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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Who could shoot someones wee toe off again ? From 3 miles away running like the flying scotsman and blindfolded?

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

https://www.yahoo.com/news/record-breaking-canadian-sniper-kills-074923736.html

Jeff, were you that good?

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

FR

If this shot can be verified it's one hell of a shot, not one 99.9% of riflemen could make.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It was a remarkable shot, no denying it.

It must be noted however, the rifle in question is a fifty caliber rifle, effective range of five miles, it was after all, initially developed for anti aircraft use.

It is also current practice for sniper teams using this type of weapon to utilize a really neat hand held ballistic computer to help calculate the variables, at those ranges, the math gets very complex.

Now, the really interesting part of this little news item.

According to the Geneva Convention, the fifty caliber round is considered inhumane.

The M2 and the various weapons of similar calibers, are supposed to be relegated to use against vehicles and hardened structures, i.e non human targets.

However, to quote the instructor I had on the Barret fifty, "the weapon can be used against buttons, belt buckles, canteens, or any solid target downrange. If an individual has made the stupid decision to have those items on his person, its his own fault if he gets hurt."

Given that this was a 'sanctioned' operation, the it is an official military record and will stand as such.

However, unofficial claims of longer shots with unofficial proof have circulated through black ops units since the introduction of the fifty sniper rifles. Unofficial claims of US, British AND Canadian shooters of hitting targets at three miles or more have made the round for years, but since any such shot by any such team has never officially been made by any friendly government, they are considered shooters tall tails.

Unofficially, a joint team operating in Afghanistan prior to the official beginning of actual operations, consisting of US Seals, British SAS, and Canadians (probably just along to insure that proper manners were used) with one of the team making a kill shot at 3.7 miles. The target in question was wanted by all three governments, however, the targets condition was subject to the whims of the team that went to retrieve him.

Since no government will confirm or deny the existence of such an operation with a kill order attached, I mean officially seal team six was to bring bin Laden out alive to stand trial, the truth of such myths will never be known.

However, using the now out dated Barret bolt action fifty, I have hit static targets on the range at nearly three miles. I personally know a marine that has used the Barret to hit static targets at just over four miles.

And there is the story of a marine gunny who shot an NVA soldier across the DMZ during the Vietnam conflict using a Ma Deuce.


It must be noted that when shooting on the range, one can choose the conditions, so most variables are negligible.

Finally, the 50 is not the largest rifle ever used for sniping.

During the Soviet Lithuania war, Lithuanian soldiers used 20mm anti tank rifles as sniper rifles, essentially to scare the shit of the soviets.
The Lithuanian troops justification was"
"The soviet soldier thinks he is as invincible as their tanks, so using an anti tank rifle is justified."

Which goes to show it is not a good thing to piss off a Lithuanian.

Still a remarkable shot in very adverse conditions, the Canadian is to be praised.

I suspect, however, his private stash of Canadian whiskey was destroyed by some ISIS activity and he was getting justified revenge. I mean lets face it, it takes a lot to piss off a Canuck, otherwise, he would have politely informed his intended target of his soon to be arriving death.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It was a remarkable shot, no denying it.

It must be noted however, the rifle in question is a fifty caliber rifle, effective range of five miles, it was after all, initially developed for anti aircraft use.

It is also current practice for sniper teams using this type of weapon to utilize a really neat hand held ballistic computer to help calculate the variables, at those ranges, the math gets very complex.

Now, the really interesting part of this little news item.

According to the Geneva Convention, the fifty caliber round is considered inhumane.

The M2 and the various weapons of similar calibers, are supposed to be relegated to use against vehicles and hardened structures, i.e non human targets.

However, to quote the instructor I had on the Barret fifty, "the weapon can be used against buttons, belt buckles, canteens, or any solid target downrange. If an individual has made the stupid decision to have those items on his person, its his own fault if he gets hurt."

Given that this was a 'sanctioned' operation, the it is an official military record and will stand as such.

However, unofficial claims of longer shots with unofficial proof have circulated through black ops units since the introduction of the fifty sniper rifles. Unofficial claims of US, British AND Canadian shooters of hitting targets at three miles or more have made the round for years, but since any such shot by any such team has never officially been made by any friendly government, they are considered shooters tall tails.

