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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 6:17:34 PM   
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Yes dear, whatever you say.

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Meanwhile, back at the topic:

We created him, and now we're rationalizing him. When will it stop?

We conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime. It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us. It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued. To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

I’ve been sympathetic to this impulse to denial, as one doesn’t ever want to believe that the government of the United States has been made dysfunctional at the highest levels, especially by the actions of one’s own party. Michael Gerson, a con­servative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, “The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

For a conservative, that’s an awfully bitter pill to swallow. So as I layered in my defense mechanisms, I even found myself saying things like, “If I took the time to respond to every presiden­tial tweet, there would be little time for anything else.” Given the volume and velocity of tweets from both the Trump campaign and then the White House, this was certainly true. But it was also a monumental dodge. It would be like Noah saying, “If I spent all my time obsessing about the coming flood, there would be little time for anything else.” At a certain point, if one is being honest, the flood becomes the thing that is most worthy of attention. At a certain point, it might be time to build an ark.

Under our Constitution, there simply are not that many people who are in a position to do something about an executive branch in chaos. As the first branch of government (Article I), the Congress was designed expressly to assert itself at just such moments. It is what we talk about when we talk about “checks and balances.” Too often, we observe the unfolding drama along with the rest of the country, passively, all but saying, “Someone should do something!” without seeming to realize that that someone is us. And so, that unnerving silence in the face of an erratic executive branch is an abdication, and those in positions of leadership bear particular responsibility.

There was a time when the leadership of the Congress from both parties felt an institutional loyalty that would frequently create bonds across party lines in defense of congressional prerogatives in a unified front against the White House, regardless of the president’s party. We do not have to go very far back to identify these exemplars—the Bob Doles and Howard Bakers and Richard Lugars of the Senate. Vigorous partisans, yes, but even more important, principled constitutional conservatives whose primary interest was in governing and making America truly great.

But then the period of collapse and dysfunction set in, amplified by the internet and our growing sense of alienation from each other, and we lost our way and began to rationalize away our principles in the process. But where does such capitulation take us? If by 2017 the conservative bargain was to go along for the very bumpy ride because with congressional hegemony and the White House we had the numbers to achieve some long-held policy goals—even as we put at risk our institutions and our values—then it was a very real question whether any such policy victories wouldn’t be Pyrrhic ones. If this was our Faustian bargain, then it was not worth it. If ultimately our principles were so malleable as to no longer be principles, then what was the point of political victories in the first place?

Meanwhile, the strange specter of an American president’s seeming affection for strongmen and authoritarians created such a cognitive dissonance among my generation of conservatives—who had come of age under existential threat from the Soviet Union—that it was almost impossible to believe. Even as our own government was documenting a con­certed attack against our democratic processes by an enemy foreign power, our own White House was rejecting the authority of its own intelligence agencies, disclaiming their findings as a Democratic ruse and a hoax. Conduct that would have had conservatives up in arms had it been exhibited by our political opponents now had us dumbstruck.

It was then that I was compelled back to Senator Goldwater’s book, to a chapter entitled “The Soviet Menace.” Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, this part of Goldwater’s critique had seemed particularly anachronistic. The lesson here is that nothing is gone forever, especially when it comes to the devouring ambition of despotic men. As Goldwater wrote in that chapter:

Our forebears knew that “keeping a Republic” meant, above all, keeping it safe from foreign transgressors; they knew that a people cannot live and work freely, and develop national institutions conducive to freedom, except in peace and with independence.

So, where should Republicans go from here? First, we shouldn’t hesitate to speak out if the president “plays to the base” in ways that damage the Republican Party’s ability to grow and speak to a larger audience. Second, Republicans need to take the long view when it comes to issues like free trade: Populist and protectionist policies might play well in the short term, but they handicap the country in the long term. Third, Republicans need to stand up for institutions and prerogatives, like the Senate filibuster, that have served us well for more than two centuries.

We have taken our “institutions conducive to freedom,” as Goldwater put it, for granted as we have engaged in one of the more reckless periods of politics in our history. In 2017, we seem to have lost our appreciation for just how hard won and vulnerable those institutions are.

