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Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 11:39:53 AM   
Greta75


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I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.
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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 11:41:53 AM   
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Neither did Bush, who had 8 years before Obama

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 11:43:19 AM   
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The thing is NK would not pull this shit with Obama, and now they will with Il Douchovitch knowing that he is a pantywaisted coward.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 11:44:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.


Actually Carter negotiated the deal, without any approval I might add, and Clinton accepted it even though it was negotiated extra legally.
Bush did practically nothing and Obama did even less. Trump is the first one to even see the threat.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 11:48:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.


Actually Carter negotiated the deal, without any approval I might add, and Clinton accepted it even though it was negotiated extra legally.
Bush did practically nothing and Obama did even less. Trump is the first one to even see the threat.

What did Reagan and George I do, if Carter negotiated the deal that's at fault?
You do know that there was twelve years of republican rule between Carter and Clinton, right?

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 11:48:11 AM   
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quote:

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I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.


I hear he started the Korean War too, and is the reason communists settled in N. Korea in the first place. Oh, and he sold our children as sex slaves to the N. Korean military so he could buy a yacht.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:13:29 PM   
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North Korea, socialism

South Korea, capitalism

(Marx's fault)

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:16:57 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.


I hear he started the Korean War too, and is the reason communists settled in N. Korea in the first place. Oh, and he sold our children as sex slaves to the N. Korean military so he could buy a yacht.


I've heard that but it kinda dovetails into the well known 'fact' that every problem in western civilization...is Carter's fault. Well seems the rightists have their new replacement bullshit cause for ALL of our problems...Obama.

I mean one would have thought that after the Reagan and Bush's 20 years, that hell, NK would be an ally by now and a whole new what 20 million slave laborers for the capitalist ? Un just doesn't grasp capitalism like the 'communist' (fascist) but really the capitalist role model...Chinese does.

You have any pics of that yacht. I can't find any ?



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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:22:46 PM   
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Not to mention Bush's "Axis of Evil" of Iran, Iraq, and N. Korea.

He only invaded one of them!

Why?

Iran and N. Korea are not Iraq. You don't just go blithely marching in.

Plus Iran is a Russian ally, N. Korea is a Chinese ally. Those aren't tiny countries to mess with either.

So why didn't Bush just solve the problem? Same reason Obama (Bush Lite) didn't.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:23:38 PM   
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~FRing it~

Wrong. North Korea was nuclear long before Obama was ever sworn in and the Kim family have been batshit insane since they came into power. It was only a matter of time for them to develop the vehicle to do it

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:27:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.


I hear he started the Korean War too, and is the reason communists settled in N. Korea in the first place. Oh, and he sold our children as sex slaves to the N. Korean military so he could buy a yacht.


I've heard that but it kinda dovetails into the well known 'fact' that every problem in western civilization...is Carter's fault. Well seems the rightists have their new replacement bullshit cause for ALL of our problems...Obama.

I mean one would have thought that after the Reagan and Bush's 20 years, that hell, NK would be an ally by now and a whole new what 20 million slave laborers for the capitalist ? Un just doesn't grasp capitalism like the 'communist' (fascist) but really the capitalist role model...Chinese does.

You have any pics of that yacht. I can't find any ?



I'm finding the spectacle of Carter getting blamed for stuff again refreshing: it was pretty much all we heard from the American news media over here for the eight years a third rate actor with alzheimers spent trashing your country. Hearing all of that shit again makes me feel young, like my age has been wound back thirty five years to the '80s...

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:29:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


North Korea, socialism

South Korea, capitalism

(Marx's fault)

N. Korea is regarded as an unreformed, isolated, tightly controlled, dictatorial command economy. It's a military economy and there is nothing 'social' about it.


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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:46:37 PM   
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So let me get this straight . . .

Trump, instead of solving the problem, is blaming someone else?

How . . . typically Trump.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 12:59:59 PM   
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Well, if we want to look back, then as much as I liked Ike, it was Eisenhower's fault for preventing MacArthur from obliterating NK and the ChiComms that have supported the Kim regimes ever since. So let's all gang up on Ike for having allowed the NKs to develop nukes and ICBMs.
In the end it really doesn't matter who is responsible. The reality is that right this minute we are faced with a mad dictator with intercontinental nuclear capability. That's the real issue, not whose fault it might be for how that happened. Stop arguing politics and get busy building your bomb shelters.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 1:03:13 PM   
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Hopefully though the mad dictator with nuclear capability will be reigned in by congress in this matter.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 1:14:35 PM   
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Well, if we want to look back, then as much as I liked Ike, it was Eisenhower's fault for preventing MacArthur from obliterating NK and the ChiComms that have supported the Kim regimes ever since. So let's all gang up on Ike for having allowed the NKs to develop nukes and ICBMs.
In the end it really doesn't matter who is responsible. The reality is that right this minute we are faced with a mad dictator with intercontinental nuclear capability. That's the real issue, not whose fault it might be for how that happened. Stop arguing politics and get busy building your bomb shelters.

Don't forget that Bush made clear that we only listen to countries without nukes. We invade the others.

And that China is a N. Korea ally.

Look, I get it. It's actually what I said. The OP chooses to blame Obama, along with Trump.

Trump's in the White House. That's not fortunate in this instance. But it leaves the problem to him, and/or Congress.

Instead -- they're figuring out who to blame.

That's the trouble with our leaders today -- we don't have any.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 1:24:58 PM   
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Neither did Bush, who had 8 years before Obama

If you had actually read my post you would have noticed that I stated that Bush did nothing, but you are apparently can't
comprehend that someone would criticize people of both parties.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 1:25:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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North Korea, socialism

South Korea, capitalism

(Marx's fault)

N. Korea is regarded as an unreformed, isolated, tightly controlled, dictatorial command economy. It's a military economy and there is nothing 'social' about it.



Mind you, it's a 'democracy', cf the D in DPRK. Everybody just loves that word and claims at his own, no matter what his godawful regime, eh?


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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 1:27:45 PM   
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Trump is the first one to even see the threat.

What utter bullshit.

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RE: Technically North Korea is Obama's Fault - 8/10/2017 1:31:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I say this because, he got 8 years to prevent North Korea from developing any credible weapons, but he did nothing effective.

Trump only came into office and within 6 months, suddenly, North Korea finally became successful in their missles.

Now if there is war. Poor neighbouring countries.


Actually Carter negotiated the deal, without any approval I might add, and Clinton accepted it even though it was negotiated extra legally.
Bush did practically nothing and Obama did even less. Trump is the first one to even see the threat.

What did Reagan and George I do, if Carter negotiated the deal that's at fault?
You do know that there was twelve years of republican rule between Carter and Clinton, right?

The reason it was illegal was that former President Carter negotiated the agreement as a unsanctioned private citizen IN THE 90's IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TILL THE 90S.
You are aware that neither Bush I or Reagan was in office by that time.

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