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vincentML -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/22/2017 8:17:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well you really shot yourself in the foot with first the claim that atheists are spritual then later that they meditate since that is the basis of virtually all religions on the planet.

and now we can see by the brain scans that atheists brains shut down when trying to ponder God, while religious peoples brains light up.


Ah no, I didn't say atheists were spiritual; I said some meditated.

The purpose of meditation is to shut down the mind. Atheists succeed Christians fail mostly because they are self serving and phony.

You are a dunce for this topic.




Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/22/2017 10:17:30 AM)

brain scans seem to prove you are wrong



[img]https://i.imgur.com/YSJeYrk.jpg[/img]

we can clearly see there is 'much' more brain activity during meditation.




mnottertail -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/22/2017 10:50:43 AM)

No, we cant. give us the areas of activity in each say to the -6 power and what is the difference? Meditation is not religion.




Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 8:50:29 AM)

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right? [8|]




WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 8:59:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

Never heard of Christianity, Judaism or Islam (where only the Sufis meditate), then?
Meditation leads to gnosis, and most forms of the big three desert religions are opposed to that. Saying fringe mystics sects represent the whole of a religion is either naive, stupid or deliberate misinterpretation when these people have obviously been pushed out of the mainstream for a reason.




mnottertail -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 9:02:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right? [8|]

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero




Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 9:03:30 AM)

Mainstream? WTF are you smoking? Citation please




WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 9:07:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero

I'd be interested to hear how many baptists, catholics, anglicans, non-sufi jihadists or kikes meditate on a regular basis. It isn't a thing for most members of the three main religions at all.




WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 9:12:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Mainstream? WTF are you smoking? Citation please

You're doing that thing of making a ridiculous statement that you failed to provide even a scrap of evidence for, and then demanding a citation when somebody questions your bullshit again, aren't you?
Provide some proof for your own statement fi5st. Which members of the christian, jewish or moslem massives meditate on a regular basis? It isn't even like most buddhists or hindus who aren't some sort of clergy (either ordained or self appointed) meditate on the regular, ffs.




Tkman117 -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 9:13:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero

I'd be interested to hear how many baptists, catholics, anglicans, non-sufi jihadists or kikes meditate on a regular basis. It isn't a thing for most members of the three main religions at all.

FR

In many circles the act of prayer is seen as very similar to meditation, as it can light up similar parts of the brain as seen during brain scans. There isn't much difference between the two, so for a religious person to say that there is more merit to praying to god over meditation is scientifically unfounded.




WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 9:22:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero

I'd be interested to hear how many baptists, catholics, anglicans, non-sufi jihadists or kikes meditate on a regular basis. It isn't a thing for most members of the three main religions at all.

FR

In many circles the act of prayer is seen as very similar to meditation, as it can light up similar parts of the brain as seen during brain scans. There isn't much difference between the two, so for a religious person to say that there is more merit to praying to god over meditation is scientifically unfounded.

In many more circles the act of a prayer is a rote thing to shuffle through quickly while thinking about something else entirely. You can't get much further from meditation as a mental state than that.
Most catholics are not Joan of Ac. Most protestants are not Ann Lee. Most jews are not Abremelin. Most moslems are not Hassan i Sabbhah. Their religion is there so that they can go through the motions and ignore stirring that stuff up, while having an excuse not to think to hard.




Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 10:14:45 AM)

my my my, so indignant when you cant find a citation, refusing to click on citations provided or view image scans likewise provided while screaming denial is at least in line with your SOP out here, making a fool out of yourself as usual.




Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 10:16:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Their religion is there so that they can go through the motions and ignore stirring that stuff up, while having an excuse not to think to hard.


and nothing compares to the loonacy of the atheists religion!





Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 10:18:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero

I'd be interested to hear how many baptists, catholics, anglicans, non-sufi jihadists or kikes meditate on a regular basis. It isn't a thing for most members of the three main religions at all.

FR

In many circles the act of prayer is seen as very similar to meditation, as it can light up similar parts of the brain as seen during brain scans. There isn't much difference between the two, so for a religious person to say that there is more merit to praying to god over meditation is scientifically unfounded.



Likewise in reverse ;)

All prayer since the beginning of time that I am aware of requires some level of meditation.

Its the usual par for the course, atheists imitating religious people and hijacking the elements of religion and pretending its not religion.




Musicmystery -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 11:59:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero

I'd be interested to hear how many baptists, catholics, anglicans, non-sufi jihadists or kikes meditate on a regular basis. It isn't a thing for most members of the three main religions at all.

I'd be curious about data on this.




WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 12:42:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

my my my, so indignant when you cant find a citation, refusing to click on citations provided or view image scans likewise provided while screaming denial is at least in line with your SOP out here, making a fool out of yourself as usual.

You have a cite to prove your claim that meditation is a regular thing for most religious folk, then?
Or are you just trying to move the goalposts as you usually do when you make indefensible and absurd claims with no substantiation?




Musicmystery -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 1:32:37 PM)

I'd think many, but probably not most.




Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 6:31:52 PM)

SOP, the whore is just a dumbassed troll


Meditation Spirituality and Religion

By Susan Chow, PhD, ELS

Throughout history, meditation has played a large role in many spiritual and religious practices.


Some of these techniques and beliefs are discussed in this article.


Buddhism

Many mediation techniques commonly practiced today originate from ancient Buddhist meditation texts, which continue to be used by followers of the religion today.

Meditation is important on the pathway to enlightenment and nirvana in the Buddhist faith, which are believe to help reach a state of serenity and insight. Several techniques including breath meditation and recollections are widely taught in Buddhist schools, but there are also distinct methods that differ between different regions. As a result, Buddhist meditation is a variable practice with many different paths that may lead to enlightenment and nirvana.

In recent times, many non-Buddhist individuals have adopted their meditative techniques for various reasons, including increasing awareness of self, and the practice is becoming more popular.

Taoism

Taoist meditation was greatly influenced by Buddhist practices and involves various techniques of concentration, insight and visualization. Followers of the practices may visualize the solar and lunar essences within their body to give health and long life.

Inward training involves breath control meditation and the enlargement and relaxing of the mind to achieve qi cultivation. Sitting forgetting meditation involves the mental removal of the limbs and an existence with Transformation Thoroughfare.

Hinduism

There are various styles used in Hindu meditation taught in different schools. Yoga is commonly practiced initially to prepare and oneself for meditation and self-realization. . One yoga practice states there are eight limbs of aloneness: discipline, rules, postures, breath control, senses withdrawal, one-pointedness of mind, meditation and realization of self (Samadhi).

Moksha is the desired state of Hinduism, which can be thought of as similar to nirvana of Buddhism, being calm and concentrated with the self within

Islam

Islamic meditation, or Sufism, focuses on thinking that leads to knowledge and utilized methods of breathing control and the repetition of holy words or mantras. There are several similarities with Buddhist meditation, such as the concentration technique and focused introspection.

Meditation is believed to improve healing ability and enhance creativity, in addition to awakening the heart and mind and allowing inner growth and submission to God.

Baha’i Faith

Meditation and prayer both play a central role in the Baha’i faith to reflect upon the message from God. It is encouraged for followers of the faith to meditate with a prayerful demeanor to turn towards God and focus on the divine power.

Meditation is commonly used to reflect on the Word of God and deepen the understanding of his teachings. This is believed to maintain spiritual communion with God, increasing the transformative power that receptive prayer can facilitate.

However, the place of meditation in the religion is flexible as the founder of the religion, Baha’ullah, left the type and purpose of the practice up to the interpretation of the individuals.

Jainism

Meditation is central to the spiritual practice of Jainism and is thought to help attain enlightenment and the 24 Tirthankaras are all exist in meditative postures.

Jain meditation is thought to be the pathway to salvation and attainment of the three jewels: faith, knowledge and conduct. With these jewels, a state of complete freedom is gained.
Judaism

Meditation has a long history in Judaism, including from references from early religious texts, the Tanach. The purpose of the practice is thought to be to understand the Divine.

Various methods may be used, including mental visualization and hisbonenus to reflect on oneself and obtain greater understanding.
Sikhism

Meditation, known as simran, is needed to achieve spiritual goals alongside good deeds in Sikhism. The practice is used to feel God’s presence and become one with the divine light.

There are believed to be ten gateways to the body, nine of which are physical holes (e.g. nostrils, eyes, ears, mouth, urethra, anus) and the tenth is the Dasam Duaay, an invisible hole for spiritual uses that is needed for enlightenment.

Christianity

Meditation can be used as a form of prayer in the Christian faith, to connect with and reflect upon the word of God. It commonly consists of focusing on a series of thoughts, such as a passage from the Bible, and reflecting on its meaning.

It differs from other forms of meditation that originated in the East, as it does not utilize mantras that are repeated to help in the process of enlightenment. Instead, it is believed to deepen the personal relationship with God.



Atheism

Meditation causes an overload blows fuses and their brains shut down.








Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 8:44:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I'd think many, but probably not most.


most actually if not all to varying degrees and extents




Marini -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/26/2017 8:55:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I didnt say meditation 'is' a religion you dope. Meditation is part of every religious practiceI know of despite your inability to make the distinction. I bet you are an atheist with the bulk of your brain shut down right?

also part of non-religious practice you retard. We know you are a retard who has no brain to shut down RealRetardZero

I'd be interested to hear how many baptists, catholics, anglicans, non-sufi jihadists or kikes meditate on a regular basis. It isn't a thing for most members of the three main religions at all.

FR

In many circles the act of prayer is seen as very similar to meditation, as it can light up similar parts of the brain as seen during brain scans. There isn't much difference between the two, so for a religious person to say that there is more merit to praying to god over meditation is scientifically unfounded.


There are many of us, that are more spiritual than religious, and it is very easy to mesh them together.
Prayer and meditation can be closely related.
Take what you need and what works for you, and leave the rest.
Peace




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