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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Muslims slaughtering other Muslims because they're "not Muslim enough" goes back a long way

It seems to be a source of pride for Muslim apologists, too. "Look how peaceful they are, they're only slaughtering one another over here"

Call it whatever you want, but they slaughter because the Koran tells them to slaughter.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: ladiesmanservant

The so called Islamic State Caliphate even blows up Mosques and so prove their Religion is not Islam but something sinister other.

http://mgafrica.com/article/2015-06-08-back-to-basics-what-isis-al-shabaab-and-boko-haram-have-in-common

I'm glad that we can agree that IS, Al Quada and the like are "not Islam but something sinister other". This is something that many of us have been trying (and failing) to impress upon Bosco, something that Bosco refuses to accept. He still argues that killing infidels is a religious obligation imposed on Muslims by the Koran, and on this flawed foundation, vents his anti-Islam vitriol.

It's patently clear that IS and AQ do not represent Islam but a perverse sinister corruption of Islam. That is why these thugs manage to kill so many Muslims that Muslims are far and away the biggest single class of their victims. That is why the anti-IS coalition in Syria is largely (almost exclusively) comprised of Muslims and why most of the region's Muslim States are members of that coalition engaged in fighting IS on the ground.

To any sane person all this would be enough to convince them that IS and AQ are not Islamic. But it seems Bosco and those who think(?) like him are (bizarrely) holding out for a higher level of proof. We all know that this is a waste of time - there isn't a higher level of proof sufficient to persuade Bosco of the error of his ways, nothing will ever persuade these bigots to change their minds. Their bigotry is not only fact-free and fact-resistant, it's effectively fact-proofed.

It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that Bosco et al real purpose here is not to oppose jihadi terrorists such as IS but to vent their own inchoate, dark fears and neuroses.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Why you equating "not wanting to imprison or kill without a valid reason" with "love"?
There's quite a gap between those two attitudes in practice.

To me, the opposite of hate is love.
So if I hate Muslims. Then she must love KKK.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


From Wikipedia:

Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations

Date Added Name Region Location of Operations Notes
October 8, 1997 Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) Middle East Palestinian Territories 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) Asia Philippines 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Aum Shinrikyo Asia Japan 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (Basque Fatherland and Liberty) (ETA) Europe Spain, France 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Gama’a al-Islamiyya Africa, Middle East Egypt 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement) Middle East Palestinian Territories 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM) Asia Pakistan 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Hezbollah (Party of God) Middle East Lebanon 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Kahane Chai Middle East Israel 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Kongra-Gel (formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party) (KGK) Middle East Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria Formerly PKK, KADEK. 62 FR 52650.
October 8, 1997 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) Asia Sri Lanka 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 National Liberation Army (ELN) South America Colombia 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) Middle East Palestinian Territories 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Islamic Jihad Group Middle East Palestinian Territories 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) Middle East Palestinian Territories 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC) Middle East Palestinian Territories 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) South America Colombia 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C) Europe Turkey 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1997 Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL) South America Peru 62 FR 52650
October 8, 1999 al-Qa’ida Worldwide Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia 64 FR 55112
September 25, 2000 Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) Asia Uzbekistan, Afghanistan
May 16, 2001 Real Irish Republican Army (RIRA) Europe Ireland, United Kingdom Associated with 32 County Sovereignty Movement (32CSM)
December 26, 2001 Jaish-e-Mohammed (Army of Mohammed) (JEM) Asia Pakistan
December 26, 2001 Lashkar-e Tayyiba (Army of the Righteous) (LET) Asia Pakistan
March 27, 2002 Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades Middle East Palestinian Territories
March 27, 2002 Asbat an-Ansar Middle East Lebanon
March 27, 2002 al-Qa’ida in the Islamic Maghreb Africa, Middle East Algeria, Mali, Niger (formerly GSPC)
August 9, 2002 Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA) Asia Philippines
October 23, 2002 Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI) Asia Indonesia Also in Brunei, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore
January 30, 2003 Lashkar i Jhangvi Asia Pakistan
March 22, 2004 Al-Qaeda Kurdish Battalions Middle East Iraq Formerly Ansar al-Islam
July 13, 2004 Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA) Europe Ireland, United Kingdom
December 17, 2004 Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (formerly Al-Qaeda in Iraq aka Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR)) Worldwide Iraq Syria Libya Nigeria Formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network. Al-Nusra Front is considered an alias of Al-Qaeda in Iraq[8]
June 17, 2005 Islamic Jihad Union (IJU) Asia Uzbekistan
March 5, 2008 Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami (HUJI-B) Asia Bangladesh
March 18, 2008 Al-Shabaab Africa Somalia, Yemen
May 18, 2009 Revolutionary Struggle Europe Greece
July 2, 2009 Kata'ib Hezbollah Middle East Iraq
January 19, 2010 al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) Middle East Saudi Arabia
August 6, 2010 Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami (HUJI) Asia Bangladesh
September 1, 2010 Tehrik-i-Taliban (TTP) Asia Pakistan
November 4, 2010 Jundallah (People's Resistance Movement of Iran, or PRMI) (Iran)[9] Asia Iran
May 23, 2011 Army of Islam (Palestinian)[10] Middle East Palestinian Territories
September 19, 2011 Indian Mujahideen (IM) (India)[11] Asia India
September 19, 2011 Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid (JAT) Asia Indonesia
May 30, 2012 Abdullah Azzam Brigades Middle East Iraq
September 19, 2012 Haqqani network[12] Asia Afghanistan
March 22, 2013 Ansar Dine[13] Africa Mali
November 14, 2013 Boko Haram[14] Africa Nigeria
November 14, 2013 Ansaru[15] Africa Nigeria
December 19, 2013 al-Mulathamun Brigade[15] Africa Algeria
January 13, 2014 Ansar al-Shari'a in Benghazi[15] Africa Libya
January 13, 2014 Ansar al-Shari'a in Darnah[15] Africa Libya
January 13, 2014 Ansar al-Shari'a in Tunisia[15] Africa Tunisia
April 10, 2014 Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis[16] Africa, Middle East Egypt Also known as ISIL Sinai Province, ISIL SP [17]
May 15, 2014 Al-Nusra Front Middle East Syria
August 20, 2014 Mujahideen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem Africa, Middle East Egypt
September 30, 2015 Jaysh Rijal al-Tariq al Naqshabandi (JRTN) Middle East Iraq
January 14, 2016 ISIL Khorasan Asia Afghanistan
May 19, 2016 ISIL Libya Africa Libya
June 30, 2016 Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent Asia India

