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judeao-christain outmoded? So its now ok to murder, steal etc? Should we abolish that then?

Oh no, not at all. We can justify proscribing murder and stealing without the judeo-christian rational. Several passages in the Quaran forbid matter. Humanism is a philosophy that shuns murder. Oh yeah, we do not really need the Ten Commandments for such an obvious prohibition.

I've always found the whole "(my own) religion is the only source of functioning morality and everybody else is an amoral scumbag" hilariously pathetic, even when it isn't being used to diss somebody else's religion.
It'd be interesting to see an explanation of how Bertrand Russell or Norman Borlaug are morally inferior to "christians" like the late Fred Phelps, put it that way.

its like Nikola Tesla said, Marconi is a good man, let him continue, he is using 16 of my patents

same applies.

That's the most absurd analogy you've made in here yet. You've got nothing and were farting through your teeth rather than speaking honestly yet again. What a surprise.

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The ability to tolerate people with different belief systems is one of the marks of a civilised society.

Successful multiculturalism is just about making the decision that you are happy to live alongside people who are different to you. Everyone's community and society changes and no individual is in complete control of it. What fantasy society are some people really trying to maintain?

In the UK we struggled hugely to come to terms with a Catholic minority, so we accused them of treason, imprisoned them and tortured them. We killed monarchs, forced a large proportion of our society to worship in secret and all but forced non-conformists to leave Britain and go to America in search of freedom.

We got over that and now think that the religious intolerance of Tudor England and Stuart Britain was a brutally offensive and uncivilised. We can perfectly well deal with a Muslim or any other religious and cultural minority.

Xenophobia, intolerance to difference and a belief that you can ossify your community is not a natural, ethical or moral position. Fear of the other is a weakness and a sign of a society that lacks confidence, not a sign of a strong society with strong values.

That goes too for the weak, frightened posters here who can't handle people who are different and have no faith in their own society to absorb difference and grow as a result. They are not defending their communities or countries, they are running them down. Far from having pride and being loyal, they are indicating that they don't trust their countries and fellow countrymen and women.

And they have the nerve to call that patriotism.

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judeao-christain outmoded? So its now ok to murder, steal etc? Should we abolish that then?

Oh no, not at all. We can justify proscribing murder and stealing without the judeo-christian rational. Several passages in the Quaran forbid matter. Humanism is a philosophy that shuns murder. Oh yeah, we do not really need the Ten Commandments for such an obvious prohibition.

I've always found the whole "(my own) religion is the only source of functioning morality and everybody else is an amoral scumbag" hilariously pathetic, even when it isn't being used to diss somebody else's religion.
It'd be interesting to see an explanation of how Bertrand Russell or Norman Borlaug are morally inferior to "christians" like the late Fred Phelps, put it that way.

its like Nikola Tesla said, Marconi is a good man, let him continue, he is using 16 of my patents

same applies.

That's the most absurd analogy you've made in here yet. You've got nothing and were farting through your teeth rather than speaking honestly yet again. What a surprise.

WM, do you wonder why his monologues always fall like pieces of shit abandoned in a roadside truck stop? Maybe that is where he does his research.

Oh thats easy, because when faced with scientific data that run contrary to atheists beliefs they simply take the academic high road!

they implement their emergency anti-reality system for self protection.

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Really? Prove they are all false gods vince, LMAO, more like you are throwing shit at the wall hoping you can get something to stick.


Oh look vince what a surprise! you misrepresented reality once again! imagine that:


Religion in the Ancient World
Definition
by Joshua J. Mark
published on 02 September 2009
Book of the Dead of Aaneru ()

Religion (from the Latin Religio, meaning 'restraint,' or Relegere, according to Cicero, meaning 'to repeat, to read again,' or, most likely, Religionem, 'to show respect for what is sacred') is an organized system of beliefs and practices revolving around, or leading to, a transcendent spiritual experience. There is no culture recorded in human history which has not practiced some form of religion.


