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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 9:42:26 AM   
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whats you take on all this anyway? Their second amendment is open to interpretation isnt it, over looking the fact he may well have been mentally ill and failed by society - did he legally have a permit for the gun?

Termy I am reading too many stories of late where white cops shoot niggers - case dismissed. Whom do you believe has the best lawyers - is pretty much how the system works anyway - the Police federation or some pauper nigger?


Wicked, I don't know if you're being facetious or if you are prejudiced. You use the "nigger" word quite often.
It makes me cringe every time.

If the shooter was schizophrenic and off his medication, it doesn't necessarily mean society failed him. In most cases, an individual has the choice to take medication or not. I can't open links, so I have only have what has been posted here to go by.. I reserve the right to change my mind, POV as more information becomes available.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 9:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is, and will always be about the value of a life. Niggers seem to be of lesser worth in America. Perhaps read all of my words :)

As for the medication bit In most cases, an individual has the choice to take medication or not. They most certainly do not - now you saying that I do find particularly offensive ;)



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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 9:56:15 AM   
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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:03:43 AM   
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It is, and always be about the value of a life. Niggers seem to be of lesser worth in America. Perhaps read all of my words :)

As for the medication bit In most cases, an individual has the choice to take medication or not. They most certainly do not - now you saying that I do find particularly offensive ;)



I saw, after I posted, your comments about black/ colored etc. That and your comment about America confirms what I figured was the reason for using that particular word.

I'm sure now, the shooter will be legally required to take medication.

The legal system is a fickle greedy mess. The poor basically have the right to accept a shitty plea and do time.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:08:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes - that is Trumps model isnt it. And then you have what is admissible in court. Videos of them saying I pumped the darkie full of bullets and danced on his grave are often not admissible, such is the poverty of the American legal system

That aside winsomme ive did about 3 threads in the last week where a white police officer got off with a blatant execution of a black person

Personally I find the term white and black to be both equally offensive to me. And anyway this is one of Boscox twisted threads where he blames the coons or leftists or something

Needless death offends me I am sorry you do not understand my choice of words and the reasons I choose them - and yet you embrace the orange monsters choice as acceptable? What hope can there be?

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:10:26 AM   
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VML, you're being myopic.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/06/politically-fueled-cop-hatred-has-taken-another-innocent-officers-life/


Nnanji, there are two problems with the slander being made of BLM.

1. Perception (aka: rotten lying journalism)

Alexander Bonds’ anti-cop rhetoric echoes the Black Lives Matter-inspired vitriol spewed by previous cop assassins over the last three years. From the NY Post article you cited: "Black Lives Matter inspired vitriol," a conclusion made without one bit of support. Just a flat out lie.

2. Reality

"There's a widespread perception in the American public, and particularly within law enforcement, that officers are more threatened, more endangered, more often assaulted, and more often killed than they have been historically," says Seth Stoughton, a law professor at the University of Southern Carolina and former policeman.

"I think it's a very strong perception. People truly believe it. But factually, looking at the numbers, it's not accurate," he says.

FBI data on police officers "feloniously killed" - killed as a result of a criminal act - indicates that the numbers have been falling, he says.

Looking at the 10 years from 2006 to 2015 the annual average number of police deaths was 49.6, Stoughton says, which he notes is "down significantly from the high. The high was the 10-year period prior to 1980, when we had an average of 115 - actually 114.8 officers feloniously killed… in the line of duty every year.

At the same time the number of police officers has increased in the US. There are a quarter of a million more police officers working today than there were three decades ago.

So when you consider the number of officers killed per 100,000, there has been a dramatic decrease. The annual per capita number of officers killed has dropped from 24 per 100,000 in the 10 years to 1980 to 7.3 per 100,000 in the 10 years to 2013 (the last year for which there is good data). SEE THE GRAPHS AT THIS CITE

Some posters on this Forum tend to delight in misrepresenting reality to suit their warped agenda. You might want to be wary of his repeated "mistakes."

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:15:31 AM   
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Do you know when they stop taking them getting them to start again is just about impossible. Is it their fault?