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: ladiesmanservant

The so called Islamic State Caliphate even blows up Mosques and so prove their Religion is not Islam but something sinister other.

http://mgafrica.com/article/2015-06-08-back-to-basics-what-isis-al-shabaab-and-boko-haram-have-in-common

I'm glad that we can agree that IS, Al Quada and the like are "not Islam but something sinister other". This is something that many of us have been trying (and failing) to impress upon Bosco, something that Bosco refuses to accept. He still argues that killing infidels is a religious obligation imposed on Muslims by the Koran, and on this flawed foundation, vents his anti-Islam vitriol.

It's patently clear that IS and AQ do not represent Islam but a perverse sinister corruption of Islam. That is why these thugs manage to kill so many Muslims that Muslims are far and away the biggest single class of their victims. That is why the anti-IS coalition in Syria is largely (almost exclusively) comprised of Muslims and why most of the region's Muslim States are members of that coalition engaged in fighting IS on the ground.

To any sane person all this would be enough to convince them that IS and AQ are not Islamic. But it seems Bosco and those who think(?) like him are (bizarrely) holding out for a higher level of proof. We all know that this is a waste of time - there isn't a higher level of proof sufficient to persuade Bosco of the error of his ways, nothing will ever persuade these bigots to change their minds. Their bigotry is not only fact-free and fact-resistant, it's effectively fact-proofed.

It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that Bosco et al real purpose here is not to oppose jihadi terrorists such as IS but to vent their own inchoate, dark fears and neuroses.

Oh wait missy. You forgot to include Hezbollah and the Moslim Brotherhood in there with IS and AQ. Well actually, the Palestinian Authority which pays the families of martyrs probably should be included. Who else are you forgetting. The list is pretty long.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: ladiesmanservant

The so called Islamic State Caliphate even blows up Mosques and so prove their Religion is not Islam but something sinister other.

http://mgafrica.com/article/2015-06-08-back-to-basics-what-isis-al-shabaab-and-boko-haram-have-in-common

I'm glad that we can agree that IS, Al Quada and the like are "not Islam but something sinister other". This is something that many of us have been trying (and failing) to impress upon Bosco, something that Bosco refuses to accept. He still argues that killing infidels is a religious obligation imposed on Muslims by the Koran, and on this flawed foundation, vents his anti-Islam vitriol.