Unofficially, a joint team operating in Afghanistan prior to the official beginning of actual operations, consisting of US Seals, British SAS, and Canadians (probably just along to insure that proper manners were used) with one of the team making a kill shot at 3.7 miles. The target in question was wanted by all three governments, however, the targets condition was subject to the whims of the team that went to retrieve him.

Since no government will confirm or deny the existence of such an operation with a kill order attached, I mean officially seal team six was to bring bin Laden out alive to stand trial, the truth of such myths will never be known.

However, using the now out dated Barret bolt action fifty, I have hit static targets on the range at nearly three miles. I personally know a marine that has used the Barret to hit static targets at just over four miles.

And there is the story of a marine gunny who shot an NVA soldier across the DMZ during the Vietnam conflict using a Ma Deuce.


It must be noted that when shooting on the range, one can choose the conditions, so most variables are negligible.

Finally, the 50 is not the largest rifle ever used for sniping.

During the Soviet Lithuania war, Lithuanian soldiers used 20mm anti tank rifles as sniper rifles, essentially to scare the shit of the soviets.
The Lithuanian troops justification was"
"The soviet soldier thinks he is as invincible as their tanks, so using an anti tank rifle is justified."

Which goes to show it is not a good thing to piss off a Lithuanian.

Still a remarkable shot in very adverse conditions, the Canadian is to be praised.

I suspect, however, his private stash of Canadian whiskey was destroyed by some ISIS activity and he was getting justified revenge. I mean lets face it, it takes a lot to piss off a Canuck, otherwise, he would have politely informed his intended target of his soon to be arriving death.

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It was a remarkable shot, no denying it.

It must be noted however, the rifle in question is a fifty caliber rifle, effective range of five miles, it was after all, initially developed for anti aircraft use.

It is also current practice for sniper teams using this type of weapon to utilize a really neat hand held ballistic computer to help calculate the variables, at those ranges, the math gets very complex.

Now, the really interesting part of this little news item.

According to the Geneva Convention, the fifty caliber round is considered inhumane.

The M2 and the various weapons of similar calibers, are supposed to be relegated to use against vehicles and hardened structures, i.e non human targets.

However, to quote the instructor I had on the Barret fifty, "the weapon can be used against buttons, belt buckles, canteens, or any solid target downrange. If an individual has made the stupid decision to have those items on his person, its his own fault if he gets hurt."

Given that this was a 'sanctioned' operation, the it is an official military record and will stand as such.

However, unofficial claims of longer shots with unofficial proof have circulated through black ops units since the introduction of the fifty sniper rifles. Unofficial claims of US, British AND Canadian shooters of hitting targets at three miles or more have made the round for years, but since any such shot by any such team has never officially been made by any friendly government, they are considered shooters tall tails.

Unofficially, a joint team operating in Afghanistan prior to the official beginning of actual operations, consisting of US Seals, British SAS, and Canadians (probably just along to insure that proper manners were used) with one of the team making a kill shot at 3.7 miles. The target in question was wanted by all three governments, however, the targets condition was subject to the whims of the team that went to retrieve him.

Since no government will confirm or deny the existence of such an operation with a kill order attached, I mean officially seal team six was to bring bin Laden out alive to stand trial, the truth of such myths will never be known.

However, using the now out dated Barret bolt action fifty, I have hit static targets on the range at nearly three miles. I personally know a marine that has used the Barret to hit static targets at just over four miles.

And there is the story of a marine gunny who shot an NVA soldier across the DMZ during the Vietnam conflict using a Ma Deuce.


It must be noted that when shooting on the range, one can choose the conditions, so most variables are negligible.

Finally, the 50 is not the largest rifle ever used for sniping.

During the Soviet Lithuania war, Lithuanian soldiers used 20mm anti tank rifles as sniper rifles, essentially to scare the shit of the soviets.
The Lithuanian troops justification was"
"The soviet soldier thinks he is as invincible as their tanks, so using an anti tank rifle is justified."

Which goes to show it is not a good thing to piss off a Lithuanian.

Still a remarkable shot in very adverse conditions, the Canadian is to be praised.

I suspect, however, his private stash of Canadian whiskey was destroyed by some ISIS activity and he was getting justified revenge. I mean lets face it, it takes a lot to piss off a Canuck, otherwise, he would have politely informed his intended target of his soon to be arriving death.