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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Its a lost cause trying to talk sense into you people.

This is about why male victims get less considered over female victims. This isn't about who the perpetrator is or why the victim became a victim.

It seems that you lot are trying to dodge and skirt around the issue of why males get less consideration compared to females. It doesn't matter why they are victims or who the perpetrator is. This is totally and completely irrelevant. Male victims suffer too, they feel pain too, they have feelings too. Male victims suffered no less than female victims in their horrible death. So why than should male suffering be considered less? Which gender the perpetrator is can't be an excuse. Why the perpetrator attacks is also not an excuse.

You people really have no reasonable argument.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Lets play tweaks game. But instead of playing with gender, lets play with race.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

1. Blacks are more likely to commit homicide.
2. Blacks are more likely to be victims from other blacks.

Therefore, when black people are murdered, we can use the argument that just because blacks are more likely to commit homicide, we should care less about black victims? When blacks are more likely the perpetrators for black victims, we should care less about black victims?

But wait, I would be racist to make this assertion. I wonder why tweak isn't sexist to make the exact same assertions but using gender instead of race?

Let's see if the lefties can wiggle themselves out of this mess.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

See how easy it is to crush the pathetic arguments that are against giving males equality? The people in this thread don't really have a valid point. They have no reasonable and logical explanations for their points. They just hope if they keep repeating the same crap without arguing a justification for it, it will all the sudden magically become valid.

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Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers.

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So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

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So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?"

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

So are the perpetrators somehow at fault for why feminists/leftists push for more consideration for female victims over male?

Opps that just ruined the argument.

So tell me how exaxtly are male perpetrators at fault for why others who they have nothing to do with push for females to be more considered over males???

Gotta larf

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

itsSIRtou

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Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers.

lolz

You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way?

You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion.

So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post.

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So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

Ya really gotta larf

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So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?"

Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads.

There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal.

Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens.

People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging.

So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread.

If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly.

But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this.

The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males.

So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males?

1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally
2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males

Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1.

If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

So are the perpetrators somehow at fault for why feminists/leftists push for more consideration for female victims over male?

Opps that just ruined the argument.

So tell me how exaxtly are male perpetrators at fault for why others who they have nothing to do with push for females to be more considered over males???

Gotta larf

no, the perpetrators are responsible for raping and killing.
You seem to think the perpetrators should get away with it, no investigation needed.
you seem scared of women being important enough to have their own investigations
You whinge about getting your feelings hurt and women this, lefties that,
Im not surprised you dont get the irony.
Its only PUBLIC (men and women) outcry that got this investigation started.

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

itsSIRtou

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Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers.

lolz

You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way?

You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion.

So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post.

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So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

Ya really gotta larf

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So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?"

Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads.

There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal.

Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens.

People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging.

So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread.

If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly.

But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this.

The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males.

So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males?

1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally
2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males

Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1.

If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period.

I notice u didn't answer any of MY questions to clarify ur position, and that sounds to Me like all u care about is ur own personal war with women. u avoiding & not answering those questions says it all more than ur aware of.
because all those questions address a fraction of the underlying issues to poverty....poverty begets violence in EVERY culture. And that's proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live.

Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves.

so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about.

if u so-call want actual equality, then u must start with ur own head, and u only bitchin about women don't cut it.

unless u go get out and get among PEOPLE who need ur actual help getting out of poverty, NOTHING and I mean ABSOLUTLY NOTHING will change

well, "really and truly" ur the one this clueless then..... there are MANY mens' organizations u could get off ur ass and help if men are the only ones u want to help.

BUTT NOOOO. u choose to sit on here and bitch envy like the girl I think u wish u were. because "thou dost (singularly) protest too much."

so unless ur willing to PITCH IN & help EVERYONES lives get better,

ur bitching about men's issues the way u do is nothing just pissing upwind in a hurricane.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

itsSIRtou

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Simple dumbfuck, but of course u'd be called racist for only singling out only one race out of the total picture of likely killers.

lolz

You're proving my point. You are the dumbfuck as you don't understand my point. To this part of the discussion, my exact point is that if it's racist for me to make that assertion about blacks, why than isn't it sexist to make that exact assertion against men (gender instead of race)? If you're doing it against blacks, you're showing hate against blacks, right? So how come it's all the sudden not "hate" when you treat men as a gender the same way?

