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The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 2:23:44 AM   
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They say the more stones you uncover, the more dirt you find ....

This appears to be the case as a series of ongoing investigations into Trump, his campaign and financial ties to Russia, son-in-law Jared Kushner, money laundering, Russian gangsters, sacked US prosecutors, investigations mysteriously blocked, dead (possibly murdered in prison) whistleblowers and more, are revealing potentially compromising links between this assortment of colourful characters.
Here's a starting point, the latest developments surrounding murky real estate deals between Kushner and some suspicious Russian characters (read: gangsters) and Russian funds allegedly looted from Russia's National Treasury:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/24/jared-kushner-new-york-russia-money-laundering

Here's the press release announcing the settlement of a money laundering probe with the accused agreeing to pay a US $5.9 million settlement without admitting guilt:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/acting-manhattan-us-attorney-announces-59-million-settlement-civil-money-laundering-and
And more details:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341695-democrats-want-to-know-why-doj-dismissed-money-laundering-case

Some more details from April (and already a little out of date):
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/trump-financial-ties-russia-money-laundering-banks-oligarchs-manafort/

And further links revealing or analysing this tale - which sounds like the plot for the next James Bond movie - will be appreciated.

Of course all of the above needs to be read against the other numerous ongoing investigations into ties between Trump, and his various minions and organisations and Russia, most notably the Mueller investigation, which is said to be widening its probe to look at Trump's financial dealings with Russian interests over the years ..

.... it all stinks to the high heavens. This is not going to end well.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 4:27:19 AM   
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for you and all the rest of the Russia obsessed loons:


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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:09:46 AM   
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LOL that was you right thru the hillary probed thread
its amusing to see you unable to do anything but post emojis


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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:24:47 AM   
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funny---Hillary actually broke laws but you cant tell the difference can you?

and ive made ~4700 posts---how many of them are emojis? problems with logic have you?

maybe you can alert your pal mnottertroll to come and add some "felchgobbles" too?

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:28:27 AM   
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LOL that was you right thru the hillary probed thread
its amusing to see you unable to do anything but post emojis



From another thread:


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so you can understand it muffin, nothing more.






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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:36:42 AM   
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quote:

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funny---Hillary actually broke laws but you cant tell the difference can you?

and ive made ~4700 posts---how many of them are emojis? problems with logic have you?

maybe you can alert your pal mnottertroll to come and add some "felchgobbles" too?

There is no proof of hillary breaking any laws. Nowhere. There is nutsucker toiletlicking, and you are tonguing it up, but no evidence, and no proof. You are doing a splendid job of felchgobbling your putinjizz dogshit44, there is no need to add to it.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:42:28 AM   
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right on cue!!

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:46:06 AM   
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you actually are always cued up to felchgobble your putinjizz, dogshit44 and drone on with your retarded, ineffectual, impotent, factless lies. I enjoy holding your toiletlicking and felchgobbling in derision, and pointing out your slobbering. It makes me laugh.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 5:54:36 AM   
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felllllllllllllllllllllllch gobble!

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:01:17 AM   
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Yet the noose tightens nonetheless.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:01:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

funny---Hillary actually broke laws but you cant tell the difference can you?

and ive made ~4700 posts---how many of them are emojis? problems with logic have you?

maybe you can alert your pal mnottertroll to come and add some "felchgobbles" too?

where are the laws broken, where are the charges, where is the investigation? where is the proof.
You spent most of your posts in the hillary probed thread, with links to nothing burgers, but insisted it was fact..
That you cant respond now with anything but emojis is hysterical.

Ron does what he wants, he always has, that you try to deflect to him is sad, because you cant discuss the topic, thank you for proving my point in such a bountiful way.
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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:03:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

They say the more stones you uncover, the more dirt you find ....

This appears to be the case as a series of ongoing investigations into Trump, his campaign and financial ties to Russia, son-in-law Jared Kushner, money laundering, Russian gangsters, sacked US prosecutors, investigations mysteriously blocked, dead (possibly murdered in prison) whistleblowers and more, are revealing potentially compromising links between this assortment of colourful characters.
Here's a starting point, the latest developments surrounding murky real estate deals between Kushner and some suspicious Russian characters (read: gangsters) and Russian funds allegedly looted from Russia's National Treasury:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/24/jared-kushner-new-york-russia-money-laundering

Here's the press release announcing the settlement of a money laundering probe with the accused agreeing to pay a US $5.9 million settlement without admitting guilt:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/acting-manhattan-us-attorney-announces-59-million-settlement-civil-money-laundering-and
And more details:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341695-democrats-want-to-know-why-doj-dismissed-money-laundering-case

Some more details from April (and already a little out of date):
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/trump-financial-ties-russia-money-laundering-banks-oligarchs-manafort/

And further links revealing or analysing this tale - which sounds like the plot for the next James Bond movie - will be appreciated.

