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Musicmystery -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/28/2017 1:12:05 PM)
Reminds me of a school days joke: He has the mind of a genius. Someday maybe he'll have it installed.

Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 12:49:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Reminds me of a school days joke: He has the mind of a genius. Someday maybe he'll have it installed. Fully operational, fully remote. If you had 1/2 that intelligence you would have caught the whores lie. [8\|] "So you can't provide a link because what you're claiming she said isn't what she said."

Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 12:52:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods what you're claiming she said isn't what she said. Sure whore you dope, 'prove it'. (from my posted text) [sm=microwave.gif]

WickedsDesire -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 12:58:05 PM)
Anyway what is important to know is that Kirk took the Gorgon with: potassium nitrate, sulphur, and diamonds....do you know I will probably make a watch list for typing even that. I hope its a Russian nymph myself...well technically they need to be a double agent as no one is shagging the inbred race with the big teeth and mental forehead resembling an un-handsome square - why the orange delusion married and illegal immigrant you know - well, after he pleaded the 5th on 97 occasions on his second wife

Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 2:11:58 PM)
Here I thought it was your obsession with orange.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 2:24:10 PM)
sips his coffee are you a fantosh?

vincentML -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 6:10:28 PM)
ORIGINAL: Real0ne Yep its true! Seems atheists are missing out on one of lifes greatest treasures. https://books.google.com/books?id=U1BDCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=Andrew+Newberg+is+a+neuroscientist+at+Thomas+Jefferson+University+whose+field+of+study+is+neurotheology+religion&source=bl&ots=LLRQh8YxWz&sig=hyOgsrVebkWw8YzOpFNe-CkSkg0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtw7DP4JHVAhVK7yYKHSpACAUQ6AEIUjAI#v=onepage&q=Andrew%20Newberg&f=false [/quote] Hello, RO. I am a little bit confused by some of the things you presented here and I hope you will be able to unravel my concerns. When I clicked on the link above I was taken to a page on Google Books and presented with a preview of a book called The Faith Link written by Max Fleury MD. I don't understand what this has to do with Andrew Newberg, the researcher at the heart of your thread, although I do see Newberg's name in the link. Please explain the connection between Newberg and Dr. Fleury. I searched Newberg's biography and he has certainly been active in fMRI studies. He seems to have all the credentials of a neuroscientist in good standing. He has written six books according to the Wiki biography. I read that Newberg described the possible neurophysiological mechanisms associated with religious and spiritual experiences.[3] His initial research included the use of functional brain imaging to study Buddhist meditators[4] and Franciscan nuns in prayer.[5] This work was eventually published in three books, The Mystical Mind, Why God Won’t Go Away, and Why We Believe What We Believe. SKIP In the last listed book Why We Believe What We Believe, co-authored with Mark Robert Waldman (Executive MBA Faculty, Loyola Marymount University) describes the relationship between the brain and beliefs and also describes brain imaging studies of an atheist and individuals speaking in tongues (or glossolalia). "of an atheist" suggests to me only one atheist. Please explain how studies with only one atheist justifies your gloating OP headline. You also showed us this scan of the brain before and after(?) meditation and informed us it demonstrated that the brain religious folk used more of their brain than do atheists. [img]https://i.imgur.com/YSJeYrk.jpg[/img] Honestly, I don't see a major difference between the two images. Furthermore, these images only show the cerebral cortices apparently. Are the Limbic System, thalamus, cerebellum, and amygdala also demonstrated there? Please explain how these images support your conclusion that more of the brain is used in meditation. Also from the Wiki article there is some criticism of Newberg's conclusions (and yours I think) Newberg’s research has been criticized from two main perspectives.[non sequitur] From the religious perspective, concerns have been raised that the study of practices such as meditation does not necessarily extrapolate to the broader array of religious and spiritual phenomena.[3] However, Newberg tends to agree with this concern and has argued that future studies are needed to elucidate the more complex elements of religious and spiritual phenomena. Newberg has maintained that science and brain imaging studies are only tools to evaluate the brain during such experiences but do not necessarily negate such experiences. Newberg has argued that the integration of science and religion is critical for a better understanding of how human beings think and behave in a global context. How do these criticisms change your OP proposition? Thanks for helping me understand this complicated issue. [:)]

WickedsDesire -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 6:43:38 PM)
All his links are total pish - Just saying - you should probably know better Vincent Dalek Cunt? oh ffs took me ages to do this one [image]http://collarspace.com/attachments/041017/33D3499F-0F7C-45B6-A06B-C03B8701BDDA1.jpg[/image]

Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 10:40:37 PM)
Lovely the drunk has to get his childish 2cents in.

Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 10:43:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Yep its true! Seems atheists are missing out on one of lifes greatest treasures. https://books.google.com/books?id=U1BDCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=Andrew+Newberg+is+a+neuroscientist+at+Thomas+Jefferson+University+whose+field+of+study+is+neurotheology+religion&source=bl&ots=LLRQh8YxWz&sig=hyOgsrVebkWw8YzOpFNe-CkSkg0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtw7DP4JHVAhVK7yYKHSpACAUQ6AEIUjAI#v=onepage&q=Andrew%20Newberg&f=false Hello, RO. I am a little bit confused by some of the things you presented here and I hope you will be able to unravel my concerns. When I clicked on the link above I was taken to a page on Google Books and presented with a preview of a book called The Faith Link written by Max Fleury MD. I don't understand what this has to do with Andrew Newberg, the researcher at the heart of your thread, although I do see Newberg's name in the link. Please explain the connection between Newberg and Dr. Fleury. I searched Newberg's biography and he has certainly been active in fMRI studies. He seems to have all the credentials of a neuroscientist in good standing. He has written six books according to the Wiki biography. I read that Newberg described the possible neurophysiological mechanisms associated with religious and spiritual experiences.[3] His initial research included the use of functional brain imaging to study Buddhist meditators[4] and Franciscan nuns in prayer.[5] This work was eventually published in three books, The Mystical Mind, Why God Won’t Go Away, and Why We Believe What We Believe. SKIP In the last listed book Why We Believe What We Believe, co-authored with Mark Robert Waldman (Executive MBA Faculty, Loyola Marymount University) describes the relationship between the brain and beliefs and also describes brain imaging studies of an atheist and individuals speaking in tongues (or glossolalia). "of an atheist" suggests to me only one atheist. Please explain how studies with only one atheist justifies your gloating OP headline. You also showed us this scan of the brain before and after(?) meditation and informed us it demonstrated that the brain religious folk used more of their brain than do atheists. [img]https://i.imgur.com/YSJeYrk.jpg[/img] Honestly, I don't see a major difference between the two images. Furthermore, these images only show the cerebral cortices apparently. Are the Limbic System, thalamus, cerebellum, and amygdala also demonstrated there? Please explain how these images support your conclusion that more of the brain is used in meditation. Also from the Wiki article there is some criticism of Newberg's conclusions (and yours I think) Newberg’s research has been criticized from two main perspectives.[non sequitur] From the religious perspective, concerns have been raised that the study of practices such as meditation does not necessarily extrapolate to the broader array of religious and spiritual phenomena.[3] However, Newberg tends to agree with this concern and has argued that future studies are needed to elucidate the more complex elements of religious and spiritual phenomena. Newberg has maintained that science and brain imaging studies are only tools to evaluate the brain during such experiences but do not necessarily negate such experiences. Newberg has argued that the integration of science and religion is critical for a better understanding of how human beings think and behave in a global context. How do these criticisms change your OP proposition? Thanks for helping me understand this complicated issue. [:)] His noteothry credentials Lets startwith this, do you know what you are looking at? [img]http://www.mindspect.com/images/img/spect-description.jpg[/img] Want to stick with you see no difference? http://www.mindspect.com/spec%20scan.html

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 10:43:45 PM)
His graphics make as much sense as yours

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 10:49:27 PM)
FR Theist or atheist makes no difference to the divine. the divine doesn't give a shit about our adoration any more than it cares about the adoration of bacteria. The divine may not even be self-aware. I am God. You are God. My puppies are God, your pets are God. Th grass and trees are God. All that lives is God. We are all God and God is all of us. We are individually nothing but small parts of the godhead temporarily separated from it so it can learn, and when it is done learning from our separation we will be reunited with the godhead and so lose any individuality. This life is your only chance to be you. Live it the way you think you should.

Real0ne -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 10:49:32 PM)
the graphics I provided are done by phd's the graphics the drunk provided are created by a drunken child

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 10:52:55 PM)
quote: the graphics I provided are done by phd's So you say.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/29/2017 11:02:20 PM)
There is no you is there (prove otherwise liar(and you ankle tits))? So you fall face down in the beginning, drowning in your own puddle of diseased jobbies, and your are eager to lap the one called dizzymutt errant jobbies? Sips his coffee and looks on enthralled feel free to prodided more phd graphics

vincentML -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/30/2017 1:37:07 AM)
Yeah, that's fine and it makes my point that only the cerebral cortices were visible in your original images. I can see the mid-brain bits in this one. Unfortunately, it is not a scan from Newberg's work, and you dodged my questions. I thought you were an expert on brain imaging and could maybe help me understand your evidence. Guess you don't know what you are talking about, nor do you know the limitations of Newberg's work. Ahh, too bad.

blnymph -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/30/2017 3:53:41 AM)
There is an obvious confusion between brain activities and attempted mind-reading Since many neurons are permanently busy with involuntary processes from secretory glands to keeping control of muscular movement and a lot more nobody can determine with any certainty what is happening at a brain' surface, let alone deeper inside, at a peculiar moment - any of these pictures only show that something is happening, but not what is happening. Pseudo-science for simple minds. .´

WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/30/2017 5:18:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Sure whore you dope, 'prove it'. (from my posted text) Provide a context for your quoted text, and proof that the person you're attributing it to said what you're claiming she said. Links to where you've found it would be good. Whining and crying that she did too say that and being I'm a meanie poopie head for not accepting your word over that isn't.

Musicmystery -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/30/2017 5:34:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: the graphics I provided are done by phd's So you say. And if it were as simple as that, PhDs would never disagree, instead of disagreeing constantly.

WhoreMods -> RE: Religious People Use More of their Brain than Atheists! (7/30/2017 5:47:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: the graphics I provided are done by phd's So you say. And if it were as simple as that, PhDs would never disagree, instead of disagreeing constantly. I think the issue is more that we have only his word that anything he's cited is the work of the PhD he's attributing it to. Holocaust boy doesn't really have a good history for that, does he?

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