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House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at the... - 7/7/2017 1:29:20 PM   
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According to numerous reporters, women have been barred from the Speaker’s lobby for wearing sleeveless dresses and blouses. CBS reports that recently, “a young, female reporter” tried to enter the Speaker’s lobby—a room outside of the House chamber where reporters generally ask legislators questions—but was turned away because the sleeveless dress she was wearing “was considered inappropriate because her shoulders weren’t covered.”

The unnamed reporter, apparently desperate to simply do her job, “ripped out pages from her notebook and stuffed them into her dress’s shoulder openings to create sleeves,” CBS reports. Her improvised outfit was still deemed unacceptable and she was turned away. At least three reporters confirmed that they had received a warning about the apparently arbitrary dress code. One report, Independent Journal Review’s Haley Byrd told CBS that she was kicked out of the Speaker’s lobby in May—the same day House Republicans passed their health care bill—for wearing a sleeveless dress. On Twitter, two reporters confirmed that either they or colleagues had been barred or warned for daring to bare their shoulders.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/the-house-has-a-new-no-sleeveless-dress-code-for-women-1796680020

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 2:38:41 PM   
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Trumps wife Ivanka is hot

Donald Trump wants Sex with His Daughter bit olde for him though eh!


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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 2:39:46 PM   
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Who knew that they were such perverts that even a glimmer of a female shoulder or toe is so distracting that they can't concentrate on their job.

And yes, closed toe shoes are required as well.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 2:46:05 PM   
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daddy! daddy! Bill Maher�s Incest Joke About Ivanka Trump Causes Outrage

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 3:38:42 PM   
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"No, Paul Ryan Did Not Implement A Restrictive Dress Code For Congress"

(oh no comrades, TOWNHALL!)

quote:

No, Paul Ryan Did Not Implement A Restrictive Dress Code For Congress

On Thursday, Jezebel published a piece alleging that there was a new dress code in the House of Representatives: no shoulders allowed.

The House has a new "no sleeveless" dress code for women https://t.co/Gr6Q7u7t0A pic.twitter.com/1P6edjyZBX
— Jezebel (@Jezebel) July 6, 2017

The piece had several anecdotes of female reporters who were prohibited from the speaker's lobby due to their lack of sleeves, and asserted that this was brand new policy.

Other outlets ran with this information, and wrote similar pieces about the supposed new sexist dress code. Jezebel eventually updated its post to clarify that this policy is not new, but as the saying goes--a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

"Women are no longer allowed to wear sleeveless attire in Paul Ryan’s House of Reps" https://t.co/iJvzbXB6xE
— John Iadarola (@johniadarola) July 6, 2017

Meet Capitol Hill's fashion police https://t.co/NdjV11ZzVp pic.twitter.com/dqcDqXc7OW

— Rebecca Shabad (@RebeccaShabad) July 6, 2017
Note to @IvankaTrump: You are in violation of @GOP's new Christian Sharia Law Dress Code https://t.co/n0ycjhJklq pic.twitter.com/yqtaVzTcLr

— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) July 6, 2017
There's just one issue, that is more than a little bit relevant to the whole thing: This is not a new dress code and it is not a new policy under Paul Ryan and it is not suddenly being enforced for the first time in a while. The dress code has existed for well over a century.

Other journalists stepped in to correct the record.

This is simply wrong. The Speakers' Lobby dress code has been this way for decades. Can be argued it should change -- but let's be factual https://t.co/QDgti2fnGj
— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) July 7, 2017

Exactly. Don't hang this on @SpeakerRyan I've covered Congress&have seen women and men incl mbrs booted for breaking the dress code https://t.co/jprsREGScR
— NPC President (@NPCPresident) July 7, 2017

Man oh man this storyline has gone off the rails, Paul Ryan didn't create the dress code! https://t.co/fEKrGY2AL5
— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) July 7, 2017

Dress code for men and women in the speaker's lobby has existed for years, it's nuts stories are saying otherwise. https://t.co/sTuasQDOAD
— Maggie Severns (@MaggieSeverns) July 7, 2017

As long as I've worked on the Hill (on and off for 10+ years), it's been enforced.

