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longwayhome -> RE: Greedy feminists clutching DV funding are ruining men’s lives (7/7/2017 2:09:24 AM)
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
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ORIGINAL: respectmen
The question has always been why feminists don't support men as much as women, not if you said that a feminist said they support such and such.
No, that is NOT the question nor has it ever been the question. The only person asking that question is you and even though it is among the dumbest questions of all time, it has been answered numerous times already.
Why on earth should feminists help men? This is not feminism's role, it is not a role wanted by feminism nor should feminism carry out this role. It is up to men to help themselves. Women can't do it for men. Feminists will respond favourably to requests from men for assistance, but that is all. Men certainly have legitimate gender issues but it's up to men to address those issues.
The task of feminism is to help women achieve gender equality. One real question you would do well to consider is: Why is the prospect of gender equality so threatening for you, A'ness and the other gender Neanderthals?
Don't say that. rm's head will explode.
He already thinks that the word feminist is an adequate description (and insult) for a real nuanced and complex human being. He forgets that we all have multiple identities.
In particular he forgets that these scary, strange creatures called feminists are also socialists, liberals, conservatives, public servants, entrepreneurs, engineers, shop workers, doctors, daughters, sisters, mothers, gardeners, gameplayers, etc. etc. - all roles in which they may well find themselves working with and supporting men as well as women.
The fact that as feminists they are concerned with opportunity and equality for women doesn't immediately make them one-dimensional man-haters. My radical feminist lesbian aunt is very concerned about my wellbeing and wouldn't want any harm to come to me. She is not my sworn enemy in a gender war, despite the fact that she wants to see as many women in the kind of promoted position I have at work (so do I by the way).
I know you know this, but poor rm doesn't. That why he can't handle men who disagree with him and want a more equal society because, for him, it does not compute. In his eyes I must be a man-hating feminist because I espouse many ways of thinking that he sees as dangerously feminist. The fact that he sees the "f" word as an insult in the first place is very telling, as is the way he flings it around so liberally intending it to be an insult.
What he can't see is that men have to think critically about their own gender roles at a time when gender roles are changing (although not as fast or consistently as I would like). His constant butt-hurt when white men like him (and me) still hold most of the power and wealth in the world seems laughable, as does his conviction that a shady group of feminazis control government and social policy.
I do however have some sympathy for his struggle to come to terms with the fact that the world is changing. Many men don't want to be a one dimensional bread-winner with a secondary role in family life but we can demonstrate our convictions in how we live our lives, rather than moaning about it.
The biggest joke is that the people who are most oppressing white men are other richer, more powerful white men, not the feminazis he fantasizes are ruining his life.
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