In ancient times, religion was indistinguishable from what is known as 'mythology' in the present day and consisted of regular rituals based on a belief in higher supernatural entities who created and continued to maintain the world and surrounding cosmos. Theses entities were anthropomorphic and behaved in ways which mirrored the values of the culture closely (as in Egypt) or sometimes engaged in acts antithetical to those values (as one sees with the gods of Greece). Religion, then and now, concerns itself with the spiritual aspect of the human condition, gods and goddesses (or a single personal god or goddess), the creation of the world, a human being's place in the world, life after death, eternity, and how to escape from suffering in this world or in the next; and every nation has created its own god in its own image and resemblance. The Greek philosopher Xenophanes of Colophon (c. 570-478 BCE) once wrote:

Mortals suppose that the gods are born and have clothes and voices and shapes like their own. But if oxen, horses and lions had hands or could paint with their hands and fashion works as men do, horses would paint horse-like images of gods and oxen oxen-like ones, and each would fashion bodies like their own. The Ethiopians consider the gods flat-nosed and black; the Thracians blue-eyed and red-haired.

Xenophanes believed there was "one god, among gods and men the greatest, not at all like mortals in body or mind" but he was in the minority. Monotheism did not make sense to the ancient people aside from the visionaries and prophets of Judaism. Most people, at least as far as can be discerned from the written and archaeological record, believed in many gods, each of whom had a special sphere of influence. In one's personal life there is not just one other person who provides for one's needs; one interacts with many different kinds of people in order to achieve wholeness and maintain a living.

The Atheist twu god

so where is the thou shalt not murder and steal from your atheist philosophers that predate god based religions? Seems nothing has changed, atheists have been hijacking god based religions from the beginning of time all while simultaneously condemning it. nice racket! Seems you like ot fight your battles with an empty gun

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judeao-christain outmoded? So its now ok to murder, steal etc? Should we abolish that then?

Oh no, not at all. We can justify proscribing murder and stealing without the judeo-christian rational. Several passages in the Quaran forbid matter. Humanism is a philosophy that shuns murder. Oh yeah, we do not really need the Ten Commandments for such an obvious prohibition.

I've always found the whole "(my own) religion is the only source of functioning morality and everybody else is an amoral scumbag" hilariously pathetic, even when it isn't being used to diss somebody else's religion.
It'd be interesting to see an explanation of how Bertrand Russell or Norman Borlaug are morally inferior to "christians" like the late Fred Phelps, put it that way.

its like Nikola Tesla said, Marconi is a good man, let him continue, he is using 16 of my patents

same applies.

That's the most absurd analogy you've made in here yet. You've got nothing and were farting through your teeth rather than speaking honestly yet again. What a surprise.

WM, do you wonder why his monologues always fall like pieces of shit abandoned in a roadside truck stop? Maybe that is where he does his research.

Oh thats easy, because when faced with scientific data that run contrary to atheists beliefs they simply take the academic high road!

they implement their emergency anti-reality system for self protection.

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The ability to tolerate people with different belief systems is one of the marks of a civilised society.

Successful multiculturalism is just about making the decision that you are happy to live alongside people who are different to you. Everyone's community and society changes and no individual is in complete control of it. What fantasy society are some people really trying to maintain?

In the UK we struggled hugely to come to terms with a Catholic minority, so we accused them of treason, imprisoned them and tortured them. We killed monarchs, forced a large proportion of our society to worship in secret and all but forced non-conformists to leave Britain and go to America in search of freedom.

We got over that and now think that the religious intolerance of Tudor England and Stuart Britain was a brutally offensive and uncivilised. We can perfectly well deal with a Muslim or any other religious and cultural minority.

Xenophobia, intolerance to difference and a belief that you can ossify your community is not a natural, ethical or moral position. Fear of the other is a weakness and a sign of a society that lacks confidence, not a sign of a strong society with strong values.

