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BoscoX -> Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/26/2017 5:32:42 PM)


Flynn intervened on behalf of a female agent who faced discrimination from corrupt top brass. For this they (possibly) went after him politically

Doubt a single feminist will jump in here though, they aren't really about womens rights at all.

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Hillwilliam -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/26/2017 5:39:37 PM)

The bureau employees, who spoke only on condition of anonymity for...


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BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/26/2017 5:44:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The bureau employees, who spoke only on condition of anonymity for...


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Many of the facts of the story are verified. For example:

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The FBI sought to block Flynn’s support for the agent, asking a federal administrative law judge in May 2014 to keep Flynn and others from becoming a witness in her Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) case, memos obtained by Circa show. Two years later, the FBI opened its inquiry of Flynn.


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The EEOC case, which is still pending, was serious enough to require McCabe to submit to a sworn statement to investigators, the documents show.

The deputy director’s testimony provided some of the strongest evidence in the case of possible retaliation, because he admitted the FBI opened an internal investigation into Gritz’s personal conduct after learning the agent “had filed or intended to file” a sex discrimination complaint against her supervisors.


But being a leftist, we understand that you prefer trollishness, ignorance, and your cartoonish delusions to hard facts and reality so, it's okay




Hillwilliam -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/26/2017 5:52:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The bureau employees, who spoke only on condition of anonymity for...


[sm=happy-smiley58.gif]


Many of the facts of the story are verified. For example:

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The FBI sought to block Flynn’s support for the agent, asking a federal administrative law judge in May 2014 to keep Flynn and others from becoming a witness in her Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) case, memos obtained by Circa show. Two years later, the FBI opened its inquiry of Flynn.


And:

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The EEOC case, which is still pending, was serious enough to require McCabe to submit to a sworn statement to investigators, the documents show.

The deputy director’s testimony provided some of the strongest evidence in the case of possible retaliation, because he admitted the FBI opened an internal investigation into Gritz’s personal conduct after learning the agent “had filed or intended to file” a sex discrimination complaint against her supervisors.


But being a leftist, we understand that you prefer trollishness, ignorance, and your cartoonish delusions to hard facts and reality so, it's okay

Keep going Comrade lefty.
Keep using your anonymous sources and making excuses why people shouldn't have to pay their own way and people who commit crimes in foreign countries should get a free pass.

You keep calling others leftists but your posting history shows you to be as big a leftie as Thompson

But you aren't nearly as accomplished a troll. maybe you should visit him in the Cali Desert to take trolling lessons. It isn't that far from you is it?[sm=happy-smiley58.gif]




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:14:08 AM)


More on-the-record facts, from a named source (same article)

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FBI officials declined to answer any questions from Circa, including whether McCabe ever considered recusing himself or has recused himself from the Flynn aspects of the Russia probe. McCabe declined comment via the FBI press office.

But one of the FBI’s most famous whistleblowers says McCabe has an ethical obligation to recuse himself in the Flynn probe to avoid the appearance of retribution or bias.

“I don't think they have any choice. He has to step aside,” said Frederic Whitehurst, who as an FBI special agent and forensic chemist blew the whistle on misdeeds inside the FBI crime lab two decades ago and prompted widespread reforms.

“If he stays involved, the case against Flynn has no credibility,” explained Whitehurst, now often called as an expert witness in court cases. “If there are criminal charges that could go against Flynn, that's got to go to court. And those agents at some point may be called before a grand jury and anything he (McCabe) said to them about Flynn could be used as exonerating information or evidence of misconduct.”

Whitehurst said he saw senior FBI officials, including then-Director Louis Freeh and then-General Counsel Howard Shapiro, recuse themselves in the 1990s from his whistleblowing case to avoid looking they were involved in retribution after he made allegations of wrongdoing by the bureau

“Louie and Howie did it, and that sets the precedent I think,” Whitehurst said.


That's old fashioned journalism.

Very rare these days




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:30:35 AM)

Flynn is in enough trouble all by himself.




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:33:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Flynn is in enough trouble all by himself.


He is in no trouble at all, broke no laws.