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:18:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the line of duty: How often are US police killed? I posted that on this very forum but it seems to have gone largely unnoticed.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:22:35 AM   
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Yes - that is Trumps model isnt it. And then you have what is admissible in court. Videos of them saying I pumped the darkie full of bullets and danced on his grave are often not admissible, such is the poverty of the American legal system

That aside winsomme ive did about 3 threads in the last week where a white police officer got off with a blatant execution of a black person

Personally I find the term white and black to be both equally offensive to me. And anyway this is one of Boscox twisted threads where he blames the coons or leftists or something

Needless death offends me I am sorry you do not understand my choice of words and the reasons I choose them - and yet you embrace the orange monsters choice as acceptable? What hope can there be?


First, WTF. I've never embrassed Trumps anything.

I understand your choice of wording now, no worries. Just needed some context.

My grandson was visiting the last 5 days. I haven't been on the boards except very briefly.

My head is foggy, I sprained my hand and I'm out of energy... 3 toddlers in the house wore me out.
I'm of no coherent use, so off to bed with me.

My apologies for the derailment.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 10:52:55 AM   
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"I think it's a very strong perception. People truly believe it. But factually, looking at the numbers, it's not accurate," he says.


He would not say that in my town...and be correct anyway.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 12:57:31 PM   
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Bosco's allegation that "the fake news media" issues "calls for violence' is as fanciful and fact free as his usual nonsense. I am unable to identify a rational connection between this incident and the fake news issue. Perhaps Bosco will be kind enough to outline the connection he sees between the two so that we might have a clue what he's talking about.

Unless Bosco succeeds in advancing a credible connection, it's a case of Bosco cynically using this murder to gain a political 'advantage'. I'm afraid to add that this isn't the first time and there seems little likelihood that it will be the last.



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"Hands up don't shoot" was a big lie, and yes the MSM pushed that lie hard.

Is that your explanation of how the MSM issues "calls to violence" that have a direct consequence in a senseless murder of a NYC cop?

It is utterly incoherent - it waffles on but it explains nothing.

"Hands up don't shoot" is most clearly NOT a "call to violence" - quite the opposite in fact. You provide no link to support your claim that it was a "big lie" and/or the MSM "pushed hard on that". And you decline to even mention the NYC murder, so there's no attempt to provide a linkage between any of the above (no matter how dubious it is) and the cop's murder, which you may recall was the allegation you made in the OP.

So you have made a wild unsubstantiated allegation that muddies people you regard as political enemies. A charge so baseless that you are unable to string together two sensible words in its defence. So another case of Bosco callously exploiting a senseless murder to make political capital ....

Hands up don't shoot was based on the lie that Brown was tring to surrender when he was shot. The message behind it was that even when you do what you are supposed to and follow orders you will be guned down by the police. That leaves? Violence. Remember the slogan was the excuse for burning large parts of Ferguson, and it was used not by the people tring to stop the violence, but by the looters.
Taken out of context it sounds like a call for non-violence, in context it is a battle cry for the anti cop factions.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:00:40 PM   
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In the line of duty: How often are US police killed? I posted that on this very forum but it seems to have gone largely unnoticed.

Seriously, some have off duty accidents.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:06:01 PM   
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< Message edited by WickedsDesire -- 7/6/2017 1:08:48 PM >

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:06:54 PM   
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"I think it's a very strong perception. People truly believe it. But factually, looking at the numbers, it's not accurate," he says.


He would not say that in my town...and be correct anyway.

Butch

In the past 17 years St Louis has lost 2 police officers killed in the line of duty. Ten since 1975. Seriously? What is so special about your town?

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:12:54 PM   
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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:14:03 PM   
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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:14:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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tweakabelle
Bosco's allegation that "the fake news media" issues "calls for violence' is as fanciful and fact free as his usual nonsense. I am unable to identify a rational connection between this incident and the fake news issue. Perhaps Bosco will be kind enough to outline the connection he sees between the two so that we might have a clue what he's talking about.

Unless Bosco succeeds in advancing a credible connection, it's a case of Bosco cynically using this murder to gain a political 'advantage'. I'm afraid to add that this isn't the first time and there seems little likelihood that it will be the last.



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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


"Hands up don't shoot" was a big lie, and yes the MSM pushed that lie hard.

