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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Despite the movement of manufacturing overseas, New York remains strong in certain categories of manufacturing, especially apparel. Computer and electronic products has been one of the stronger parts of the manufacturing industry in the state, with wages for these jobs averaging significantly higher than the state average. Software engineering is a particularly bright spot.

NYS is also strong in:

1. Financial Services

No surprise there. New York City's huge financial center makes financial services the largest industry in New York State when ranked by total payroll. High paying jobs in banking, stock trading and analysis dominate this sector.

In New York City, financial services represents 15 percent of the economy, second only to real estate, according to a report by the city government on sustaining New York's financial services leadership.

2. Health Care

The largest industry by employee count is the "Health Care and Social Assistance" industry, which includes the state's large hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and services for the elderly. According to the New York Department of Labor, demographic changes in the state drove significant job growth.

3. Professional, Scientific and Technical Services

Where there are bankers and traders (and Wall Street of course), lawyers and accountants are sure to follow. These business-to-business companies, which also include tax and payroll services, architecture and advertising firms, have grown faster than the overall average in the state as the economy rebounded and other companies were able to use their services again.

4. Retail Trade and Food Service

The business-to-consumer retail industry in New York is dominated by food and beverage. Restaurants employ almost 580,000 people in the state, from the mundane fast food to the highest-end gourmet eateries. Retail overall adds $230 billion to the state economy, according to the Retail Council of New York State. New York's retailers employ more than 873,000 workers in more than 73,000 establishments, the council reports.

5. NYS also has huge dairy and tourism industries, and large educational services industries.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Why the fuck would ANYONE want to build manufacturing complexes in NY? At some point the states have to step up and be attractive to businesses. Only the truly stupid would start a business in NY, Ca, or Il.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

President Donald Trump says Upstate New York residents should leave the Empire State to find jobs elsewhere.

The Chicago Tribune reports electronics manufacturer Foxconn is expected to announce Wednesday that a new factory will be built in Wisconsin. Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos says as many as 10,000 new jobs will be created by the plant, which will make flat-screen displays in House Speaker Paul Ryan's congressional district.

Trump teased the announcement as a win for his campaign promise to bring back manufacturing jobs in the U.S. during an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. He specifically called out "upper New York state," encouraging residents to leave their homes behind for places like Wisconsin, a key state in Trump's election victory.

"You're going to need people to work in these massive plants," Trump told the newspaper. "I'm going to start explaining to people: When you have an area that just isn't working like upper New York state, where people are getting very badly hurt, and then you'll have another area 500 miles away where you can't get people, I'm going to explain, you can leave. It's OK. Don't worry about your house."

Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente Jr. responded on Twitter Wednesday, saying he was "Disappointed in @realDonaldTrump a president from New York bashing Upstate New York. Sad. I had hoped for better."

In the same WSJ interview, Trump claimed Apple CEO Tim Cook promised to build three "big, big, big" new factories in the U.S. The tech giant has not commented, but Apple closed its last American factory in 2004 and doesn't build manufacturing plants anymore; the company uses several U.S. companies to manufacture hardware parts, while iPhones are assembled in China.

It's unclear whether Trump meant factories built by Apple suppliers, like Foxconn.

According to the Times-Union, New York state may have been trying to win the project for a state-owned site in Utica. A spokesman for Gov. Andrew Cuomo's economic development czar, Howard Zemsky, did not respond to the newspaper's request for comment.

It's unclear whether other Apple suppliers may be considering Utica or other sites for factories in the Empire State.

Cook previously said in May that Apple would invest $1 billion into a fund to promote advanced manufacturing in the United States. Corning Inc., which makes Gorilla Glass for iPhone and iPad screens, was the first company to receive funding with $200 million.

Corning, based in Western New York, said last week it would "immediately" invest $500 million and create 1,000 new jobs in the U.S. related to medical devices -- not smartphones or tablets.

Trump campaigned on keeping jobs from heading to Mexico and other countries, including promising to save as many as 1,400 jobs at Carrier Corp. through tax incentives. Carrier, formerly headquartered in Syracuse, announced 632 layoffs in May at plants in Indianapolis and Huntington, Indiana.