Of course all of the above needs to be read against the other numerous ongoing investigations into ties between Trump, and his various minions and organisations and Russia, most notably the Mueller investigation, which is said to be widening its probe to look at Trump's financial dealings with Russian interests over the years ..

.... it all stinks to the high heavens. This is not going to end well.


Yes, there are investigations.

It is a coup attempt.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:04:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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LOL that was you right thru the hillary probed thread
its amusing to see you unable to do anything but post emojis



From another thread:


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so you can understand it muffin, nothing more.






it is typical of you to take it out of context
shrugs, little things n all that


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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:08:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LOL that was you right thru the hillary probed thread
its amusing to see you unable to do anything but post emojis



From another thread:


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so you can understand it muffin, nothing more.






it is typical of you to take it out of context
shrugs, little things n all that



Context: You were cackling about another poster using emojis

Context.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:12:43 AM   
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Jul. 24, 2017 7:47 AM ET

Jared Kushner says he has 'nothing to hide' on Russia



WASHINGTON (AP) — (AP) — Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner is denying that President Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Russia, saying in a statement ahead of congressional interviews that he has "nothing to hide."

The 11-page statement provided to The Associated Press by a representative Monday details four contacts with Russians during Trump's campaign and transition. Kushner plans to deliver the statement during closed-door meetings with investigators on Senate and House committees this week.

"I did not collude, nor know of anyone else in the campaign who colluded, with any foreign government," Kushner said in the statement in which he also insists none of the contacts was improper. He also denies that Russians finance any of his business in the private sector.

In speaking to Congress, Kushner — as both the president's son-in-law and a trusted senior adviser during the campaign and inside the White House — becomes the first member of the president's inner circle to face questions from government officials as they probe Russian meddling in the 2016 election and possible links to the Trump campaign.

He is to meet with staff on the Senate intelligence committee Monday and lawmakers on the House intelligence committee Tuesday.

Kushner's appearance has been highly anticipated, in part because of a series of headlines in recent months about his interactions with Russians and because the reticent Kushner had until Monday not personally responded to questions about an incomplete security clearance form and his conversations with foreigners.

"I am not a person who has sought the spotlight," he said in his statement.

In it, he detailed a June 2016 meeting with a Russian-American lawyer and says it was such a "waste of time" that he asked his assistant to call him out of the gathering.

Emails released this month show that the president's son, Donald Trump Jr., accepted the meeting at Trump Tower with the idea that he would receive damaging information about Hillary Clinton. But Kushner says he hadn't seen those emails until recently shown them by his lawyers.

Kushner said in his statement that Trump Jr. invited him to the meeting. He says he arrived late and when he heard the lawyer discussing the issue of adoptions, he texted his assistant to call him out.

"No part of the meeting I attended included anything about the campaign, there was no follow up to the meeting that I am aware of, I do not recall how many people were there (or their names), and I have no knowledge of any documents being offered or accepted," Kushner's statement says.

Kushner also denies reports he discussed setting up a secret back-channel with the Russian ambassador to the U.S.

He said he did speak with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, in December at Trump Tower. But he says that conversation was about policy in Syria.

Kushner says that when Kislyak asked if there was a secure line for him to provide information on Syria from what Kislyak called his "generals," Kushner asked if there was an existing communications channel at the embassy that could be used. Kushner says he never proposed an ongoing secret form of communication.

He also says he met with a Russian banker, Sergey Gorkov, at the request of Kislyak. But he says no specific policies were discussed.

Kushner also explained that his application form for a security clearance form was submitted prematurely due to a miscommunication with his assistant, who had erroneously believed the document was complete.

He said he mistakenly omitted all of his foreign contacts, not just his meetings with Russians, and has worked in the last six months with the FBI to correct the record.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 6:17:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

funny---Hillary actually broke laws but you cant tell the difference can you?

and ive made ~4700 posts---how many of them are emojis? problems with logic have you?

maybe you can alert your pal mnottertroll to come and add some "felchgobbles" too?

There is no proof of hillary breaking any laws. Nowhere. There is nutsucker toiletlicking, and you are tonguing it up, but no evidence, and no proof. You are doing a splendid job of felchgobbling your putinjizz dogshit44, there is no need to add to it.


you are like shooting fish in a barrel vile critter parts:

quote:

Here’s what Comey said:

"…there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information…"

18 USC §793. This statute explicitly states that whoever, “entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document…through gross negligence permits the same to removed from its proper place of custody…or having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody….shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.” Comey called her “extremely careless.” That was highly charitable. But even by that standard, Hillary was grossly negligent with classified material. Comey says Hillary had no intent to transmit information to foreign powers. But that’s not what the statute requires.

