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LadyEllen -> RE: Sharia "Law" (7/28/2006 9:24:44 AM)
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Hi
I can sympathise about the guns thing - the UK Govt banned handguns, rifles and any shotgun that can take more than two rounds a few years ago. Why - because some nutter went into a school and shot a load of infant children. He had the guns legally - he had been checked by the police, who were aware of his previous and ongoing psych treatment but yet approved him to have them! Thousands of law abiding, taxpaying people were robbed of their guns as a result. That guns dont kill, people do, is not a valid point when the tabloids are raging about all the nuts with guns, and something has to be done to keep them quiet. Even our Olympic target shooters have to train outside the country now, because even they are not allowed to have a gun! I wonder what will happen in 2012 with the games in London...... will the shooting events be held in Ireland maybe, or will UK police arrest (or shoot dead) every target shooter on arrival at Heathrow for having a banned weapon? (dont laugh, it could happen).
Another reason advanced when it emerged that not all gun owners are nutters but perfectly normal people, was that banning guns would reduce gun crime. Well, I am a police adviser and I can tell you now, that gun related crime is on the up across the UK, so it doesnt look like that was the case either. And worse - every time now that someone appears to have a gun in public, a hundred firearms officers descend on them and often end up shooting them dead - we have had plenty of such incidents; a guy with a table leg in a bag walking in town, people playing with fakes (even toys). I know the police cant afford to take chances and that these guns are deadly weapons, but the paranoia about guns we have now is ridiculous. My kids have toy guns, but I darent play with them in the garden anymore in case I get shot by some overzealous officer, or imprisoned (minimum five years) on a charge of using a firearm to threaten others (which applies even if its a fake or toy).
The problem with all this of course is that the nutters and the criminals dont care about the law and will get guns if they want them. So all it means is that law abiding people cant get them. But then, law abiding people dont need them do they, as they will accept whatever laws are made or at least will have to from now on, since they have no means of resisting any oppressive laws that might be made.....
It also makes me wonder I'm afraid about the holding of guns by the Islamist (not Islamic) faction in the UK. How many guns do they have that the police dont know about for fear of being accused of picking on Islam if they went looking? Enough for their stated aims? Enough to equip say a hundred eager young misled Muslims for a larger attack? Enough to equip a few thousand for an Islamist revolution? These are the same people remember who can smuggle in enough dope and heroin to keep the UK well supplied sufficient for the price of heroin to be less than five pounds a hit....... if they can do that, then how difficult would it be to smuggle in a few thousand AK47s and ammunition, or a few hundred RPGs, or a few hundred ground to air missiles..... and with the British Army deployed in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere and the airfields in the hands of these fanatics, who would there be to resist? The Territorial Army?- they're mostly deployed too. The police?-any respectable revolutionary would ensure they were stymied before they started by taking out all senior officers in their homes and blowing up the police stations. Our NATO allies? - probably not, as such a revolution would no doubt be synchronised to take place everywhere at the same time.
Sharia could be here in a few weeks or so. I would fight, if I had anything more than a stick - so the alternative would be to walk with the rest of my family into the reeducation centre, and once my background were established, to die at the end of a rope like so many others before me, because there is no way on this Earth that I will ever praise or call on any deity other than those of my ancestors or submit to a bunch of fanatical halfwits.
Likely, in the end we would win such a struggle though, once our forces were returned home a few weeks later, and organisations restored to some semblance of order. In the meantime thousands will have died, and best of all, Afghanistan and Iraq will be left in the hands of those from whom we took it and/or those who would like to have them, and our western democracies will have been humiliated and injured beyond quick repair. Add in the loss of oil supplies from countries sympathetic to the aims of such a revolution and we are in even bigger problems. And all for the price of only a few thousand Islamist fanatic lives as martyrs in each country - not even a price really as every one goes straight to paradise.
Most worryingly, if I can think up such a plot from my front room in under fifteen minutes..... I will bet that Al Qaeda already has it on the drawing board.
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