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Patriarchy is the name given to the system or force that ensures males occupy, and excludes females from occupying the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions in just about every human society or field of endeavour. It is an irrefutable fact that almost all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions in human societies are occupied by males, even though this is changing slowly in some places.
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You didn't give me an irrefutable fact against my stance at all. All you rambled on about was that males hold most of the powerful positions.
The irrefutable fact I laid out for you is that patriarchy is based on the fact that almost all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions are occupied by males, and that females are almost always excluded from them. This is an empirical fact.
If you wish to challenge this claim, them please do so supplying evidence to support your position. Evidence in this case would be details of societies where males are either excluded from power or don't hold the majority of the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions, or societies where females occupy the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions. No dissembling, no attempts to change the goalposts, no evasions thanks - just evidence to support your opposition to my claim.
There is about 200 countries in the world. Can you name one or more where females hold the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions? Or where males are systematically excluded from the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions? We both know that there is no such country in the world at the moment and never has been in recorded history. However if you know of an exception, or better still, exceptions to this rule, I'd love to hear about it/them ...
If you are either unable or unwilling to challenge this empirical fact, then you have no alternative but to agree that patriarchy theory is based on an empirical fact. Looking forward to your response.
Again, you're skirting around the question. The question is, how is patriarchy to blame for male disposability?
Answering with "all the most powerful and/or most prestigious positions are occupied by males" isn't adressing the actual question. You're just simply pointing out that most of these positions are filled by males without actually showing evidence that patriarchty is somehow at fault for male disposability.
If you were intellectually honest or not stupid, you would aknowledge that human survival has nothing to do with patriarchy. Females have reproductive power and this has created the mindset that society take care of the females more so than males and protect them.
Male anatomy of being physically stronger and emotionally stronger also plays part of males being in the firing line to protect women.
Women in general, even female leaders, when it comes to doing the dangerous and dirty work, who do they mostly expect to be on the line? Male or female? Is patriarchy making women think this way? I thought once everyone reaches adulthood, accountability and responsibility is on you of what you think and do. Not some imaginary authoritative power like patriarchy making you do it. I would expect a kid to get away with such but not a grown adult woman.
As to the rest of what you said, my previous post crumbles your stance on it being a patriarchy because most elite positions are held by males. If females aren't blocked from such positions, it's fallacious to call it a patriarchy.
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