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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/15/2017 2:14:04 PM   
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If a policeman in the US is in fear for his life then any shooting he does in his defense is justified under the law.
These dogs look a lot like pit bulls, and justified or not, pit bulls have a rep for being "killer" dogs.
In the heat of the moment he may have genuinely been in fear of injury or even death.
However, that said, pepper spray might have been a better choice at that moment if he was thinking clearly.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/15/2017 2:52:28 PM   
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If a policeman in the US is in fear for his life then any shooting he does in his defense is justified under the law.
These dogs look a lot like pit bulls, and justified or not, pit bulls have a rep for being "killer" dogs.
In the heat of the moment he may have genuinely been in fear of injury or even death.
However, that said, pepper spray might have been a better choice at that moment if he was thinking clearly.

If the dogs were chained it gets real shaky, I think I would have tried "bad dog lay down". But then I have only had one dog I couldn't
deal with without violence in my whole life. He ended up with a sore head, jumped at me and flew headfirst into the stone wall behind me, I never did a thing to him.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/15/2017 3:42:13 PM   
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So how did the dog shooting go?
Explain it to me

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 2:03:45 AM   
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Seriously..., I think the biggest problem with the American Police Force is they are sooooo jumpy and scared of everything. This is an action of panic and fear! And this dude should not be a cop!

He walks into people's private property and their dogs are just doing their job to bark at him and he shoots them?

Seriously.....

http://www.startribune.com/money-pouring-in-for-vet-bills-for-2-dogs-shot-by-police-in-n-mpls-yard/433637483/


Your link says the dogs were barking at the cop and charged him. Someone else said that they were chained up and wagging their tails, which is accurate ?
And why doesn't anyone say why the cop was even there?

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 4:59:23 AM   
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Having looked at the video of the incident, I am amazed that the officer was fearful of a dog wagging its tail, as it approached him, then stopping and turning its head away a couple of metres from the cop.

In future, I can see the headlines "Dog Bites Policeman, claims self defence, exonerated by a jury of its peers"!

It's cops like this that give US police such a bad reputation.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 7:51:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Seriously..., I think the biggest problem with the American Police Force is they are sooooo jumpy and scared of everything. This is an action of panic and fear! And this dude should not be a cop!

He walks into people's private property and their dogs are just doing their job to bark at him and he shoots them?

Seriously.....

http://www.startribune.com/money-pouring-in-for-vet-bills-for-2-dogs-shot-by-police-in-n-mpls-yard/433637483/


Your link says the dogs were barking at the cop and charged him. Someone else said that they were chained up and wagging their tails, which is accurate ?
And why doesn't anyone say why the cop was even there?

The cops were there because the home alarm had gone off. It was a false alarm, and the family had immediately called the alarm company and cancelled it. The cops arrived anyway, and instead of going to the front door and knocking, which was proper protocol, they approached through the fenced back yard, without announcing themselves.

The cops said the dogs charged them, and that is what they wrote in the police report. However, in addition to an alarm system, the family also had video surveillance, and they have released a tape showing the first dog walking towards the officer with his tail wagging, and the officer responded by shooting him in the jaw. The second dog was approaching as well, not charging, and he shot it three times. Afterwards, despite being greeted by the family and knowing that it was a false alarm, the cops prevented them from calling a vet or trying to get the dogs help, saying that Animal Control would be sent to retrieve the dogs. Yet Animal Control was never called.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 8:41:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Seriously..., I think the biggest problem with the American Police Force is they are sooooo jumpy and scared of everything. This is an action of panic and fear! And this dude should not be a cop!

He walks into people's private property and their dogs are just doing their job to bark at him and he shoots them?

Seriously.....

http://www.startribune.com/money-pouring-in-for-vet-bills-for-2-dogs-shot-by-police-in-n-mpls-yard/433637483/


Your link says the dogs were barking at the cop and charged him. Someone else said that they were chained up and wagging their tails, which is accurate ?
And why doesn't anyone say why the cop was even there?

The cops were there because the home alarm had gone off. It was a false alarm, and the family had immediately called the alarm company and cancelled it. The cops arrived anyway, and instead of going to the front door and knocking, which was proper protocol, they approached through the fenced back yard, without announcing themselves.

The cops said the dogs charged them, and that is what they wrote in the police report. However, in addition to an alarm system, the family also had video surveillance, and they have released a tape showing the first dog walking towards the officer with his tail wagging, and the officer responded by shooting him in the jaw. The second dog was approaching as well, not charging, and he shot it three times. Afterwards, despite being greeted by the family and knowing that it was a false alarm, the cops prevented them from calling a vet or trying to get the dogs help, saying that Animal Control would be sent to retrieve the dogs. Yet Animal Control was never called.


Their site must be totally screwed up because the video it gave me a video of the family plaing with the dogs when they got back from the vet. But it sounds like the cops totally scwred up, start to finish.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 8:51:40 PM   
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I asked you a question and i did so nicely - and ideas yet clueless idiot?

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 9:58:55 PM   
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there you have it it - it shits for its mom

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 10:06:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I asked you a question and i did so nicely - and ideas yet clueless idiot?

You realize you just called yourself a clueless idiot.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 10:16:09 PM   
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I call my self many names - senile earlier and more than once

You are not a sock why do you hide yourself here gun nutter?

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 10:18:14 PM   
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I call my self many names - senile earlier and more than once

You are not a sock why do you hide yourself here gun nutter?

A I do not hide myself.
B I am not a gun nut.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 10:24:35 PM   
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are you calling me a liar?

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 10:47:06 PM   
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wise move

wanders off

My waffle aside even I know you are not a sock

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 11:27:22 PM   
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are you calling me a liar?

No, I am saying you are grossly mistake

I can put you on hide so I can't see you, but I have seen nothing that allows me to put myself on hide from you.
I am not a gun nut no matter what you think.


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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/16/2017 11:43:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Their site must be totally screwed up because the video it gave me a video of the family plaing with the dogs when they got back from the vet. But it sounds like the cops totally scwred up, start to finish.

What specs are you running on?

I am on a pretty old computer running on XP and super old hard ware and I have no issues.

But yea, I think the cop who shot the dog deserve to lose his license, especially if he climbed into the backyard of a resident that is not proper protocol. Beyond shooting the dog, it was his disregard of proper protocol that cause dogs protecting their owner back yard to bark at him and cause him to freak out and shoot the dogs.

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/17/2017 1:20:27 AM   
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You can crawl into the corner and shit your fuking pants

No one cares

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/17/2017 1:21:32 AM   
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vampires eyes do you care?

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/17/2017 1:56:13 AM   
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You can crawl into the corner and shit your fuking pants

No one cares

You are participating in vile attacks for no reason

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RE: Police shoots Dogs in "self-defense" - 7/17/2017 4:55:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HaveRopeWillBind

If a policeman in the US is in fear for his life then any shooting he does in his defense is justified under the law.
These dogs look a lot like pit bulls, and justified or not, pit bulls have a rep for being "killer" dogs.
In the heat of the moment he may have genuinely been in fear of injury or even death.
However, that said, pepper spray might have been a better choice at that moment if he was thinking clearly.

Or he might have just shot the dogs because he thought he could get away with it as he didn't know that he was being filmed.

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