Is that your explanation of how the MSM issues "calls to violence" that have a direct consequence in a senseless murder of a NYC cop?

It is utterly incoherent - it waffles on but it explains nothing.

"Hands up don't shoot" is most clearly NOT a "call to violence" - quite the opposite in fact. You provide no link to support your claim that it was a "big lie" and/or the MSM "pushed hard on that". And you decline to even mention the NYC murder, so there's no attempt to provide a linkage between any of the above (no matter how dubious it is) and the cop's murder, which you may recall was the allegation you made in the OP.

So you have made a wild unsubstantiated allegation that muddies people you regard as political enemies. A charge so baseless that you are unable to string together two sensible words in its defence. So another case of Bosco callously exploiting a senseless murder to make political capital ....

Hands up don't shoot was based on the lie that Brown was tring to surrender when he was shot. The message behind it was that even when you do what you are supposed to and follow orders you will be guned down by the police. That leaves? Violence. Remember the slogan was the excuse for burning large parts of Ferguson, and it was used not by the people tring to stop the violence, but by the looters.
Taken out of context it sounds like a call for non-violence, in context it is a battle cry for the anti cop factions.

Horseshit. Taken anyway you wish your consistent negative response to black complaints is a racist message. Unarmed people have been gunned down even when following orders. Very often the officers involved panicked and have been shown to be unfit for duty. Only an unreasonable SCOTUS ruling gives them the license to kill and allows them to get away with such reckless behavior.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 1:21:15 PM   
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His mind is simple on a better day - there is no level of depravity he will not plunge too.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 2:01:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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tweakabelle
Bosco's allegation that "the fake news media" issues "calls for violence' is as fanciful and fact free as his usual nonsense. I am unable to identify a rational connection between this incident and the fake news issue. Perhaps Bosco will be kind enough to outline the connection he sees between the two so that we might have a clue what he's talking about.

Unless Bosco succeeds in advancing a credible connection, it's a case of Bosco cynically using this murder to gain a political 'advantage'. I'm afraid to add that this isn't the first time and there seems little likelihood that it will be the last.



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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


"Hands up don't shoot" was a big lie, and yes the MSM pushed that lie hard.

Is that your explanation of how the MSM issues "calls to violence" that have a direct consequence in a senseless murder of a NYC cop?

It is utterly incoherent - it waffles on but it explains nothing.

"Hands up don't shoot" is most clearly NOT a "call to violence" - quite the opposite in fact. You provide no link to support your claim that it was a "big lie" and/or the MSM "pushed hard on that". And you decline to even mention the NYC murder, so there's no attempt to provide a linkage between any of the above (no matter how dubious it is) and the cop's murder, which you may recall was the allegation you made in the OP.

So you have made a wild unsubstantiated allegation that muddies people you regard as political enemies. A charge so baseless that you are unable to string together two sensible words in its defence. So another case of Bosco callously exploiting a senseless murder to make political capital ....

Hands up don't shoot was based on the lie that Brown was tring to surrender when he was shot. The message behind it was that even when you do what you are supposed to and follow orders you will be guned down by the police. That leaves? Violence. Remember the slogan was the excuse for burning large parts of Ferguson, and it was used not by the people tring to stop the violence, but by the looters.
Taken out of context it sounds like a call for non-violence, in context it is a battle cry for the anti cop factions.

Horseshit. Taken anyway you wish your consistent negative response to black complaints is a racist message. Unarmed people have been gunned down even when following orders. Very often the officers involved panicked and have been shown to be unfit for duty. Only an unreasonable SCOTUS ruling gives them the license to kill and allows them to get away with such reckless behavior.

I only gave fact, hands up don't shoot was based on a lie. Hands up don't shoot was the slogan of the arsonists, the looters, and those making excuses for them in Ferguson.
If you want a civil conversation don't call me a racist for stating facts.
I never said I hate black people (which would surprise some of my GFs) so you can't call me racist, your rules.

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RE: BLM Terrorists Assassinate Another Cop? - 7/6/2017 2:15:51 PM   
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Overall police deaths might be down, and there seems to be questions about that, but ambushes and assassinations are up.
We haven't seen this kind of attacks against the police since the 60's.
A drop in crime rates would led to a deceptive drop in overall police deaths.

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