Including when Nancy Pelosi was Speaker https://t.co/ZZRDpLrtH1
— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) July 7, 2017

1980 was the first time I walked into the Speaker's Lobby. The dress code hasn't changed https://t.co/iQYVDlDh52
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) July 7, 2017

Did someone (in NYC?) just figure out the Speaker's Lobby has a dress code? It's been exactly the same for 10+ years I've worked there.
— Jackie Kucinich (@JFKucinich) July 6, 2017

This dress code has been in effect forever. Nothing to do w paul ryan https://t.co/lOGQIOJxI2
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 7, 2017

So there you have it. The dress code is not new, is not over the top, and is not something ripped from the Handmaid's Tale. This is just more fake news.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/07/07/no-paul-ryan-did-not-implement-a-restrictive-dress-code-for-congress-n2351819

youd do well to take a break from the forums, and get another hobby and take a few of your fellow fools with you.

or at least try to be a little more circumspect instead of being a partisan hack.



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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 3:49:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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Who knew that they were such perverts that even a glimmer of a female shoulder or toe is so distracting that they can't concentrate on their job.

And yes, closed toe shoes are required as well.



I keep my shoulders covered every day at work. If my dress doesn't have sleeves, I wear a sweater. It's nothing outrageous to require - it's professional dress.

Closed toed shoes, though, are a deal breaker. I wear boots or I wear open toed shoes. Nothing in between. I'd have to change careers.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 3:53:56 PM   
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or you bring boots along just for the few minutes you are in the speakers' lobby...

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 4:14:41 PM   
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In all fairness, Ivanka wasn't in the speaker's lobby, etc.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 5:07:09 PM   
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I can say this:

"There is no democracy without tank-tops in the Senate and House!"

In fact, I think that our representatives should be required to wear the attire and hair styles of the majority of their constituent voters.


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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 5:48:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

"No, Paul Ryan Did Not Implement A Restrictive Dress Code For Congress"

(oh no comrades, TOWNHALL!)

quote:

No, Paul Ryan Did Not Implement A Restrictive Dress Code For Congress

On Thursday, Jezebel published a piece alleging that there was a new dress code in the House of Representatives: no shoulders allowed.

The House has a new "no sleeveless" dress code for women https://t.co/Gr6Q7u7t0A pic.twitter.com/1P6edjyZBX
— Jezebel (@Jezebel) July 6, 2017

The piece had several anecdotes of female reporters who were prohibited from the speaker's lobby due to their lack of sleeves, and asserted that this was brand new policy.

Other outlets ran with this information, and wrote similar pieces about the supposed new sexist dress code. Jezebel eventually updated its post to clarify that this policy is not new, but as the saying goes--a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.

"Women are no longer allowed to wear sleeveless attire in Paul Ryan’s House of Reps" https://t.co/iJvzbXB6xE
— John Iadarola (@johniadarola) July 6, 2017

Meet Capitol Hill's fashion police https://t.co/NdjV11ZzVp pic.twitter.com/dqcDqXc7OW

— Rebecca Shabad (@RebeccaShabad) July 6, 2017
Note to @IvankaTrump: You are in violation of @GOP's new Christian Sharia Law Dress Code https://t.co/n0ycjhJklq pic.twitter.com/yqtaVzTcLr

— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) July 6, 2017
There's just one issue, that is more than a little bit relevant to the whole thing: This is not a new dress code and it is not a new policy under Paul Ryan and it is not suddenly being enforced for the first time in a while. The dress code has existed for well over a century.

Other journalists stepped in to correct the record.

This is simply wrong. The Speakers' Lobby dress code has been this way for decades. Can be argued it should change -- but let's be factual https://t.co/QDgti2fnGj
— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) July 7, 2017

Exactly. Don't hang this on @SpeakerRyan I've covered Congress&have seen women and men incl mbrs booted for breaking the dress code https://t.co/jprsREGScR
— NPC President (@NPCPresident) July 7, 2017

Man oh man this storyline has gone off the rails, Paul Ryan didn't create the dress code! https://t.co/fEKrGY2AL5
— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) July 7, 2017

Dress code for men and women in the speaker's lobby has existed for years, it's nuts stories are saying otherwise. https://t.co/sTuasQDOAD
— Maggie Severns (@MaggieSeverns) July 7, 2017

As long as I've worked on the Hill (on and off for 10+ years), it's been enforced.

