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I think god is a cartoonist.

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I haven't got time for this thread any more. I need to find books and websites that support all the things I don't believe in. What about all the things I've never even thought of not believing in, before? I mean, the religious beliefs of pygmy tribes living in depths of the Amazon, for instance? Or of beings on other planets? No more time for this thread or this forum. Nup.

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I haven't got time for this thread any more. I need to find books and websites that support all the things I don't believe in. What about all the things I've never even thought of not believing in, before? I mean, the religious beliefs of pygmy tribes living in depths of the Amazon, for instance? Or of beings on other planets? No more time for this thread or this forum. Nup.

I wouldn't worry too much if I was you Peon.

While atheists and non-believers are generally pretty blase about their non-belief in 'religion', the same cannot be said for their religious counterparts, who are expressing serious concern about the decline of religion in areas previously considered to be strongholds for religion. The Irish Times quoted the Catholic Archbishop of Dublin on the decline in religion in Ireland :
"New realities had to be faced, he [the Archbishop] repeated. Not least in Dublin “where the presence at Sunday Mass is some 5 per cent of the Catholic population and, in some cases, even below 2 per cent”. And where “on any particular Sunday about 18 per cent of the Catholic population” attends Mass.
It was not much different in the rest of Ireland where attendance may be “higher” but that Dublin’s was “certainly not an isolated situation”. Pointedly, he noted too how “statistics about Mass attendance most significantly do not examine the age of those attending.
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Most striking of all was the fact that those numbered in the “no religion” category were “highest in the age group 20-39, the group with children entering school life and the group naturally most active in the formation of political culture for the future”, he said.
“The age group 20-39 accounts for 28 per cent of the general population but 45 per cent of those with no religion fall into this age bracket,” he noted.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/archbishop-martin-proved-right-about-school-patronage-1.3150908

Remember that only a few decades ago, church attendance in Ireland was regularly reported at around 90%. These figures suggest that religion has been abandoned by many if not most of the younger generations of today's Irish people. Perhaps the image of a country that voted 2 to 1 to introduce gay marriage last year is a more accurate image of today's Ireland than the traditional image of an overwhelmingly devout Catholic nation.

These figures suggest that the Catholic Church in Ireland has every reason to be seriously concerned about its decline. The claims made in the OP, like so many religious beliefs, might turn out to be pure fantasy.

you gotta be shittin me, you cant tell the difference between a religion someone practices and a school? I know lots of catholics that dont go to church regulary and there are far more religions that worship God than just catholics, and worse you choose some lone bishop that does does not speak for the church running contrary to the rest, talk about miss the whole friggin universe with your post, thats frankly laughable!

If that the best you people can come up with peon has a lot to worry about

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I haven't got time for this thread any more. I need to find books and websites that support all the things I don't believe in. What about all the things I've never even thought of not believing in, before? I mean, the religious beliefs of pygmy tribes living in depths of the Amazon, for instance? Or of beings on other planets? No more time for this thread or this forum. Nup.

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of course its belief.

one group believes yes the other group believes no.

So, assuming you don't accept that the moon is made of cheese, that would make you a *believer* in a non-cheese constitution of the moon? Just checking.

more atheist foolishness.

You believe the moon is not made of cheese, you are a twu believer! LOL

Such imbecilic foolishness like I have never seen before!

What's foolish about it?

I'm not a believer in the idea of the moon being made out of cheese, because that makes no sense to me. In the same way, I'm not a believer in the Christian idea of God, because that makes no sense either.

Do you see? I went to no website to come to the above two conclusions. I did not read Dawkins. I had no need of Darwin or of Marx. I just got older ... and both ideas went 'pop' - and then they were gone.

You people are illiterate. I have the insane MM projecting and calling me insane because I exposed the atheist [ILL]ogic. Hell not even Dawkins will take on your peoples level of stupidity. He's not the dumb.

your conclusions demonstrate extreme lack of cognitive ability. Precisely what is the complaint about todays colleges.

Very simple, children who have not been state programmed get it correct but adults especially those claiming phds cant pull their heads out long enough to to save their asses.

What you need to do is prove your proposition. MM cant, he thinks reason and logic is insane, so take your best shot.

Using the moon is made of cheese.

P1 believes the moon is made of cheese.

P2 believes the moon is not made of cheese.
P3 disbelieves the moon is made of cheeze.
P4 is not a believer that the moon is made of cheeze.

I would add a 'no belief' condition but that would be insane, since its impossoble to take a position with no belief. (Though I have seen a few bottom of the gene pool types argue that believe it or not)

Your job is to explain make a clear distinction by laying out the precise difference between P2, P3, P4.