That goes too for the weak, frightened posters here who can't handle people who are different and have no faith in their own society to absorb difference and grow as a result. They are not defending their communities or countries, they are running them down. Far from having pride and being loyal, they are indicating that they don't trust their countries and fellow countrymen and women.

And they have the nerve to call that patriotism.

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The ability to tolerate people with different belief systems is one of the marks of a civilised society.

Successful multiculturalism is just about making the decision that you are happy to live alongside people who are different to you. Everyone's community and society changes and no individual is in complete control of it. What fantasy society are some people really trying to maintain?

In the UK we struggled hugely to come to terms with a Catholic minority, so we accused them of treason, imprisoned them and tortured them. We killed monarchs, forced a large proportion of our society to worship in secret and all but forced non-conformists to leave Britain and go to America in search of freedom.

We got over that and now think that the religious intolerance of Tudor England and Stuart Britain was a brutally offensive and uncivilised. We can perfectly well deal with a Muslim or any other religious and cultural minority.

Xenophobia, intolerance to difference and a belief that you can ossify your community is not a natural, ethical or moral position. Fear of the other is a weakness and a sign of a society that lacks confidence, not a sign of a strong society with strong values.

That goes too for the weak, frightened posters here who can't handle people who are different and have no faith in their own society to absorb difference and grow as a result. They are not defending their communities or countries, they are running them down. Far from having pride and being loyal, they are indicating that they don't trust their countries and fellow countrymen and women.

And they have the nerve to call that patriotism.

You've got an excellent brainwashing program in Britain.

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The ability to tolerate people with different belief systems is one of the marks of a civilised society.

Successful multiculturalism is just about making the decision that you are happy to live alongside people who are different to you. Everyone's community and society changes and no individual is in complete control of it. What fantasy society are some people really trying to maintain?

In the UK we struggled hugely to come to terms with a Catholic minority, so we accused them of treason, imprisoned them and tortured them. We killed monarchs, forced a large proportion of our society to worship in secret and all but forced non-conformists to leave Britain and go to America in search of freedom.

We got over that and now think that the religious intolerance of Tudor England and Stuart Britain was a brutally offensive and uncivilised. We can perfectly well deal with a Muslim or any other religious and cultural minority.

Xenophobia, intolerance to difference and a belief that you can ossify your community is not a natural, ethical or moral position. Fear of the other is a weakness and a sign of a society that lacks confidence, not a sign of a strong society with strong values.

That goes too for the weak, frightened posters here who can't handle people who are different and have no faith in their own society to absorb difference and grow as a result. They are not defending their communities or countries, they are running them down. Far from having pride and being loyal, they are indicating that they don't trust their countries and fellow countrymen and women.

And they have the nerve to call that patriotism.

You've got an excellent brainwashing program in Britain.

Care to elaborate?

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Any attitude that differs from parochial American bigotry has to be the result of brainwashing, as nobody is stupid enough to develop a value system that in any way disagrees with the PAB stance otherwise.

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judeao-christain outmoded? So its now ok to murder, steal etc? Should we abolish that then?

Oh no, not at all. We can justify proscribing murder and stealing without the judeo-christian rational. Several passages in the Quaran forbid matter. Humanism is a philosophy that shuns murder. Oh yeah, we do not really need the Ten Commandments for such an obvious prohibition.

I've always found the whole "(my own) religion is the only source of functioning morality and everybody else is an amoral scumbag" hilariously pathetic, even when it isn't being used to diss somebody else's religion.
It'd be interesting to see an explanation of how Bertrand Russell or Norman Borlaug are morally inferior to "christians" like the late Fred Phelps, put it that way.

its like Nikola Tesla said, Marconi is a good man, let him continue, he is using 16 of my patents

same applies.

That's the most absurd analogy you've made in here yet. You've got nothing and were farting through your teeth rather than speaking honestly yet again. What a surprise.

WM, do you wonder why his monologues always fall like pieces of shit abandoned in a roadside truck stop? Maybe that is where he does his research.