Jeff Flake is a Republican senator from Arizona. This article has been excerpted from his new book, Conscience of a Conservative.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/31/my-party-is-in-denial-about-donald-trump-215442

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 8:50:22 PM   
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You really didn't need to repost it you know, we all read it once.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 11:49:06 PM   
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It's only news that establishment RINOs love their swamp, in the imaginary make-believe world that alt left trash has wholly manufactured out of the propaganda that their insanity thrives on

One has to be insane, to cherish the status quo in Washington, and only one person has substantively challenged the fat politician pigs gorging themselves at the taxpayer money trough

It wasn't Hillary, it wasn't Obama, nor was it any Senator from Arizona

But it's not Trump either.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/1/2017 11:55:41 PM   
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yes, he won by a gerrymander, inciting and lying to the feeble minded, nutsucker machinations in the congress, and a big assist from Russia.

I don't know about the rest but you can't 'gerrymander' a senate seat.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 12:02:58 AM   
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RINO


A RINO (Republican in Name Only) is an officeholder or candidate who is a member of the Republican Party, but holds views to the political left of most Republican voters, or simply does whatever the liberal media wants. The term "RINO" describes politicians who claim to be Republican but are in fact liberal or puppets of the liberal media, and therefore generally debase the winning conservative coalition base of the Republican Party. RINOs also tend to resort to cronyism to fill key government positions, and often are career politicians.

RINOs are often Republican only to the extent it serves their own interests, and will abandon conservative principles as soon as it is in their own interests to do so. RINOs often provide support for raising taxes, abortion as a right, gay rights and gun control. Some RINOs have connections with Planned Parenthood or corporations that support goals of population control; other RINOs pay lip service to pro-life values while in practice not advancing those values.

Double standards by RINOs are common: a birther comment by Romney during his campaign was supposedly a "nothing", but Todd Akin's pro-life comment would somehow "absolutely" cost RINOs control of the U.S. Senate![1]

RINOs, like Democrats, typically come from states in New England, the Mid-Atlantic; or states on the Left Coast. A less-used term is cafeteria conservative, for a person who picks and chooses which conservative principles to believe, as a person might choose foods in a cafeteria instead of ordering the full-course menu selected by the chef at most restaurants.[2] In contrast to RINO's and cafeteria conservatives, movement conservatives understand that since conservative philosophy is a coherent whole, it is untenable to discard part of it without discarding all of it.

A majority of the Young Republicans leadership are also RINOs and use the Twitter hashtag #RINOsUnite and #YRMafia.

The RINO targets of attack argue they follow middle of the road policies and are not liberals; they claim they get results, and insist that without them the Congress would be totally controlled by liberal Democrats and Republicans would rarely have any success. Conservatives respond that in the heyday of "Rockefeller liberalism" in the GOP the Democrats always controlled Congress, and the GOP only took power when Newt Gingrich launched a national conservative "Contract with America" in 1994, ending 40 years of Democratic control of the House. The notion that we need to elect Democrat-lite type of politicians is false. The election cycles of 2010 and 2012 proved that many RINO candidates are unelectable. RINO candidates wasted millions of dollars; Meg Whitman, Scott Brown, Linda McMahon, and many others could not connect with the people in liberal blue states.

In recent Republican primaries, voters have been rejecting establishment RINOs in favor of those with stronger conservative principles. Their commitment to self and not party is evident in their refusal to endorse the candidate that beats them. In some instances, they refuse the will of the voters and their party by running for office on an independent ticket. It is important to vote for someone who's more conservative on the issues rather than for a Republican because anyone can join a party and be they can be RINOs. In Presidential primaries, however, RINOs are often heavily favored. In 2008 and 2012, RINOs John McCain and Mitt Romney were nominated, respectively and RINOs such as Chris Christie are being considered for 2016.

The House of Representatives and the Senate have RINOs in Republican leadership: Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, respectively.

Former RINOs who have since left the Republican Party

Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson supports same-sex "marriage" and abortion (although he opposes abortion once the fetus becomes viable outside the mother's body). After switching to the Libertarian Party in 2012 to run for President, he openly admitted that he governed New Mexico for eight years as a RINO, even using the phrase "Republican in name only" on multiple occasions. The Libertarian Party is liberal on social issues (with the exception that they support gun rights) but are fiscally very conservative.