"Put down the Washington Post and step slowly back away from the propaganda spew"




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:34:44 AM)

Yeah, he did -- we already know that, from his unreported consulting with foreign governments.




BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:56:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yeah, he did -- we already know that, from his unreported consulting with foreign governments.


Keep drinking that Kool-Aid. There is no evidence of anything criminal whatsoever, except from the Obama administration unmaskers and leakers... The criminals who illegally spied on the Trump campaign for Hillary, and the FBI brass who started the Flynn investigation purely for retribution




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:58:37 AM)

Probably why he wants immunity.

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BoscoX -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:59:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Probably why he wants immunity.

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In your cartoonish delusions




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 5:59:56 AM)

You might explain that to Flynn then, since it was he who requested it.




Nnanji -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:21:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You might explain that to Flynn then, since it was he who requested it.

Why don't you comment on the article instead of troll? It's a good place to show your new found non-partician position.

Personally, I'm starting to see some things click into place, like a lot of anonymous leaks and unmasking. Also, keep in mind the fiasco with the FBI crime labs mentioned in the article. Apparently the FBI has a good ol boy culture that's willing to damage others to protect itself.




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:26:13 AM)

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."





heavyblinker -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:32:27 AM)

Retribution for a totally inconsequential, unheard-of event in 2015 that had no long-lasting effects on anyone involved?

I'm sure the RWNJs are happy to have anything that will make them think that the Russia investigation is either fake or a massive conspiracy, but this is really desperate.
And there's probably also a good reason I've never heard of circa.com before today, right?




Nnanji -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:32:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."



No, Flynn offered public testimony for immunity. Which could mean several things. Like for instance testifying against the FBI and having assurance that they couldn't retaliate against him. There's obviously a few different ways to look at it and I'm sure when Loretta Lynch is on the hot seat you'll think of a couple.




Nnanji -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:35:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Retribution for a totally inconsequential, unheard-of event in 2015 that had no long-lasting effects on anyone involved?

I'm sure the RWNJs are happy to have anything that will make them think that the Russia investigation is either fake or a massive conspiracy, but this is really desperate.
And there's probably also a good reason I've never heard of circa.com before today, right?

That's one of the most idiotic things I've seen you write and it could only be patrician spew. Better check with your mom, she'll probably tell you that the woman's discrimination case wasn't inconsequential and to be a good boy.




Musicmystery -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:40:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."



No, Flynn offered public testimony for immunity. Which could mean several things. Like for instance testifying against the FBI and having assurance that they couldn't retaliate against him. There's obviously a few different ways to look at it and I'm sure when Loretta Lynch is on the hot seat you'll think of a couple.

You're assuming quite a bit. And you've said nothing that disagrees with my point -- you just added the possible reason for requesting that immunity.

I've said in many places I'm for investigating the lot of them, sort it out, move past it.

But in a Congress desperate to look like it's doing something, we're going to get a lot of theater.




Nnanji -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:44:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, I did. It's well-reported that Flynn requested immunity.

I'm sorry you find sharing facts "trolling," but if that's the case, you're going to see a LOT of "trolling."



No, Flynn offered public testimony for immunity. Which could mean several things. Like for instance testifying against the FBI and having assurance that they couldn't retaliate against him. There's obviously a few different ways to look at it and I'm sure when Loretta Lynch is on the hot seat you'll think of a couple.

You're assuming quite a bit. And you've said nothing that disagrees with my point -- you just added the possible reason for requesting that immunity.

I've said in many places I'm for investigating the lot of them, sort it out, move past it.

But in a Congress desperate to look like it's doing something, we're going to get a lot of theater.

I'm not assuming anything, I'm keeping an open mind. And yes, I'm pointing out that if you were being intellectually honest you'd admit the other points I've made because from what you've written I'm sure you see them.

I've left it up to you to be intellectually honest.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Flynn Investigation Was FBI Retribution? (6/27/2017 7:46:32 AM)

I really cant keep up with them all who was flynn again?
Tis okay I refreshed my senile mind the Russian NSA dude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Flynn#Dismissal_and_investigation

I seem to remember writing some time ago Flynn wanted immunity - why not give him it as there are bigger Gold Fish to fry




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