Oh thats easy, because when faced with scientific data that run contrary to atheists beliefs they simply take the academic high road!

they implement their emergency anti-reality system for self protection.

Of course. You, the jihadists, the Amish and Opus Dei are vastly smarter than anybody who understands how stuff works. How could anybody ever think otherwise?
Oh wait, I know: because they're not a conceited moron with an allergy to any facts that conflict with their blind faith that they're the smartest bear in the wood, that's why.

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judeao-christain outmoded? So its now ok to murder, steal etc? Should we abolish that then?

Oh no, not at all. We can justify proscribing murder and stealing without the judeo-christian rational. Several passages in the Quaran forbid matter. Humanism is a philosophy that shuns murder. Oh yeah, we do not really need the Ten Commandments for such an obvious prohibition.

I've always found the whole "(my own) religion is the only source of functioning morality and everybody else is an amoral scumbag" hilariously pathetic, even when it isn't being used to diss somebody else's religion.
It'd be interesting to see an explanation of how Bertrand Russell or Norman Borlaug are morally inferior to "christians" like the late Fred Phelps, put it that way.

its like Nikola Tesla said, Marconi is a good man, let him continue, he is using 16 of my patents

same applies.

That's the most absurd analogy you've made in here yet. You've got nothing and were farting through your teeth rather than speaking honestly yet again. What a surprise.

WM, do you wonder why his monologues always fall like pieces of shit abandoned in a roadside truck stop? Maybe that is where he does his research.

Oh thats easy, because when faced with scientific data that run contrary to atheists beliefs they simply take the academic high road!

they implement their emergency anti-reality system for self protection.

Of course. You, the jihadists, the Amish and Opus Dei are vastly smarter than anybody who understands how stuff works. How could anybody ever think otherwise?
Oh wait, I know: because they're not a conceited moron with an allergy to any facts that conflict with their blind faith that they're the smartest bear in the wood, that's why.

atheists in practice do not understand how stuff works, by a long shot, they prove it out here every day, as we can see in my post 245 proving they are all dealing with a 1/2 deck, simply throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick, your mistake as usual.

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but you lie when you accuse me of lying unless of course you can 'prove' your bullshit.

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but you lie when you accuse me of lying unless of course you can 'prove' your bullshit.

No, you have been caught in a lie (is that possible? Eek!) It is incumbent on you to prove your 'truth' Provide some citations. Whatever. It will take a lot for you to show any little bit of evidence in your favor. Many people here seem to call you a liar. Now is your chance to prove them wrong. Go to it, RO. Show the bastards how wrong they are and what a great scholar you are. Rooting for you, Champ!

its like trying to teach physics to a 2 year old, so dont get your hopes up....and if the whoretard wants to prove I lied its up to the whore tard to provide the evidence in support of its claim not me, but it wont because as always its a false claim

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but you lie when you accuse me of lying unless of course you can 'prove' your bullshit.

No, you have been caught in a lie (is that possible? Eek!) It is incumbent on you to prove your 'truth' Provide some citations. Whatever. It will take a lot for you to show any little bit of evidence in your favor. Many people here seem to call you a liar. Now is your chance to prove them wrong. Go to it, RO. Show the bastards how wrong they are and what a great scholar you are. Rooting for you, Champ!

its like trying to teach physics to a 2 year old, so dont get your hopes up....and if the whoretard wants to prove I lied its up to the whore tard to provide the evidence in support of its claim not me, but it wont because as always its a false claim

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I never made such a claim, rant away, keep pissing against the wind, its entertaining. (at least for me)
Face it you cant prove I lied about anything any more than you can prove so much as one jew was gassed, hell you cant even provide any material evidence so much as one jew was gassed. :)

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Face it you cant prove I lied about anything any more than you can prove so much as one jew was gassed, hell you cant even provide any material evidence so much as one jew was gassed. :)