Former Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania supported ObamaCare and switched from the Republican Party to the Democrat Party to give the latter a 60-40 edge in the Senate and allow them to enact cloture on the Republican filibuster.
Former Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, who became an Independent in 2007. Turned Democrat in 2013.[3]
Former Senator Lowell Weicker of Connecticut, who left the party and formed his own local one in 1990, then became an Independent in 1995.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who became an Independent in 2007. As it is not possible to campaign as an Independent in New York State, Bloomberg runs on the line of the Independence Party of New York.
Former Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont, who left the Party and became a Democrat in 2001, giving control of the Senate to the Democrats.

Former Governor Charlie Crist of Florida, who became an independent in 2010 after it was clear he would lose his Senate bid. Crist joined the Democrat Party in 2012.
Former Representative John Anderson of Illinois, who became an Independent after losing his party's presidential primary in 1980.

Former Governor Buddy Roemer of Louisiana, who became an Independent after losing his party's presidential primary in 2012.

RINO McCain

A majority of conservatives distrust RINO John McCain even though many of his policies are that of a true conservative. Key RINO principles rejected by McCain include support for gay rights, support for abortion, and support for earmarks. He has positioned his career as a bipartisan moderate, reaching across the aisle whenever possible. This is also his downfall. The era of reaching across the aisle passed—when statist, socialist Democrats became Senators. His major political blunders mostly came during the 21st century political period. He was against both the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, and employed class warfare rhetoric in trying to stop the tax cuts from taking effect. His support for amnesty was the complete opposite of what conservatives wanted. He has always complained about enhanced interrogation techniques, calling them "torture". In non-election years, he likes to trash conservative positions and icons in order to get the media's and Democrats' approval. However, during the election he refused to go after Barack Hussein Obama's associations with Jeremiah Wright. He believes in the junk science known as global warming, and has supported cap-and-trade programs. Another Middle East war, without a goal, without full commitment to win, without Congressional approval- McCain supports the President. It didn't stop there and in July 2011, he called the Tea Party, the people that care about fiscal sanity in Washington, they are "hobbits".[4]

The sacrifices he has made serving this country cannot be overlooked. John McCain has earned war hero status but also the status as a D.C. zero.

http://www.conservapedia.com/RINO

What unmitigated bullshit !!

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 12:07:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

RINO


A RINO (Republican in Name Only) is an officeholder or candidate who is a member of the Republican Party, but holds views to the political left of most Republican voters, or simply does whatever the liberal media wants. The term "RINO" describes politicians who claim to be Republican but are in fact liberal or puppets of the liberal media, and therefore generally debase the winning conservative coalition base of the Republican Party. RINOs also tend to resort to cronyism to fill key government positions, and often are career politicians.

RINOs are often Republican only to the extent it serves their own interests, and will abandon conservative principles as soon as it is in their own interests to do so. RINOs often provide support for raising taxes, abortion as a right, gay rights and gun control. Some RINOs have connections with Planned Parenthood or corporations that support goals of population control; other RINOs pay lip service to pro-life values while in practice not advancing those values.

Double standards by RINOs are common: a birther comment by Romney during his campaign was supposedly a "nothing", but Todd Akin's pro-life comment would somehow "absolutely" cost RINOs control of the U.S. Senate![1]

RINOs, like Democrats, typically come from states in New England, the Mid-Atlantic; or states on the Left Coast. A less-used term is cafeteria conservative, for a person who picks and chooses which conservative principles to believe, as a person might choose foods in a cafeteria instead of ordering the full-course menu selected by the chef at most restaurants.[2] In contrast to RINO's and cafeteria conservatives, movement conservatives understand that since conservative philosophy is a coherent whole, it is untenable to discard part of it without discarding all of it.

A majority of the Young Republicans leadership are also RINOs and use the Twitter hashtag #RINOsUnite and #YRMafia.