Including when Nancy Pelosi was Speaker https://t.co/ZZRDpLrtH1
— Kasie Hunt (@kasie) July 7, 2017

1980 was the first time I walked into the Speaker's Lobby. The dress code hasn't changed https://t.co/iQYVDlDh52
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) July 7, 2017

Did someone (in NYC?) just figure out the Speaker's Lobby has a dress code? It's been exactly the same for 10+ years I've worked there.
— Jackie Kucinich (@JFKucinich) July 6, 2017

This dress code has been in effect forever. Nothing to do w paul ryan https://t.co/lOGQIOJxI2
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) July 7, 2017

So there you have it. The dress code is not new, is not over the top, and is not something ripped from the Handmaid's Tale. This is just more fake news.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/07/07/no-paul-ryan-did-not-implement-a-restrictive-dress-code-for-congress-n2351819

youd do well to take a break from the forums, and get another hobby and take a few of your fellow fools with you.

or at least try to be a little more circumspect instead of being a partisan hack.



The article in the OP makes it clear that this was not new. When it was first published yesterday it may not have, but long before it was posted here, it had been updated and included the info that it was not a new policy.

The only "fools" were the people who didn't read it and thought otherwise. Their mistake.

However, it is an arcane rule that until recently hasn't been enforced, and when it has been enforced, it has been inconsistent.

And yes, Paul Ryan is the one deciding what is acceptable and what isn't, as pointed out in the article in the OP:

CBS reports that the House’s dress code is largely a matter of interpretation left, in this case, to the whim of House Speaker Paul Ryan. The only written rule simply states that women should wear “appropriate attire,” and leaves the interpretation of that phrase, as well as its enforcement, to the Speaker of the House. According to Ryan, that means that women—reporters, lawmakers and staff alike—should cover their toes and well as their shoulders. Open-toed shoes, like sleeveless dresses and blouses, are both now banned in the Speaker’s lobby. Those rules do not apply to the Senate.

And none of this has to do with party.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 5:54:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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Who knew that they were such perverts that even a glimmer of a female shoulder or toe is so distracting that they can't concentrate on their job.

And yes, closed toe shoes are required as well.



I keep my shoulders covered every day at work. If my dress doesn't have sleeves, I wear a sweater. It's nothing outrageous to require - it's professional dress.

Closed toed shoes, though, are a deal breaker. I wear boots or I wear open toed shoes. Nothing in between. I'd have to change careers.

What is considered professional can be subjective. I see nothing wrong with dress of this sort, and there is a lot of fashion directed towards professional women that includes sleeveless tops.


Same with shoes. I can think of lots of closed toed shoes that are not professional, and vice-versa.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 6:27:16 PM   
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Everybody keep hysterically panicking

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 6:44:08 PM   
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of course is has to do with party

all the criticism and misinformation of the "new" rule is from the left.

the title of the thread says "house bars", which is run by republicans and ryan.

are we to suppose that the op posted this because what, unlike ALL of his other threads, he's not interested in slamming the right, but in this particular case he's interested in women's fashion liberation?

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 8:06:00 PM   
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Politically motivated and targeted new and convenient invocation of a rule, not a "new rule."

Learn to read.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 8:20:59 PM   
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That they decided "Well shit yeah, let's enforce it! Certainly we're not gonna change it" doesn't really look better.

Oh no comrade!

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 8:22:19 PM   
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quote:

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of course is has to do with party

all the criticism and misinformation of the "new" rule is from the left.

the title of the thread says "house bars", which is run by republicans and ryan.

are we to suppose that the op posted this because what, unlike ALL of his other threads, he's not interested in slamming the right, but in this particular case he's interested in women's fashion liberation?

I think it's a ridiculous bit of nonsense that hit the news.

Doesn't it seem ridiculous to you?

Or are you such a partisan hack that everything is an act of war to you?

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/7/2017 10:21:25 PM   
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Are men ban from wearing sleeveless too in the house?

If it's equally applied for both genders. I do not see any problem here.

I believe the rules apply to men too except men seldom go into serious business matters sleeveless.

So all is good! The female reporters needs to stop asking for special treatment.

Just because previous administrators failed to enforce a long standing rule in the past, it just means their negligence of enforcing what is a long time rule.

Besides, many establishments have dress code. Either abide by the dress code or don't go there.

I know some men specifically chose careers so that they don't have to wear suits and can just wear shorts, singlet and flip flop to work everyday.

And I hate choosing my own clothes, so I am most happy with jobs that gives me a uniform and takes care of what I need to wear every day.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/8/2017 4:34:10 AM   
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This is clearly an unconstitutional dress code: American women have a right to bare arms.

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/8/2017 5:16:33 AM   
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I always felt sorry for all those poor armless bears
Fuking savages the right to bear arms

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RE: House bars sleeveless dresses (like Ivanka wears at... - 7/8/2017 6:06:40 AM   
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This is clearly an unconstitutional dress code: American women have a right to bare arms.


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