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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 3:56:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Person who supported Hillary but now claims to be Republican


Sure, he bought and paid for her and kept her in his pocket

What has he done for her lately though

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 3:57:45 PM   
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I'm the Libertarian.


I don't read enough of your posts to disagree, but what little I have read don't strike me that way. I don't feel any social/political philosophical camaraderie with you.

exactly how are you a libertarian?

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:00:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I'm the Libertarian.


I don't read enough of your posts to disagree, but what little I have read don't strike me that way. I don't feel any social/political philosophical camaraderie with you.

exactly how are you a libertarian?



I just laugh at that insane claim

He's a fucking raving lunatic

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:02:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I'm the Libertarian.


I don't read enough of your posts to disagree, but what little I have read don't strike me that way. I don't feel any social/political philosophical camaraderie with you.

exactly how are you a libertarian?


It's not a matter of "feeling."

There's a Libertarian platform. People in agreement with it register as party members and are by definition "Libertarians."

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:04:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I'm the Libertarian.


I don't read enough of your posts to disagree, but what little I have read don't strike me that way. I don't feel any social/political philosophical camaraderie with you.

exactly how are you a libertarian?


Don't like guns, don't buy one
Don't like pot, don't smoke it
Don't ask for Govt handouts
Don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person
etc, etc, etc.
Freedom of CHOICE
Autonomy
Voluntary association
Self ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:05:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Person who supported Hillary but now claims to be Republican


Sure, he bought and paid for her and kept her in his pocket



Noone keeps that unholy power hungry bitch in his pocket. You talk about others being insane.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:06:31 PM   
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that is your bad breath blowing back in your face, you are the one making up definitions.

If he can't even define RINO, he doesn't know who is and who isn't.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:10:38 PM   
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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:24:56 PM   
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any chance youd be willing to link to a handful of your posts in which you've advocated positions consistent with libertarianism?



Am I not pro choice?
Am I not pro gun ownership?
Am I not anti Union?
Am I not for the legalization of pot even though I don't partake?

you've been known to dig back through my posting history for over a year to try to prove a point. I'd think you are QUITE familiar with it by now.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:27:14 PM   
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any chance youd be willing to link to a handful of your posts in which you've advocated positions consistent with libertarianism?



ffs.

Are you going to be whining about LINOs now?

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:39:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		setting aside for a moment that "pro-choice" is not necessarily a hallmark of libertarianism, I don't know that you are any of those things; why do you suppose I asked you to link to something?

further, I don't go "through" posting histories--I recollect appropriate key words and find the particular post in question. there's no needle in a haystack going on with that, which is essentially what youre suggesting.





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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 4:59:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh wait---this is fun. I just came across a post of yours I hadn't seen earlier when you responded to a post of mine where i said "I was a conservative leaning libertarian" by saying:

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You wouldn't know a Libertarian if one bit you on the ass.


smug pompous ass

and your whole premise, as highlighted above, (apparently since you didn't actually articulate anything) was that since im "pro-life" apparently im not libertarian, because you know, that takes away the "choice" of the mother to kill her baby.

because of course the baby has no right to liberty. %(*@&%& idiot.

Libertarians for Life - Official Site

Libertarian and Pro-Life Too

Libertarians for Life

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Opposition to legal abortion[edit]

The anti-abortion libertarian group Libertarians for Life argues that humans in the zygotic, embryonic, and fetal stages of development have the same rights as humans in the neonatal stage and beyond. Doris Gordon of the group notes that the principles of both the U.S. Libertarian Party and Objectivist ethics require some obligation to children and counter with an appeal to the non-aggression principle:

Non-aggression is an ongoing obligation: it is never optional for anyone, even pregnant women. If the non-aggression obligation did not apply, then earning money versus stealing it and consensual sex versus rape would be morally indifferent behaviors. The obligation not to aggress is pre-political and pre-legal. It does not arise out of contract, agreement, or the law; rather, such devices presuppose this obligation. The obligation would exist even in a state of nature. This is because the obligation comes with our human nature, and we acquire this nature at conception.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion

also, in the "libertarian" key word search, I found about 5ish years ago where you Nolan survey identified yourself as a libertarian leaning centrist.


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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:06:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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any chance youd be willing to link to a handful of your posts in which you've advocated positions consistent with libertarianism?



ffs.

Are you going to be whining about LINOs now?

Oh for fucks sake.

PROVE YOURSELF TO THE ONE TRUE ARBITER OF LIBERTARIANISM OR BE CAST OUT!!

What a douche.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:12:46 PM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		And while I meant it as a joke, I see from his posts after that yes, indeed, he IS going to be whining about LINOs.

Interesting thing is, I don't see bounty as a Libertarian from his posts either: he's a fingers-in-ears right-wing conservative.

Michael is a Libertarian.

But if Hill says he's Libertarian, that's good enough for me. Seems he would know.

Much better than bounty.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:15:25 PM   
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There's a Libertarian platform. People in agreement with it register as party members and are by definition "Libertarians."

The American Libertarian Party, and most Americans who identify as libertarian, are full of shit. They are barely libertarian, as they are only opposed to government actions that do not benefit them. When it benefits them, they are all for all government intervention.
Basically they are a bunch of gutless cunts who have appropriated the name of a political philosophy they do not actually espouse.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:17:24 PM   
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any chance youd be willing to link to a handful of your posts in which you've advocated positions consistent with libertarianism?



ffs.

Are you going to be whining about LINOs now?


WTF are you whiny pussyhat retards bitching about now? Somebody asked a question?

Oh you poor stupid imbeciles, there there

It will be okay, I promise

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:28:27 PM   
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There's a Libertarian platform. People in agreement with it register as party members and are by definition "Libertarians."

The American Libertarian Party, and most Americans who identify as libertarian, are full of shit. They are barely libertarian, as they are only opposed to government actions that do not benefit them. When it benefits them, they are all for all government intervention.
Basically they are a bunch of gutless cunts who have appropriated the name of a political philosophy they do not actually espouse.

Ah. So the entire Libertarian Party are LINOs.

Here's the thing. In the context of this discussion, Libertarian clearly is a political reference, not a philosophical one.

The philosophy of communism and the Communist Party, for another example, are nearly night and day.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:31:23 PM   
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Ah. So the entire Libertarian Party are LINOs.

No, they are lying gutless cunts.
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In the context of this discussion, Libertarian clearly is a political reference, not a philosophical one.

I said political philosophy, the two words together. Pay attention, I mean I know you are a Yank, but come on, you are supposed to be English speakers.


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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:32:01 PM   
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setting aside for a moment that "pro-choice" is not necessarily a hallmark of libertarianism, I



bullshit

2016 Libertarian party platform

https://www.lp.org/platform/
1.5 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.



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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 5:44:04 PM   
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Ah. So the entire Libertarian Party are LINOs.

No, they are lying gutless cunts.
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In the context of this discussion, Libertarian clearly is a political reference, not a philosophical one.

I said political philosophy, the two words together. Pay attention, I mean I know you are a Yank, but come on, you are supposed to be English speakers.


OK. You can join the other assholes on hide.

Spend the time you would have spent arguing looking up the difference between political philosophy and political party names.

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