The RINO targets of attack argue they follow middle of the road policies and are not liberals; they claim they get results, and insist that without them the Congress would be totally controlled by liberal Democrats and Republicans would rarely have any success. Conservatives respond that in the heyday of "Rockefeller liberalism" in the GOP the Democrats always controlled Congress, and the GOP only took power when Newt Gingrich launched a national conservative "Contract with America" in 1994, ending 40 years of Democratic control of the House. The notion that we need to elect Democrat-lite type of politicians is false. The election cycles of 2010 and 2012 proved that many RINO candidates are unelectable. RINO candidates wasted millions of dollars; Meg Whitman, Scott Brown, Linda McMahon, and many others could not connect with the people in liberal blue states.

In recent Republican primaries, voters have been rejecting establishment RINOs in favor of those with stronger conservative principles. Their commitment to self and not party is evident in their refusal to endorse the candidate that beats them. In some instances, they refuse the will of the voters and their party by running for office on an independent ticket. It is important to vote for someone who's more conservative on the issues rather than for a Republican because anyone can join a party and be they can be RINOs. In Presidential primaries, however, RINOs are often heavily favored. In 2008 and 2012, RINOs John McCain and Mitt Romney were nominated, respectively and RINOs such as Chris Christie are being considered for 2016.

The House of Representatives and the Senate have RINOs in Republican leadership: Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, respectively.

Former RINOs who have since left the Republican Party

Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson supports same-sex "marriage" and abortion (although he opposes abortion once the fetus becomes viable outside the mother's body). After switching to the Libertarian Party in 2012 to run for President, he openly admitted that he governed New Mexico for eight years as a RINO, even using the phrase "Republican in name only" on multiple occasions. The Libertarian Party is liberal on social issues (with the exception that they support gun rights) but are fiscally very conservative.

Former Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania supported ObamaCare and switched from the Republican Party to the Democrat Party to give the latter a 60-40 edge in the Senate and allow them to enact cloture on the Republican filibuster.
Former Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, who became an Independent in 2007. Turned Democrat in 2013.[3]
Former Senator Lowell Weicker of Connecticut, who left the party and formed his own local one in 1990, then became an Independent in 1995.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who became an Independent in 2007. As it is not possible to campaign as an Independent in New York State, Bloomberg runs on the line of the Independence Party of New York.
Former Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont, who left the Party and became a Democrat in 2001, giving control of the Senate to the Democrats.

Former Governor Charlie Crist of Florida, who became an independent in 2010 after it was clear he would lose his Senate bid. Crist joined the Democrat Party in 2012.
Former Representative John Anderson of Illinois, who became an Independent after losing his party's presidential primary in 1980.

Former Governor Buddy Roemer of Louisiana, who became an Independent after losing his party's presidential primary in 2012.

RINO McCain

A majority of conservatives distrust RINO John McCain even though many of his policies are that of a true conservative. Key RINO principles rejected by McCain include support for gay rights, support for abortion, and support for earmarks. He has positioned his career as a bipartisan moderate, reaching across the aisle whenever possible. This is also his downfall. The era of reaching across the aisle passed—when statist, socialist Democrats became Senators. His major political blunders mostly came during the 21st century political period. He was against both the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, and employed class warfare rhetoric in trying to stop the tax cuts from taking effect. His support for amnesty was the complete opposite of what conservatives wanted. He has always complained about enhanced interrogation techniques, calling them "torture". In non-election years, he likes to trash conservative positions and icons in order to get the media's and Democrats' approval. However, during the election he refused to go after Barack Hussein Obama's associations with Jeremiah Wright. He believes in the junk science known as global warming, and has supported cap-and-trade programs. Another Middle East war, without a goal, without full commitment to win, without Congressional approval- McCain supports the President. It didn't stop there and in July 2011, he called the Tea Party, the people that care about fiscal sanity in Washington, they are "hobbits".[4]

The sacrifices he has made serving this country cannot be overlooked. John McCain has earned war hero status but also the status as a D.C. zero.

http://www.conservapedia.com/RINO

What unmitigated bullshit !!

What you expect from "Conservapedia"?
that's the same dipshit website that actually shows a picture of the Soul entering a newly fertilized egg.
Some people eat that shit up.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 12:18:13 AM   
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There's a Libertarian platform. People in agreement with it register as party members and are by definition "Libertarians."