You agreed with Tweak and backed her up. Now you are claiming its racist to do the exact same thing against a race instead of a gender. So it's okay to use your gender in that fashion but its not okay to use your race in that fashion.

So using Tweak's advice, which you are backing up and using against me, let's take a snippet out of her post.

quote:

So the starting point for any attempt to reduce the numbers of murders anywhere is to understand why males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

As black males are more likely to commit homicide compared to white males, I guess it would be valid to say that a starting point for any attempt to reduce the number of murders anywhere is to understand why BLACK males commit so many murders and other acts of extreme violence.

Ya really gotta larf

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So Tweak asks u, "Do you want to do something positive to improve the lives of many men? Or do you want to spend the rest of your life pointlessly whinging about feminists and women?"

Here is something many find difficult to understand to get around their little thoughtless heads.

There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal.

Most of us know that murder is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know rape is wrong, yet it still happens. Most of us know that stealing is wrong, yet it still happens.

People who know it's wrong to do bad to others will do it regardless if the victim is crying and screaming and begging.

So tell me exactly, what is the magic solution? If you think you know better than me and you know this magic solution, why aren't you fixing things as we speak? This applies to everyone who is trying to be condescending to me in this thread.

If you think I don't care because I'm not doing something about it, why aren't you doing something about it if you know this magic solution that I don't know? Really and truly.

But anyway, after all of this said, AGAIN, this is another diversion used to veer away from the focus on why male victims get less considered over female victims. Both genders suffer, both genders face death. People keep running away from talking about this.

The irony is fucking massive and hugely laughable when people in here keep telling me that I'm not interested in helping men when I am the one arguing to treat men equally while my opposition are arguing to treat females better than males.

So tell me, which one out of the two are more so veering towards consideration for males?

1. The people who argue that males should get treated equally
2. The people who argue that we should treat females better than males

Christ, even a 10 year old would guess number one within a second. You have to be a fucking retard to think people like Tweak and your self, who are number 2, are somehow more interested in helping men than myself who is number 1.

If you don't care about the empathy gap, you obviously don't care about men, period.

I notice u didn't answer any of MY questions to clarify ur position, and that sounds to Me like all u care about is ur own personal war with women. u avoiding & not answering those questions says it all more than ur aware of.
because all those questions address a fraction of the underlying issues to poverty....poverty begets violence in EVERY culture. And that's proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live.

Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves.

so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about.

if u so-call want actual equality, then u must start with ur own head, and u only bitchin about women don't cut it.

unless u go get out and get among PEOPLE who need ur actual help getting out of poverty, NOTHING and I mean ABSOLUTLY NOTHING will change

well, "really and truly" ur the one this clueless then..... there are MANY mens' organizations u could get off ur ass and help if men are the only ones u want to help.

BUTT NOOOO. u choose to sit on here and bitch envy like the girl I think u wish u were. because "thou dost (singularly) protest too much."

so unless ur willing to PITCH IN & help EVERYONES lives get better,

ur bitching about men's issues the way u do is nothing just pissing upwind in a hurricane.

Because your black issues is not the point of this thread. Go and make your own thread about how hard done by blacks are.

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ORIGINAL: ItsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Oh and you are bitching about things and not doing anything about it.

Funny how I am always the one and only who is obligated to do something when I complain while everyone else gets given a pass.
Gotta larf

I myself help low-income people get their cars fixed so that they can continue to work or in one case, have a place to live.

Notice I specifically said PEOPLE MEANING: single moms, single dads, senior citizens, Black, white, Hispanic, chartreuse - PEOPLE who needed help and had no automotive skills themselves.

so literally dickhead, u telling Me I'm not about equality is just ur ignorance what equally caring about people IS about.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
There is no solution, no answer, to stop men or people in general from committing homicide or any crime for that matter. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to kill. Yet there will always be plenty who will kill. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to rape. Yet there will always be plenty who will rape. We can sit here all day everyday and shout at everyone to tell them not to steal. Yet, there will always be plenty who will steal.