The president previously called Upstate New York a "ghost town" during a 2016 campaign rally while talking about his opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal, blaming the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), signed by President Bill Clinton, for costing American jobs at places like Carrier. During a presidential debate with Hillary Clinton, he also called the region a "disaster" and blamed the former U.S. Senator and Secretary of State for "failing" to "bring back jobs to upstate New York."

Trump, who repeatedly boasted about his popularity in Upstate New York, easily won the region by more than 100,000 votes in November's election -- winning all but a handful of counties. However, a Siena College poll in May found his approval rating had dropped and was viewed favorably by only 33 percent of Upstate voters, with 63 percent holding an unfavorable view of the president.

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/2017/07/trump_leave_upstate_ny_jobs.html#incart_river_index

FYI, I run a 6-figure business in rural upstate NY doing business in the US, Canada, St. Martens, the UK, France, Germany, UAE, Turkey, Australia, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Japan.

We're not exactly dying here.

Buffalo has beautifully redone the waterfront and is growing. Syracuse has regrown entire neighborhoods. Albany and Ithaca are rapidly expanding.

For decades, Upstate New York lost population, true. Many young people left, which isn’t unusual, but few moved in. And that hurt. This multi-decade net loss of young population robbed us of skills, entrepreneurs, consumers and people who, you know, reproduce. Without population growth, it's harder to achieve economic growth.

But Upstate’s young population is now rising. And by every measure – jobs, wages, housing, GDP, investment, unemployment, population, and so on – Upstate New York is doing remarkably well relative to how it was doing.

The Upstate economy is adding jobs, including 80 consecutive months with private sector growth – the longest on record since 1990; and from 2011 to present, that job growth clocked in at nearly 6 percent, compared with a 3 percent decrease from 2001 – 2011. Plus, nearly 40 percent of Upstate’s private sector jobs in 2016 were well-paying. Today, instead of disparate development strategies we have robust regional plans driving and achieving sustainable economic growth.

Fuck off Trump.

All he can do is take credit for things he didn't do, and walk away from things that he can't take credit for.

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

President Donald Trump says Upstate New York residents should leave the Empire State to find jobs elsewhere.

The Chicago Tribune reports electronics manufacturer Foxconn is expected to announce Wednesday that a new factory will be built in Wisconsin. Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos says as many as 10,000 new jobs will be created by the plant, which will make flat-screen displays in House Speaker Paul Ryan's congressional district.

Trump teased the announcement as a win for his campaign promise to bring back manufacturing jobs in the U.S. during an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday. He specifically called out "upper New York state," encouraging residents to leave their homes behind for places like Wisconsin, a key state in Trump's election victory.

"You're going to need people to work in these massive plants," Trump told the newspaper. "I'm going to start explaining to people: When you have an area that just isn't working like upper New York state, where people are getting very badly hurt, and then you'll have another area 500 miles away where you can't get people, I'm going to explain, you can leave. It's OK. Don't worry about your house."

Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente Jr. responded on Twitter Wednesday, saying he was "Disappointed in @realDonaldTrump a president from New York bashing Upstate New York. Sad. I had hoped for better."

In the same WSJ interview, Trump claimed Apple CEO Tim Cook promised to build three "big, big, big" new factories in the U.S. The tech giant has not commented, but Apple closed its last American factory in 2004 and doesn't build manufacturing plants anymore; the company uses several U.S. companies to manufacture hardware parts, while iPhones are assembled in China.

It's unclear whether Trump meant factories built by Apple suppliers, like Foxconn.

According to the Times-Union, New York state may have been trying to win the project for a state-owned site in Utica. A spokesman for Gov. Andrew Cuomo's economic development czar, Howard Zemsky, did not respond to the newspaper's request for comment.

It's unclear whether other Apple suppliers may be considering Utica or other sites for factories in the Empire State.

Cook previously said in May that Apple would invest $1 billion into a fund to promote advanced manufacturing in the United States. Corning Inc., which makes Gorilla Glass for iPhone and iPad screens, was the first company to receive funding with $200 million.