The American Libertarian Party, and most Americans who identify as libertarian, are full of shit. They are barely libertarian, as they are only opposed to government actions that do not benefit them. When it benefits them, they are all for all government intervention.
Basically they are a bunch of gutless cunts who have appropriated the name of a political philosophy they do not actually espouse.

You mean a libertarian are those guys who meet every Sunday morning down at the Old Saw Pub, enjoying their steak & eggs with a stout Bloody Mary or 3, comparing subsidy checks, while bitching about $6/hr. fruit pickers and welfare cheats ?

Not very 'dizzy' at all TDC.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 4:07:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

RINO


A RINO (Republican in Name Only) is an officeholder or candidate who is a member of the Republican Party, but holds views to the political left of most Republican voters, or simply does whatever the liberal media wants. ... blah! blah! blah!

http://www.conservapedia.com/RINO

What unmitigated bullshit !!

Indeed. Not only do this lot deny science, they are actually engaged in a project to invent a universal set of "alternative facts'. They have set up Fox media to broadcast a false version of reality that they insist is "fair and balanced". Perhaps Genghiz Khan might agree. And now we have this ridiculous collection of gossip, fairy takes, myths, crazy beliefs and political scuttlebutt masquerading as an 'encyclopedia'. A kind of self help manual for political delusionals that aims to reinforce and strengthen the delusion rather than replacing it with rational beliefs.

Its an EINO - Encyclopedia in Name Only. Could it be the world's first (and only) fact free 'encyclopedia'?

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 7:05:06 AM   
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Conservapedia also says:

Dinosaurs were created on day six of creation approximately 6,000 years ago, along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus debunking the Theory of Evolution and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age and creation of the earth.

Creation science posits that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably including in the Garden of Eden) eating only plants; that pairs of each dinosaur kind were taken onto Noah's Ark during the Great Flood and were preserved from drowning; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood; and that possibly some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.


http://www.conservapedia.com/Dinosaur

And . . .

Dragons are reptillian or snake-like creatures that share many characteristics with dinosaurs and may well be the same creatures. The World Book Encyclopedia declares that: "The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth.". Dragons are usually evil and associated with Satan, however, in the pagan belief systems of Asia, dragons tend to be regarded as divine creatures. Some creation scientists have postulated that the differing nature of dragons in the west and east may be because after the Great Flood, predatory, carnivorous dinosaurs tended to migrate westward, whereas large, plant-eating dinosaurs tended to migrate east from Mt. Ararat. The folk memories of sea serpents such as the Loch Ness monster, Ogopogo, Gaasyendietha and Argont are likely inherited stories of encounters with dinosaurs. Some creation scientists have suggested that dragons, as dinosuars, died out around the end of the ice age. However, that can not account for later encounters with dragons. Nevertheless, dragons are now either extinct or extremely rare.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Dragons

Hard to believe this is the modern world. But clearly medieval thinking abounds.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 7:22:05 AM   
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conservapedia again? sheesh talk about scraping the barrel
Anything to detract from the state of the Repubs


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Conservapedia also says:

Dinosaurs were created on day six of creation approximately 6,000 years ago, along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus debunking the Theory of Evolution and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age and creation of the earth.

Creation science posits that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably including in the Garden of Eden) eating only plants; that pairs of each dinosaur kind were taken onto Noah's Ark during the Great Flood and were preserved from drowning; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood; and that possibly some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.


http://www.conservapedia.com/Dinosaur

And . . .

Dragons are reptillian or snake-like creatures that share many characteristics with dinosaurs and may well be the same creatures. The World Book Encyclopedia declares that: "The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth.". Dragons are usually evil and associated with Satan, however, in the pagan belief systems of Asia, dragons tend to be regarded as divine creatures. Some creation scientists have postulated that the differing nature of dragons in the west and east may be because after the Great Flood, predatory, carnivorous dinosaurs tended to migrate westward, whereas large, plant-eating dinosaurs tended to migrate east from Mt. Ararat. The folk memories of sea serpents such as the Loch Ness monster, Ogopogo, Gaasyendietha and Argont are likely inherited stories of encounters with dinosaurs. Some creation scientists have suggested that dragons, as dinosuars, died out around the end of the ice age. However, that can not account for later encounters with dragons. Nevertheless, dragons are now either extinct or extremely rare.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Dragons

Hard to believe this is the modern world. But clearly medieval thinking abounds.

