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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 8:22:16 PM   
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That damn Constitution. If we could just get rid of law, order, and principles, we could seriously fuck up shit in this country!


Actually the Constitution isn't that useful. For example, we are supposed to have freedom of religion but the Mormons aren't allowed to practice polygamy legally. You can only be legally be married to one person whereas some religions allow for multiple marriages.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 8:24:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 8:29:44 PM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


Because the 2nd Ammendment is the people's ultimate enforcement of it.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 8:38:39 PM   
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I don't think you folks really grasp the concept of a Constitution.

Or want to. But--tough luck. If you're gonna live here, it's under the Constitution.


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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 8:56:54 PM   
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My point was that people will seek out an ideology in which they place their faith in. Empires historically have chosen ideologies and forced them upon their people as a means of control. We really don't see that in modern day religions.

Good point. The Soviets did that. Most empires developed for financial gain I think. And you are right, people are tribal and they succumb to ideologies. We don't see it in modern day religions because the overriding ideology today is nationalism.

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While Islam asserts that there is no compulsion in religion, they do charge a fee to those who are not Muslims to live in their society as a kind of 'protection fee'. They also do not allow their women to marry a non-muslim. These types of devices are not part of other religions, and they are the kinds of things that, over time, would cause more people to adopt islam rather than other religions.


Thank you, tamaka, I learned something here. I will post a link to a Wiki article which is very informative, although it is a bit repetitious. What I took away from it was that Jews were okay with the protection fee because it was cheaper than they had to pay in Christian empires. Christians were not at all happy about the Muslim protection fee. What they got in return besides besides safety, this is my takeaway from the article, they had their own laws and courts and they were free to pursue their professions.

Mixed marriages are still a problem among some Jews and Christians today. My farther-in-law and my wife's uncle were pissed at me until their deaths because I married their little Jewish girl.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 8:57:54 PM   
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Apparently just the parts people like.

I don't think you folks really grasp the concept of a Constitution.

Or want to. But--tough luck. If you're gonna live here, it's under the Constitution.




"The people make the Constitution, and the people can unmake it. It is the creature of their own will and lives only by their will." -John Marshall

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 9:02:01 PM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


Because the 2nd Ammendment is the people's ultimate enforcement of it.


I have said this before and I will say it again: the 2nd Amendment is archaic and the idea that a group of NRA "people" are going to stand up in rebellion to the might of the nation's armed forces is something that gives me a chuckle when I think of it.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/21/2017 9:15:22 PM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


Because the 2nd Ammendment is the people's ultimate enforcement of it.


I have said this before and I will say it again: the 2nd Amendment is archaic and the idea that a group of NRA "people" are going to stand up in rebellion to the might of the nation's armed forces is something that gives me a chuckle when I think of it.


Well actually we probably have the right to far more than a gun if you consider the intent.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 3:06:14 AM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


Because the 2nd Ammendment is the people's ultimate enforcement of it.


I have said this before and I will say it again: the 2nd Amendment is archaic and the idea that a group of NRA "people" are going to stand up in rebellion to the might of the nation's armed forces is something that gives me a chuckle when I think of it.

What, you mean the underground armed cells that Ted Nugent was bragging about didn't rise up to depose the unelected and unconstitutional tyrant Obama?

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 4:21:21 AM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


I didn't post anything suggesting that any part of the constitution is just a suggestion. I posted that it doesn't apply to foreigners, to our enemies

It's not a suicide pact


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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 4:26:28 AM   
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I have said this before and I will say it again: the 2nd Amendment is archaic and the idea that a group of NRA "people" are going to stand up in rebellion to the might of the nation's armed forces is something that gives me a chuckle when I think of it.


To bad you didn't tell that to your Bernie bra shoot 'em up friend before those black cops shot him to death

Do you laugh when you think of him

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 4:48:14 AM   
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Apparently just the parts people like.

I don't think you folks really grasp the concept of a Constitution.

Or want to. But--tough luck. If you're gonna live here, it's under the Constitution.




"The people make the Constitution, and the people can unmake it. It is the creature of their own will and lives only by their will." -John Marshall


There's a process for Amendment. Knock yourself out.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 7:29:42 AM   
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Apparently just the parts people like.

I don't think you folks really grasp the concept of a Constitution.

Or want to. But--tough luck. If you're gonna live here, it's under the Constitution.




"The people make the Constitution, and the people can unmake it. It is the creature of their own will and lives only by their will." -John Marshall


There's a process for Amendment. Knock yourself out.



thats complete and utter horseshit.

the constitution does not grant so much as one right to the people, your world as usual is upside down, and you dont even understand contract law 101.

What surprises the shit otta me is that no one else apparently does either since no one corrected your upsidedown garbage.

The constitution grants exactly ZERO rights to the people, and the only ones with an obligation to live UNDER the constitution is the gubmint, NOT the people.

Feel free to object and good luck with that.



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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 7:35:50 AM   
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I have said this before and I will say it again: the 2nd Amendment is archaic and the idea that a group of NRA "people" are going to stand up in rebellion to the might of the nation's armed forces is something that gives me a chuckle when I think of it.


To bad you didn't tell that to your Bernie bra shoot 'em up friend before those black cops shot him to death

Do you laugh when you think of him

My point is proven then, innit? A citizen with a gun is no match for the military might of the Nation no matter what your "stone cold dead hand" NRA militia lovers say. Just another lonely loser that coulda used a hug. Give em some hugs, Bosco. You have the power to stop the madness.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 7:40:54 AM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


I didn't post anything suggesting that any part of the constitution is just a suggestion. I posted that it doesn't apply to foreigners, to our enemies

It's not a suicide pact


Oh Lord, please help the ignorant. The Constitution applies to any "persons" within American jurisdictions. We should be charging you a student fee.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 7:54:47 AM   
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The entire purpose of Constitutions is to follow them when it's not convenient.

People insist the 2nd Amendment is sacrosanct, no matter what.

Why is the rest of the Constitution just a suggestion?


I didn't post anything suggesting that any part of the constitution is just a suggestion. I posted that it doesn't apply to foreigners, to our enemies

It's not a suicide pact


Oh Lord, please help the ignorant. The Constitution applies to any "persons" within American jurisdictions. We should be charging you a student fee.


No, you are a moron.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 7:56:44 AM   
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I have said this before and I will say it again: the 2nd Amendment is archaic and the idea that a group of NRA "people" are going to stand up in rebellion to the might of the nation's armed forces is something that gives me a chuckle when I think of it.


To bad you didn't tell that to your Bernie bra shoot 'em up friend before those black cops shot him to death

Do you laugh when you think of him

My point is proven then, innit? A citizen with a gun is no match for the military might of the Nation no matter what your "stone cold dead hand" NRA militia lovers say. Just another lonely loser that coulda used a hug. Give em some hugs, Bosco. You have the power to stop the madness.


No, moron - an alt left radical shot up significant members of the political class

Imagine if the guy had half a mind. If he were a conservative, or someone smart like that

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 8:19:24 AM   
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So much for democracy.

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 8:22:43 AM   
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The political class?

So much for democracy.


That's what the "Democrats" said, as they began working to undermine and overthrow the Trump presidency

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RE: What makes a terrorist? - 6/22/2017 8:25:16 AM   
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Democrats are damping talk of impeachment -- they don't want Pence, an arch-conservative. Trump fucking up is safer.

The GOP worked to block Obama from day one. You're such a ridiculous partisan hack.

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