18 USC §1924. This statute states that any employee of the United States who “knowingly removes [classified] documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.” Hillary set up a private server explicitly to do this.

18 USC §798. This statute states that anyone who “uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States…any classified information…shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.” Hillary transmitted classified information in a manner that harmed the United States; Comey says she may have been hacked.

18 USC §2071. This statute says that anyone who has custody of classified material and “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years.” Clearly, Hillary meant to remove classified materials from government control.

Yes, Hillary broke the law.


http://www.dailywire.com/news/7177/fbi-yes-queen-hillary-broke-law-no-she-wont-be-ben-shapiro

if you want to hang your hat on the difference between "proof" and "evidence"---fair enough, but I suspect you weren't be smart enough to make that distinction. you lack the capability.

however, since you also used the word "evidence" and denied there was any, im going to have to go with what the fbi said over what you think. you know, because they actually did the investigation and youre a malevolent intellectual incompetent.

maybe some "felchgobbles" and "putinjizz" will make all that go away??

when all you loons have that depth of evidence on trump, bring it, otherwise it seems to be quite a lot of "unnamed sources" leaking to liberal journalists that "someone had a meeting" and trying to fill in dots to connect A to Z.

oh noooooooooo!

the heavy wishful thinking makes you all look even more like fools



and lucy, just for you---see if you can look beyond the funny emojis here to, my goodness, thoughts being conveyed with words too!


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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 7:22:57 AM   
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Trump supporters 6 months ago:
“There were no meetings with any Russians.”
Trump supporters 3 months ago:
“They just forgot to report the meetings with Russians.”
Trump supporters last week:
"There's no evidence of collusion with Russia!!"
Trump supporters 3 days ago:
"Who cares if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?"
Trump supporters yesterday:
“It’s Obama’s fault for not stopping the meetings with Russians.”
Trump’s lawyer Jay Sekulow today:
“It’s the Secret Service’s fault for not stopping the meeting with Russians.”
Trump supporters tomorrow:
“Трамп собирается сделать Россию великой снова!”
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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 7:40:26 AM   
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Jul. 24, 2017 7:47 AM ET

Jared Kushner says he has 'nothing to hide' on Russia

WASHINGTON (AP) — (AP) — Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner is denying that President Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Russia, saying in a statement ahead of congressional interviews that he has "nothing to hide."
[snip]

"I did not collude, nor know of anyone else in the campaign who colluded, with any foreign government," Kushner said in the statement in which he also insists none of the contacts was improper. He also denies that Russians finance any of his business in the private sector.


Kushner is denying that any Russians "finance" his private sector business. However, it has been clearly established that he does have business dealings with some rather tainted Russians in his private sector business. The Guardian reports:

"Among the overlapping connections is the 2015 deal in which Kushner paid $295m to acquire several floors of the old New York Times building at 43rd street in Manhattan from the US branch of Leviev’s company, Africa Israel Investments (AFI), and its partner Five Mile Capital. The sale has been identified as of possible interest to the Mueller investigation as Kushner later went on to borrow $285m in refinancing from Deutsche Bank, the German financial house that itself has been embroiled in Russian money laundering scandals and whose loans to Trump are coming under intensifying scrutiny.
Court documents and company records show that AFI was cited in the Prevezon case as a business partner of the defendants. In 2008, Prevezon entered a partnership with AFI in which Prevezon bought for €3m, a 30% stake in four AFI subsidiaries in the Netherlands. Five years later, AFI tried to return the money to the Russian-owned company, but it was intercepted and frozen by Dutch authorities at the request of the US government as part of the Prevezon money-laundering investigation.
In Manhattan, Leviev’s firm also sold condominiums to Prevezon Holdings from one of its landmark developments at 20 Pine Street, just a few blocks from Wall Street.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/24/jared-kushner-new-york-russia-money-laundering


So there's no doubt that Kushner has had business dealings with Russians, and some rather suspicious Russians at that. The one deal identified above is worth just under US $300 million. It may be the case that Kushner is simply being very careful (and clever) with the language and wording he uses. If this is the case, then he is setting an example that his boss would do very well to emulate.

One thing that emerges from the above is that Kushner is still not telling 'the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth'. It would only have helped his case if he had stated clearly that Russians were among the people who he had traded in real estate. But for some reason, he chose not to.

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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 7:48:01 AM   
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funny---Hillary actually broke laws but you cant tell the difference can you?

and ive made ~4700 posts---how many of them are emojis? problems with logic have you?

maybe you can alert your pal mnottertroll to come and add some "felchgobbles" too?

