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WickedsDesire -> Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 4:28:55 AM)

Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row

The Statue of Liberty was the focus of a monumental exchange between a White House adviser and a reporter after Donald Trump backed an immigration policy favouring the better-educated.

"The Statue of Liberty says, 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free'," CNN's Jim Acosta told Stephen Miller.

"It doesn't say anything about speaking English," Mr Acosta added.
Mr Miller said the poem on the iconic American statue was "added later".

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WhoreMods -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 4:50:56 AM)

They could start by sending the statue herself back to France...




WickedsDesire -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 5:22:00 AM)

That's just a fancy way of saying deport her, best you don't put those ideas into their heads. I was trying to remember if there were two statues, and cant quite seem to remember why, or when, they gave America the statue in the first place.

The Statue of Liberty is a figure of a robed woman representing Libertas, a Roman goddess. She holds a torch above her head, and in her left arm carries a tabula ansata inscribed in Roman numerals with "JULY IV MDCCLXXVI" (July 4, 1776), the date of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. hehehe those cheeky frogs...get it up you Britain.




WhoreMods -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 6:10:48 AM)

That was my point.
I think there was some serious talk about demolishing the old girl when Dubya was throwing a tantrum back in 2003 over the French telling him to fuck off and fight his own war, wasn't there?




kdsub -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:12:47 AM)

I don't think you have to be better educated...but you need to be able to communicate in English, be able to support yourself, and have a skill to contribute. I see nothing wrong with these requirements...do you?

Remember these requirements only give applicants a favored status ...They don't prohibit those that don't match entry unless all available immigration slots are filled... or at least that is the way I understand it... Could be wrong though.

Butch




Musicmystery -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:15:01 AM)

In God we Trust was added later too -- in the 20th century.

Should we get rid of it too?




HaveRopeWillBind -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:21:57 AM)

When the statue was being built in France a smaller version was built first. Not sure whatever became of that.
There is a smaller scale version of the statue in the middle of the Susquehanna River, North of Harrisburg, PA, don't know if that is the original from which the New York Harbor version was scaled up, or if it's just a later replica.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:27:17 AM)

I know (and I was laughing) whoremods - Anyway I am sure they helped the Americans in a battle or two or with tea or something - not really my area of expertise of waffle. One statue though - why did I think there were two, or is that more a purloin obelisks’ from the dessert lands and repatriate them to civilisations.

KDsub many countries already do, well some do to an extent...and by fuk we cant get any nurses now....well from the EU as an example.
Skill shortages and an ageing population are the enemy of UK USA etc – the Germans aint daft. Come on you never thought there 1 million a year through? - probably arm up in the next decade or two, too ;))

I was reading a story about some sand dweller yesterday - within 4 years of coming to the UK (his parents sent him here alone now was that from Afghanistan or somewhere) he had his Doctors degree from the UK (seems a bit fast that) within 4 years and from Cambridge fook.

He now helps people for free via the ether and works weekends in AE to fund that work.

I can find the story if you want – yes I know what you are saying in a way as you will know what I am saying :) Thing is I fuking loathe discrimination in any format that is hard coded into me.




kdsub -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:30:05 AM)

There have been many changes in the immigration policies over the years and this one makes more sense than most... Have a look back and see some changes made under Democratic ruled congresses...I think Trump is incompetent but I won't be a hypocrite and disagree with every policy he comes up with just because he proposed it.

Butch




kdsub -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:35:58 AM)

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Skill shortages and an ageing population are the enemy of UK USA


My friend I just don't go along with the above statement... we have plenty of babies born in this country to supply most of our needs in the future..It seems to me all through history the downfall of many prosperous civilizations has been the hiring of foreign workers to perform everyday tasks... they stagnate.

Butch




WickedsDesire -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:41:25 AM)

No you dont ;) Nor do we. Actually who will pick our fruit - havent you lot already cut a deal for the spic fruit pickers?

that aside we all caught this peach today

Stephen Miller vs. Jim Acosta sent the White House news briefing completely off the rails




kdsub -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 8:51:49 AM)

The circus surrounding this proposed legislation is ...as usual...because of Trump's incompetence...But the substance can be easily separated from the right wing political rhetoric. Otherwise this was not Trump's idea but he goes for it because he can play it for more political support in his base... But that in my opinion does not make it a bad immigration policy.

Butch




WickedsDesire -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 9:01:08 AM)

Ive not really looked at that: is the essence saying they will cut immigration from 1 000 000 down to 500 000 - anyone got a link and I will read and is there a vote or something?




kdsub -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 9:10:42 AM)

Just do a search for Trump's new immigration policy... and while you are at it search for the history of US immigration policy... it is an eye opener.

Butch




BoscoX -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 10:32:45 AM)


FR

It isn't the statue of immigration.

Never was.




Musicmystery -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 12:56:31 PM)

So they going to deport the statue of liberty now?




Termyn8or -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 2:19:52 PM)

FR

Things change. The Constitution has been reinterpreted. The second amendment is clear but now you need a permit. You have the right to free travel but now you need a driver's license, in fact in some places you meed a license for a bicycle.

So maybe it is time to change the inscription on the statue. We got poor, huddled masses and all that. We need innovators. Actually many immigrants are self sufficient. If they don't have much on the way of skill they open a convenience store. They pay their taxes, as much as anyone else anyway. Almost everyone who has a chance to cheat does.

The ones who automatically get welfare and housing and whatever are usually refugees, and the US government made alot of them refugees in the first place. The problem is they want to kill us.

We have to stop immigration. There are not enough jobs for us, let alone a bunch of people from other countries.

The inscription on the statue of liberty was written in a time when we had alot of wide open spaces. What was the population then ? Well it is 325 million now and that is enough. People in other countries look at our population density and think we should be taking people in, but what they do not realize is that you just can't live in some places. Some of it is desert. Some of it you are 150 miles from the nearest grocery store, not to mention 150 miles from the nearest job.

What other country just lets you come and move there ?

T^T




Musicmystery -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 2:21:35 PM)

This country doesn't either.

They have to follow immigration law, just like everywhere else.





thompsonx -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 2:34:17 PM)


ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

In God we Trust was added later too -- in the 20th century.

In god we trust was added to the money in the 19th century. One nation under god was added to the pledge of allegiance
in the 20 century.


Should we get rid of it too?


Absolutely.




tamaka -> RE: Statue of Liberty caught in White House immigration row (8/3/2017 2:35:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

In God we Trust was added later too -- in the 20th century.

In god we trust was added to the money in the 19th century. One nation under god was added to the pledge of allegiance
in the 20 century.


Should we get rid of it too?


Absolutely.



Yes we really should get rid of it. The government has no right to make religious statements for its people.




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