It's patently clear that IS and AQ do not represent Islam but a perverse sinister corruption of Islam. That is why these thugs manage to kill so many Muslims that Muslims are far and away the biggest single class of their victims. That is why the anti-IS coalition in Syria is largely (almost exclusively) comprised of Muslims and why most of the region's Muslim States are members of that coalition engaged in fighting IS on the ground.

To any sane person all this would be enough to convince them that IS and AQ are not Islamic. But it seems Bosco and those who think(?) like him are (bizarrely) holding out for a higher level of proof. We all know that this is a waste of time - there isn't a higher level of proof sufficient to persuade Bosco of the error of his ways, nothing will ever persuade these bigots to change their minds. Their bigotry is not only fact-free and fact-resistant, it's effectively fact-proofed.

It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that Bosco et al real purpose here is not to oppose jihadi terrorists such as IS but to vent their own inchoate, dark fears and neuroses.

Oh wait missy. You forgot to include Hezbollah and the Moslim Brotherhood in there with IS and AQ. Well actually, the Palestinian Authority which pays the families of martyrs probably should be included. Who else are you forgetting. The list is pretty long.

Is that idiotic response the best you can do? If it is then back to kindergarten for you .... not to worry though, you will be able to make lots of friends with your peers, all of whom are as accomplished as you at acting like a spoilt brat whenever anyone demolishes your inane ideas about politics. Should be lots of fun for all ...

I note you are either unable or unwilling to say about the substance of my post. Your reluctance/inability to address the substantive points adds weight to my observation that "Their bigotry is not only fact-free and fact-resistant, it's effectively fact-proofed" So thanks for that sweetie.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: ladiesmanservant

The so called Islamic State Caliphate even blows up Mosques and so prove their Religion is not Islam but something sinister other.

http://mgafrica.com/article/2015-06-08-back-to-basics-what-isis-al-shabaab-and-boko-haram-have-in-common

I'm glad that we can agree that IS, Al Quada and the like are "not Islam but something sinister other". This is something that many of us have been trying (and failing) to impress upon Bosco, something that Bosco refuses to accept. He still argues that killing infidels is a religious obligation imposed on Muslims by the Koran, and on this flawed foundation, vents his anti-Islam vitriol.

It's patently clear that IS and AQ do not represent Islam but a perverse sinister corruption of Islam. That is why these thugs manage to kill so many Muslims that Muslims are far and away the biggest single class of their victims. That is why the anti-IS coalition in Syria is largely (almost exclusively) comprised of Muslims and why most of the region's Muslim States are members of that coalition engaged in fighting IS on the ground.

To any sane person all this would be enough to convince them that IS and AQ are not Islamic. But it seems Bosco and those who think(?) like him are (bizarrely) holding out for a higher level of proof. We all know that this is a waste of time - there isn't a higher level of proof sufficient to persuade Bosco of the error of his ways, nothing will ever persuade these bigots to change their minds. Their bigotry is not only fact-free and fact-resistant, it's effectively fact-proofed.

It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that Bosco et al real purpose here is not to oppose jihadi terrorists such as IS but to vent their own inchoate, dark fears and neuroses.

Oh wait missy. You forgot to include Hezbollah and the Moslim Brotherhood in there with IS and AQ. Well actually, the Palestinian Authority which pays the families of martyrs probably should be included. Who else are you forgetting. The list is pretty long.

Is that idiotic response the best you can do? If it is then back to kindergarten for you .... not to worry though, you will be able to make lots of friends with your peers, all of whom are as accomplished as you at acting like a spoilt brat whenever anyone demolishes your inane ideas about politics. Should be lots of fun for all ...

I note you are either unable or unwilling to say about the substance of my post. Your reluctance/inability to address the substantive points adds weight to my observation that "Their bigotry is not only fact-free and fact-resistant, it's effectively fact-proofed" So thanks for that sweetie.

Lol, nothing adds weight to your observation because it has no weight and it's not an observation. It's a little leftie sip of kool aid that you believe is thought. Poor thing, you're going to have a very frustrating life.