There is no proof of hillary breaking any laws. Nowhere. There is nutsucker toiletlicking, and you are tonguing it up, but no evidence, and no proof. You are doing a splendid job of felchgobbling your putinjizz dogshit44, there is no need to add to it.


you are like shooting fish in a barrel vile critter parts:

quote:

Here’s what Comey said:

"…there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information…"

18 USC §793. This statute explicitly states that whoever, “entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document…through gross negligence permits the same to removed from its proper place of custody…or having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody….shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.” Comey called her “extremely careless.” That was highly charitable. But even by that standard, Hillary was grossly negligent with classified material. Comey says Hillary had no intent to transmit information to foreign powers. But that’s not what the statute requires.

18 USC §1924. This statute states that any employee of the United States who “knowingly removes [classified] documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.” Hillary set up a private server explicitly to do this.

18 USC §798. This statute states that anyone who “uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States…any classified information…shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.” Hillary transmitted classified information in a manner that harmed the United States; Comey says she may have been hacked.

18 USC §2071. This statute says that anyone who has custody of classified material and “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years.” Clearly, Hillary meant to remove classified materials from government control.

Yes, Hillary broke the law.


http://www.dailywire.com/news/7177/fbi-yes-queen-hillary-broke-law-no-she-wont-be-ben-shapiro

if you want to hang your hat on the difference between "proof" and "evidence"---fair enough, but I suspect you weren't be smart enough to make that distinction. you lack the capability.

however, since you also used the word "evidence" and denied there was any, im going to have to go with what the fbi said over what you think. you know, because they actually did the investigation and youre a malevolent intellectual incompetent.

maybe some "felchgobbles" and "putinjizz" will make all that go away??

when all you loons have that depth of evidence on trump, bring it, otherwise it seems to be quite a lot of "unnamed sources" leaking to liberal journalists that "someone had a meeting" and trying to fill in dots to connect A to Z.

oh noooooooooo!

the heavy wishful thinking makes you all look even more like fools



and lucy, just for you---see if you can look beyond the funny emojis here to, my goodness, thoughts being conveyed with words too!


you are like like shooting toiletlickers felchgobbling putinjizz dogshit44. potential; its a word, look it up.

what he said in july was reason for investigation, turns out there wasnt any. see what you missed, while you were tonguing Il Douchovitch to get that putinjizz out of his ass:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/06/politics/comey-tells-congress-fbi-has-not-changed-conclusions/index.html

the 4 usc 18 statutes you quoted have what to do with what? she certainly is not in violation of those, in any way, shape or form.

once again, dogshit44, you are retarded, ineffectual, impotent, and felchgobble putinjizz, you are very worthy of derision, go over in the corner by your dish and lay down, shitbreathing retard.



You can see them nutsuckers felchgobbling and shitting their pants from Russia.

Tongue that putijizz, nutsucker snowflake.

Well, a nutsucker is president, he appointed a nutsucker Assistant AG, who appointed a nutsucker Special Counsel. Seems like nutsuckers should look to their own house here, its not democrats appointing these people. Nutsuckers investigating nutsuckers, because as nutsuckers they know they are goons and thugs and illegal in their actions, as they felchgobble their putinjizz and tongue mother Russai. (same thing under Tricky Dicky, BTW)

Nixon said it was a witch hunt too. Right up until he was caught.
Nobody will be busted by the ketchup board.



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RE: The Russian noose tightens .... - 7/24/2017 7:53:53 AM   
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Trump supporters 6 months ago:
“There were no meetings with any Russians.”
Trump supporters 3 months ago:
“They just forgot to report the meetings with Russians.”
Trump supporters last week:
"There's no evidence of collusion with Russia!!"
Trump supporters 3 days ago:
"Who cares if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?"
Trump supporters yesterday:
“It’s Obama’s fault for not stopping the meetings with Russians.”
Trump’s lawyer Jay Sekulow today:
“It’s the Secret Service’s fault for not stopping the meeting with Russians.”
Trump supporters tomorrow:
“Трамп собирается сделать Россию великой снова!”
(Stolen from a comment made on News and Guts)


All lies

From the beginning it was pointed out that meetings are legal, even if they do include people from other countries - and that
'colluding' in and of itself isn't a crime, it is a political term

Obama colluded with the Russians

Hillary colluded with the Russians

Ted Kennedy colluded with the SOVIETS to throw a presidential election, and leftists never said a word about any of it

What we have here is nothing. Nothing more than a coup attempt because leftists hate free and fair elections, when they don't go their way


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