Quite: these days we know that lake monsters and sea serpents are living fossil zeuglodons rather than living fossil dinosaurs. Of course, those who deny the whole evolution thing can't admit that, because zeuglodons are one of those transitory species that they insist don't exist.


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The "we believe X so this debunks Y" is just mind-boggling.


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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 9:42:30 AM   
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conservapedia again? sheesh talk about scraping the barrel
Anything to detract from the state of the Repubs



When the question is the definition of a conservative term, conservapedia is a far better source than ManiacalMysery or any other socialist pile of maggot infested dog shit



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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 9:42:44 AM   
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Then there's this spin:

Trump-Russia hoax

The Trump-Russia hoax was a mainstream media fake news story that originated in the waning days of the Obama administration among possible criminal elements in the US intelligence community to slander the reputation of president-elect Donald Trump. Many high and mid-level Obama appointees, including department heads, IC agency chiefs, White House staff, and possibly Barack Obama himself, were involved. Leading news organizations such as CNN, the New York Times and the Washington Post disseminated the myth out of animous for Trump, Trump supporters, and the conservative movement. The level of vitriol and hate speech among prominent liberals and thier supporters encouraged acts of violence by leftists, and even led to assassination attempts against elected government officials.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 9:48:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Then there's this spin:

Trump-Russia hoax

The Trump-Russia hoax was a mainstream media fake news story that originated in the waning days of the Obama administration among possible criminal elements in the US intelligence community to slander the reputation of president-elect Donald Trump. Many high and mid-level Obama appointees, including department heads, IC agency chiefs, White House staff, and possibly Barack Obama himself, were involved. Leading news organizations such as CNN, the New York Times and the Washington Post disseminated the myth out of animous for Trump, Trump supporters, and the conservative movement. The level of vitriol and hate speech among prominent liberals and thier supporters encouraged acts of violence by leftists, and even led to assassination attempts against elected government officials.


Then there's this:

Huckabee Sanders Hits Press for Not Covering New Russia Dossier Testimony

At the end of the White House press briefing, Sanders took a few moments to draw the media's attention to a story that suggested Russia may have been tied to a dossier full of salacious, unfounded claims about Trump.

"You guys love to talk about Russia, and there's been nonstop coverage," she said. "Then the one day that there might have been a question on Russia, there wasn't."

"Often, we have a lot of media with Russia first, but today, there was public testimony that further discredited the phony dossier that's been the source of so much of the fake news and conspiracy theories, and we learned that the firm that produced it was also also being paid by the Russians," she added.

Sanders was referring to testimony by Bill Browder, the CEO and co-founder of Hermitage Capital, before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday. Browder testified about the firm Fusion GPS, which funded the collection of information in a dossier of harmful claims about Trump during the 2016 election. According to Browder, Fusion GPS also has ties to Russia.

"This is yet the latest piece of evidence that vindicates what the president has said, that this is a witch hunt and a hoax," Sanders said. "And it's a shame that the president and the country have had to go through this charade continually and hopefully this will help us move forward in that process."

http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-hits-press-dossier/

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 10:06:50 AM   
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"Huckabee Sanders" about sums up the credibility worthiness of that piece.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 10:10:46 AM   
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Do you think he appointed Kelly as Chief of Staff and gave him authority over all staff because he wanted to, or because he had to.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 10:12:24 AM   
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"Huckabee Sanders" about sums up the credibility worthiness of that piece.


Yeah yeah yeah

At least one of you freaks are attacking her by claiming she is transgendered

All you lowlifes ever have are your ad hominems, that kind of thing.

SSDD.

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RE: Sen. Jeff Flake (R., AZ): My Party is in Denial ab... - 8/2/2017 10:18:32 AM   
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Do you think he appointed Kelly as Chief of Staff and gave him authority over all staff because he wanted to, or because he had to.

To appoint a Chief of Staff and NOT do that is stupid.

If I were a CEO and hired someone to run things, I wouldn't interfere with his operation. I'd hold him accountable, but I hired him to run it.

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