Corning, based in Western New York, said last week it would "immediately" invest $500 million and create 1,000 new jobs in the U.S. related to medical devices -- not smartphones or tablets.

Trump campaigned on keeping jobs from heading to Mexico and other countries, including promising to save as many as 1,400 jobs at Carrier Corp. through tax incentives. Carrier, formerly headquartered in Syracuse, announced 632 layoffs in May at plants in Indianapolis and Huntington, Indiana.

The president previously called Upstate New York a "ghost town" during a 2016 campaign rally while talking about his opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal, blaming the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), signed by President Bill Clinton, for costing American jobs at places like Carrier. During a presidential debate with Hillary Clinton, he also called the region a "disaster" and blamed the former U.S. Senator and Secretary of State for "failing" to "bring back jobs to upstate New York."

Trump, who repeatedly boasted about his popularity in Upstate New York, easily won the region by more than 100,000 votes in November's election -- winning all but a handful of counties. However, a Siena College poll in May found his approval rating had dropped and was viewed favorably by only 33 percent of Upstate voters, with 63 percent holding an unfavorable view of the president.

http://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/2017/07/trump_leave_upstate_ny_jobs.html#incart_river_index

FYI, I run a 6-figure business in rural upstate NY doing business in the US, Canada, St. Martens, the UK, France, Germany, UAE, Turkey, Australia, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Japan.

We're not exactly dying here.

Buffalo has beautifully redone the waterfront and is growing. Syracuse has regrown entire neighborhoods. Albany and Ithaca are rapidly expanding.

For decades, Upstate New York lost population, true. Many young people left, which isn’t unusual, but few moved in. And that hurt. This multi-decade net loss of young population robbed us of skills, entrepreneurs, consumers and people who, you know, reproduce. Without population growth, it's harder to achieve economic growth.

But Upstate’s young population is now rising. And by every measure – jobs, wages, housing, GDP, investment, unemployment, population, and so on – Upstate New York is doing remarkably well relative to how it was doing.

The Upstate economy is adding jobs, including 80 consecutive months with private sector growth – the longest on record since 1990; and from 2011 to present, that job growth clocked in at nearly 6 percent, compared with a 3 percent decrease from 2001 – 2011. Plus, nearly 40 percent of Upstate’s private sector jobs in 2016 were well-paying. Today, instead of disparate development strategies we have robust regional plans driving and achieving sustainable economic growth.

Fuck off Trump.

All he can do is take credit for things he didn't do, and walk away from things that he can't take credit for.

I didn't read the article (and I certainly don't praise Trump for his less than artful use of his media) but...you have to be (somewhat) fair as to anyone's comments about upstate, and costs.

If you own a 2 bedroom townhouse in Watervliet (directly across the river from Troy)....cost...$135,000.00 in reasonable condition...needs some work....the annual taxes on that are over $4,500.00.

If you opted to add a bathroom....that's (annually) a new tax of $700.00.....because they assume you'll be renting out the upstairs as a new unit (now...$5,200.00 annually).

Then there's a rental tax. (Depends on the size).

My place in the Seattle market? Well over $1,000.000.00 in value and...my taxes....$6,700.00 last year (and on my property...5 acres....I have 3 substantial sized rental units...I live in one...the Watervliet place....1/4 acre).

NY is extremely expensive....as compared to....elsewhere.

(Not sure that's what Trump was using as comparison but...upstate is in fact....quite expensive...without debate...more so than most regional locales....indeed...more so than most...in fact).

Now...as to cost of doing business....as in...a business person....I can attest that doing work in Manhattan....costs me 4 times for labor what it costs me in Seattle.

Is that a problem? Not so long as the folks in Manhattan don't mind paying me a 300% premium to work there but....in fact...it is far more expensive for me to produce my product there....than in my state / city.

(By the way....I looooove Buffalo).

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Trump manufactures all his products -- ALL of them -- overseas.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So...a dissatisfied work force.

Spitzer's call girl was making four grand a night -- maybe she should leave Trump and strike out on her own.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

When has he cared about PR?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Trump manufactures all his products -- ALL of them -- overseas.