dictator but the dangers of allowing the government to get to much power.


The difference is that Orwell can make a distinction between scope and nature.
You are too simple for that.

I bet you think that only 2 kinds of governments even exist.

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 1:34:00 PM   
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To listen to the British tell it you would think that 1984 was a brillant vision of the future.
You are safe because big brother watches your every move.
You are safe because there is a cop on every corner.
You are safe because we, not you are responsible for your well being.
You are safe because big brother is watching out for you.

Maybe we get a bad sampleing of British opinion, but the majority of those we have on here seem to think that way.

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We SAtuRaTe yOur aLPHA brain WAveS, ThIs is nOt A DrEAm The wiZaRd of Oz, shoES, CaLcuLUs, DECorAtiNG, FrIDGE SProcKeTs, be VeRy sCareDed – SLoBbers,We DeEManDErs Sloowee DAnCiNG, SmOOches – whisper whisper & CaAkEE

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 1:48:24 PM   
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what did you answer

To listen to the British tell it you would think that 1984 was a brillant vision of the future.
You are safe because big brother watches your every move.
You are safe because there is a cop on every corner.
You are safe because we, not you are responsible for your well being.
You are safe because big brother is watching out for you.

Maybe we get a bad sampleing of British opinion, but the majority of those we have on here seem to think that way.

I have told you three times that I have read the book. Unless you count the two times I have reminded you that I told you three times that I read it.

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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 2:14:24 PM   
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RE: 1984 - 6/11/2017 2:37:50 PM   
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